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NCsoft bans EU countries from AION EU. UPDATED.

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  • Haggis13Haggis13 RosmalenPosts: 117Member

    That sounds like an exaggeration. I agree NCSoft should not have grouped Lithuanians on the Russian servers, but I find it hard to believe that they would force an IP ban AND actively block accounts that work around it; it would only reduce their income.

  • abyss610abyss610 northern cambria, PAPosts: 1,131Member
    Originally posted by adrianemery


    If NC doesn't region lock it, I see much sales from Amazon .co.uk or .de as they ship all over europe.
    If NC do region lock it the I see a lot of proxy services being used as well.



     

    they eventually region locked teh korean, the chinese isn't YET but prolly will after NA get thiers i bet

  • Chimp85Chimp85 GuernseyPosts: 15Member

    Glad I am not from Lithuania then, any idea when you can expect to get the game ?

  • RaztorRaztor rfsfPosts: 670Member

     Since Lithuania only gained entry to the EU in 2004, unfortunate problems like these still arise as they are still viewed by some as a sattelite state of the USSR. Hopefully as time goes on, these problems will get smaller, but I guess it takes time. 

  • PapaB34RPapaB34R StockholmPosts: 300Member
    Originally posted by Haggis13


    That sounds like an exaggeration. I agree NCSoft should not have grouped Lithuanians on the Russian servers, but I find it hard to believe that they would force an IP ban AND actively block accounts that work around it; it would only reduce their income.



    howbout reading up instead of believing? IP block will be in effect.

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  • MoretrinketsMoretrinkets Baltimore, MDPosts: 730Member
    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    Lithuanian players cant play AION in the EU servers, when lithuania actually is center of europe.
    According NCsoft..... lithuania belongs to Russian Region.... witch is not. Young lithuanians dont even speak in russian... and we gonna get only AION RU...... witch is not english version of the game....
    A lot of ppl was waiting here for AION, and now its totaly disappointment.

     

    The game should have the option for different languages. At least the option to select between russian and english. It doesn't make any sense if the game is in russian language only.  Now, about forcing lithuanians to play in russian servers, I would not take that as discrimination. Perhaps there are some logistics and business issues that made AION devs to make that decision. I think this was a business decision issue, and not discrimination.

  • inkvizitorisinkvizitoris vilniusPosts: 34Member

    so.... it's official

    NCsoft admit, they won't release Aion in Lithuania becouse of "licensing issues".

    omg. is it so hard to let europeans to play european game? Its not gonna work that way, NCsoft....

  • inkvizitorisinkvizitoris vilniusPosts: 34Member

    UPDATE:

    these countries experiencing the same issue:

    - All baltic states ( Estonia, Lithuania and letland )

    - Turkey

    - Croatia

  • neoterrarneoterrar Cedar Rapids, IAPosts: 512Member

    Other games have the same issues.

    It's simply that they don't have the license to publish in certain countries.

     

  • HrothmundHrothmund HelsinkiPosts: 1,061Member

    I feel for you, the same fate has met Finland many of times and it just sucks.

  • CyberWizCyberWiz AntwerpPosts: 950Member Uncommon

    Omg what a bunch of noobs at Aion, this is enough for me to boycot Aion. They are in the EU for god sake, it is like not allowing Californian players to play on US servers !

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  • Ra9narokRa9narok SarajevoPosts: 20Member
    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    Lithuanian players cant play AION in the EU servers, when lithuania actually is center of europe.
    According NCsoft..... lithuania belongs to Russian Region.... witch is not. Young lithuanians dont even speak in russian... and we gonna get only AION RU...... witch is not english version of the game....
    A lot of ppl was waiting here for AION, and now its totaly disappointment.
    UPDATE:


    these countries experiencing the same issue:
    - All baltic states ( Estonia, Lithuania and letland )

    - Turkey

    - Croatia




     

    Well since i'm belonging to the possible customers from the Baltic region (near Croatia) this anouncement made my decission easier NOT to buy AION at all. I won't take it as it is that i can't play this game with other European community members since i can speak English AND German AND my mother language. Luckily i had the opportunity to play the Chinese beta and i must say that I wasn't THAT impressed with the game while i WAS interested in the game before the test.

