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General: MMORPG.com E3 2009 Awards

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  • justill45justill45 Atlanta, GAPosts: 10Member
    Originally posted by Recon415




     
    And fill me in on why you feel that way. Hirez is a small company. They would not even have enough money to make a bribe like that. Their entire backing is by the Exec producer, who, to my knowledge, is funding the entire developement.

     

    No, Executuve producer, is not funding it

  • djFEVAdjFEVA Corvallis, ORPosts: 48Member

    While this year's picks are games that I'll most likely never pick up, since I'm not a fan at all for FPS, I'm still glad for the exposure. It was also a pretty interesting read of the efforts developers put forth to entice gamers.

    We are beings of change and evolution (and occasionally revolution too), and it's good to see what's outside the box - of norm.

    As for the speculation of a bribe, it's more hassle than its worth. Even if it's actually possible for Global Agenda to pay a bribe... once the game BETA/release doesn't match up with the article, mmorpg.com would totally lose all credibility, something I'm sure they don't want to risk, considering how many subscribers this site has and how many would be alienated. At least I know I would.

    P.S. - It's refreshing to see staff taking an active role and participating in the forum.

    The circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant. It's what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are.

  • AiianeAiiane Claremont, CAPosts: 17Member
    Originally posted by Dana


    Right, but keep in mind I gave it the award based on interview, video and playing the actual game with minimal supervision for about an hour.
    I wouldn't have given it the sticker unless it really was a lot of fun.

     

    Oh trust me, I know. :) Full disclosure here, I'm an Alpha tester for the game. It really is quite fun. That's why I'd like them to release more extensive footage, because I've experienced how fun the gameplay can be and they small amount of publicly-released footage doesn't capture that. :)

  • AiianeAiiane Claremont, CAPosts: 17Member
    Originally posted by justill45

    Originally posted by Recon415
     

     
     
    And fill me in on why you feel that way. Hirez is a small company. They would not even have enough money to make a bribe like that. Their entire backing is by the Exec producer, who, to my knowledge, is funding the entire developement.

     

    No, Executuve producer, is not funding it

     

    Hi-Rez Studios' C.E.O. Erez Goren is funding it out of his own pocket. He was previously the C.E.O. for other software companies in the business sector:

    http://atlanta.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2003/10/13/daily3.html

    http://www.hirezstudios.com/about_hi-rez_studios.html

  • DanaDana Halifax, NSPosts: 2,415Member
    Originally posted by djFEVA


    While this year's picks are games that I'll most likely never pick up, since I'm not a fan at all for FPS, I'm still glad for the exposure. It was also a pretty interesting read of the efforts developers put forth to entice gamers.
    We are beings of change and evolution (and occasionally revolution too), and it's good to see what's outside the box - of norm.
    As for the speculation of a bribe, it's more hassle than its worth. Even if it's actually possible for Global Agenda to pay a bribe... once the game BETA/release doesn't match up with the article, mmorpg.com would totally lose all credibility, something I'm sure they don't want to risk, considering how many subscribers this site has and how many would be alienated. At least I know I would.
    P.S. - It's refreshing to see staff taking an active role and participating in the forum.

     

    Yeah, if anyone thinks I took a bribe, feel free to go tell that to my 1999 Sunfire.

    Seriously some people need to tighten their tinfoil hats ;)

    Dana Massey
    Formerly of MMORPG.com
    Currently Lead Designer for Bit Trap Studios

  • Recon415Recon415 Columbia Falls, MTPosts: 55Member
    Originally posted by Aiiane

    Originally posted by justill45

    Originally posted by Recon415
     

     
     
    And fill me in on why you feel that way. Hirez is a small company. They would not even have enough money to make a bribe like that. Their entire backing is by the Exec producer, who, to my knowledge, is funding the entire developement.

     

    No, Executuve producer, is not funding it

     

    Hi-Rez Studios' C.E.O. Erez Goren is funding it out of his own pocket. He was previously the C.E.O. for other software companies in the business sector:

    http://atlanta.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2003/10/13/daily3.html

    http://www.hirezstudios.com/about_hi-rez_studios.html

     

    Ok, I was slightly wrong on the title, but the concept stays the same. Hirez has no backing from any well known deep pocketed company. This is all off one person's cash.

    I have computers; they are fast.

  • Talon27Talon27 Atlanta, GAPosts: 24Member
    Originally posted by Recon415


    Ok, I was slightly wrong on the title, but the concept stays the same. Hirez has no backing from any well known deep pocketed company. This is all off one person's cash.



     

    and clearly NOT just another WoW-wannabee. 

    Good to see they aren't afraid to try something a bit, uh... DIFFERENT!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NPZkgK-TkY

  • adarshakbadarshakb BangalorePosts: 35Member

    While i look into these games i realise how differently they have evolved over the ears... :) I eagerly await starwars to be launched and see it in action but.. what makes this E3 edition soo special is that there is a sense  of surprise we have to look out for in the furure... This is usual for the game event but i found this time its different despite the economic slow down.. I am convinced the MMOs wil eventually adapt a better way to keep ppl busy 27X7 than mindless grinding and Monster killing.

  • -aLpHa--aLpHa- KrefeldPosts: 852Member

    You are kidding me, 2 mmofps with lobby system