    I must agree that the graphic is increddible well done BUT graphic isn't all in a game. The quests don't offer anything new to the players and it won't change in the future. I expect that AION will get a huge playerbase because IT IS a PvP centric game after all, and i know that the Balaur will be a playable third faction in the near future while the game expands and the story goes on. That's obvious to me.

    I will play other F2P games in the mean time and wait for Final Fantasy XIV Online from which i'm expecting MUCH more than AION has to offer.

    I wish the AION community all the best. Don't let the publisher throw you sand in the eyes and don't let AION become only another "WoW clone". I hope you'll succeede but you'll have a hard time there because Asian pusblishers aren't well known for accepting criticism (Korean forum flames, Komunism anyone?!)

    Live long, and play well!! :P

  • technostechnos SeoulPosts: 21Member
    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    Lithuanian players cant play AION in the EU servers, when lithuania actually is center of europe.
    According NCsoft..... lithuania belongs to Russian Region.... witch is not. Young lithuanians dont even speak in russian... and we gonna get only AION RU...... witch is not english version of the game....
    A lot of ppl was waiting here for AION, and now its totaly disappointment.
    UPDATE:


    these countries experiencing the same issue:
    - All baltic states ( Estonia, Lithuania and letland )

    - Turkey

    - Croatia


     

    Well first, claim the politicians of ur country working in the governement  to join in EURO. Then I am surely u can play on EU Server. -_- otherwise there is no choice since it is the issue of general liscensing which should be followed by the international laws, IF ncsoft would agree with u and open the EU server for ur country, then, NCsoft would get fucked for the breaking law?

  • CyberWizCyberWiz AntwerpPosts: 950Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by technos

    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    Lithuanian players cant play AION in the EU servers, when lithuania actually is center of europe.
    According NCsoft..... lithuania belongs to Russian Region.... witch is not. Young lithuanians dont even speak in russian... and we gonna get only AION RU...... witch is not english version of the game....
    A lot of ppl was waiting here for AION, and now its totaly disappointment.
    UPDATE:


    these countries experiencing the same issue:
    - All baltic states ( Estonia, Lithuania and letland )

    - Turkey

    - Croatia


     

    Well first, claim the politicians of ur country working in the governement  to join in EURO. Then I am surely u can play on EU Server. -_- otherwise there is no choice since it is the issue of general liscensing which should be followed by the international laws, IF ncsoft would agree with u and open the EU server for ur country, then, NCsoft would get fucked for the breaking law?



     

    Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are members of the EU, so I am not sure what are you talking about.

    If NCSoft made agreements that Russia should control the Baltic states, then that is NCSoft's choice, and therefore they are pretty stupid.

     

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  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAPosts: 5,211Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    so.... it's official

    NCsoft admit, they won't release Aion in Lithuania becouse of "licensing issues".
    omg. is it so hard to let europeans to play european game? Its not gonna work that way, NCsoft....



     

    This is why many companies refuse to do business in Europe. Wasn't the EU supposed to fix all this nonsense?

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  • CammyCammy Calgary, ABPosts: 864Member
    Originally posted by CyberWiz

    Originally posted by technos

    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    Lithuanian players cant play AION in the EU servers, when lithuania actually is center of europe.
    According NCsoft..... lithuania belongs to Russian Region.... witch is not. Young lithuanians dont even speak in russian... and we gonna get only AION RU...... witch is not english version of the game....
    A lot of ppl was waiting here for AION, and now its totaly disappointment.
    UPDATE:


    these countries experiencing the same issue:
    - All baltic states ( Estonia, Lithuania and letland )

    - Turkey

    - Croatia


     

    Well first, claim the politicians of ur country working in the governement  to join in EURO. Then I am surely u can play on EU Server. -_- otherwise there is no choice since it is the issue of general liscensing which should be followed by the international laws, IF ncsoft would agree with u and open the EU server for ur country, then, NCsoft would get fucked for the breaking law?



     

    Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are members of the EU, so I am not sure what are you talking about.

    If NCSoft made agreements that Russia should control the Baltic states, then that is NCSoft's choice, and therefore they are pretty stupid.

     

     

    Mmm but not all EU countries (believe it or not) have the same rules.

     

    Some countries within the EU still have different laws compared to that of another EU country.

     

    Unfortnately I cannot speak of NCSoft/Gaming laws... but I know this is very true generally... 

  • inkvizitorisinkvizitoris vilniusPosts: 34Member
    Originally posted by Cammy

    Originally posted by CyberWiz

    Originally posted by technos

    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    Lithuanian players cant play AION in the EU servers, when lithuania actually is center of europe.
    According NCsoft..... lithuania belongs to Russian Region.... witch is not. Young lithuanians dont even speak in russian... and we gonna get only AION RU...... witch is not english version of the game....
    A lot of ppl was waiting here for AION, and now its totaly disappointment.
    UPDATE:


    these countries experiencing the same issue:
    - All baltic states ( Estonia, Lithuania and letland )

    - Turkey

    - Croatia


     

    Well first, claim the politicians of ur country working in the governement  to join in EURO. Then I am surely u can play on EU Server. -_- otherwise there is no choice since it is the issue of general liscensing which should be followed by the international laws, IF ncsoft would agree with u and open the EU server for ur country, then, NCsoft would get fucked for the breaking law?



     

    Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are members of the EU, so I am not sure what are you talking about.

    If NCSoft made agreements that Russia should control the Baltic states, then that is NCSoft's choice, and therefore they are pretty stupid.

     

     

    Mmm but not all EU countries (believe it or not) have the same rules.

     

    Some countries within the EU still have different laws compared to that of another EU country.

     

    Unfortnately I cannot speak of NCSoft/Gaming laws... but I know this is very true generally... 



     

    Lithuania got same laws and rules as all EU coutries....

  • CyberWizCyberWiz AntwerpPosts: 950Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    so.... it's official

    NCsoft admit, they won't release Aion in Lithuania becouse of "licensing issues".
    omg. is it so hard to let europeans to play european game? Its not gonna work that way, NCsoft....



     

    This is why many companies refuse to do business in Europe. Wasn't the EU supposed to fix all this nonsense?



     

    Don't blame the EU for this if NCsoft sells the license to the Russians ...

     

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  • CyberWizCyberWiz AntwerpPosts: 950Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Cammy

    Originally posted by CyberWiz

    Originally posted by technos

    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    Lithuanian players cant play AION in the EU servers, when lithuania actually is center of europe.
    According NCsoft..... lithuania belongs to Russian Region.... witch is not. Young lithuanians dont even speak in russian... and we gonna get only AION RU...... witch is not english version of the game....
    A lot of ppl was waiting here for AION, and now its totaly disappointment.
    UPDATE:


    these countries experiencing the same issue:
    - All baltic states ( Estonia, Lithuania and letland )

    - Turkey

    - Croatia


     

    Well first, claim the politicians of ur country working in the governement  to join in EURO. Then I am surely u can play on EU Server. -_- otherwise there is no choice since it is the issue of general liscensing which should be followed by the international laws, IF ncsoft would agree with u and open the EU server for ur country, then, NCsoft would get fucked for the breaking law?



     

    Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are members of the EU, so I am not sure what are you talking about.

    If NCSoft made agreements that Russia should control the Baltic states, then that is NCSoft's choice, and therefore they are pretty stupid.

     

     

    Mmm but not all EU countries (believe it or not) have the same rules.

     

    Some countries within the EU still have different laws compared to that of another EU country.

     

    Unfortnately I cannot speak of NCSoft/Gaming laws... but I know this is very true generally... 



     

    EU law overrules local law.

    EU countries do have different local laws, and as long as they do not conlict with EU law, that is fine.

    What does this have to do with EU law and their countries really? If NCSoft sells the license to the Russians it is NCSoft that is at fault here.

    EU law may regulate this someway, and if so, then NCSoft may be forced to change certain agreements.

    Edit :

    I did a quick check, and from what I can tell, companies can currently still make regional license agreements, that does not mean they have to, so again, NCSoft is at fault here.

    EU legislation will change this, but we will have to wait a bit for that. Actually, it would be a smart thing for NCSoft and all other software companies to start working on a single license agreement for all of the EU members, because once the legislation is there, it could break alot of games and software that do not comply.

     

     

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  • VakareVakare VilniusPosts: 1Member

    All of those who care, or even those who "don't give a ****" ;) please vote that Lithuania could play Aion EU, or, more specifically - would simply  have a choice :)

    www.aion-lithuania.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php

    P.S "Ne/No" means you guys support us and our wish to play Aion EU. Thank you !

  • Nostro1337Nostro1337 asfasfasPosts: 1Member

    I don't understand why would NCSoft scratch Croatia from Europe lists? For Gods sake Croatia is in the middle of the Europe ...

  • CammyCammy Calgary, ABPosts: 864Member
    Originally posted by inkvizitoris

    Originally posted by Cammy

    Originally posted by CyberWiz

    Originally posted by technos

    Originally posted by inkvizitoris


    Lithuanian players cant play AION in the EU servers, when lithuania actually is center of europe.
    According NCsoft..... lithuania belongs to Russian Region.... witch is not. Young lithuanians dont even speak in russian... and we gonna get only AION RU...... witch is not english version of the game....
    A lot of ppl was waiting here for AION, and now its totaly disappointment.
    UPDATE:


    these countries experiencing the same issue:
    - All baltic states ( Estonia, Lithuania and letland )

    - Turkey

    - Croatia


     

    Well first, claim the politicians of ur country working in the governement  to join in EURO. Then I am surely u can play on EU Server. -_- otherwise there is no choice since it is the issue of general liscensing which should be followed by the international laws, IF ncsoft would agree with u and open the EU server for ur country, then, NCsoft would get fucked for the breaking law?



     

    Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are members of the EU, so I am not sure what are you talking about.

    If NCSoft made agreements that Russia should control the Baltic states, then that is NCSoft's choice, and therefore they are pretty stupid.

     

     

    Mmm but not all EU countries (believe it or not) have the same rules.

     

    Some countries within the EU still have different laws compared to that of another EU country.

     

    Unfortnately I cannot speak of NCSoft/Gaming laws... but I know this is very true generally... 



     

    Lithuania got same laws and rules as all EU coutries....

     

    All Im saying is it differs from country to country, EVEN though its in the EU.

     

    I lived in Poland for 2 years... they still used their natural currency, EVEN though they were apart of the EU. So, they haven't switched over to the euro. Don't nitpick, it was an example.

     

    All Im saying is I don't think its "NCSoft refuses to deal with my country" Im pretty sure there is some legislation that makes it difficult for them (for whatever reason)

  • tryklontryklon PortoPosts: 1,370Member Uncommon

    Im sure that NCSoft has a reason to do this, probably the distribution contracts for the russian federation cover those countrys, I understand its bad for those people to be stuck with the russian client but its the way it works

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  • YuuiYuui KaunasPosts: 723Member


    Originally posted by tryklon
    Im sure that NCSoft has a reason to do this, probably the distribution contracts for the russian federation cover those countrys, I understand its bad for those people to be stuck with the russian client but its the way it works


    But the question still remains. WHY should countries that have nothing to do with Russia and are part of Europe, be grouped with Russian Federation?

    Frankly, it makes no sense.

    Lithuania and Baltic Countries ARE official part of Europe.

    Baltic Countries escaped from the claws of CCCP twenty years ago. All Baltic countries have already been official part of EU for more than 5 years. Its about time they are actually treated as such.

    Why should Lithuania, where ONLY 8% of population speak Russian as native language(and only 5% are Russians), be grouped with Russian Federation?

    Why should "distribution contracts" group these countries with Russia?

    Most of people in 18-30 age group do not speak English, so the main age category for the mmorpg is already lost due to the simple fact that the targeted age market in this country does NOT understand the language.

    Not to mention quite a high tensions existing between Russian people and the Baltic States.(The national poll of "national enemies" created by Russian "Press" lists all Baltic countries in the top ~5 of the list). With such *cough* emotions *cough* being propagated, I would find it hard for any Lithuanian, who would pass the language barrier, to play there.

    It makes no-sense no matter how - territory-wise or language-wise you look at it.


    No matter how you look at it, NCSOFT did a huge politically-incorrect decision, a decision which goes against anything that you could pass off as common sense.

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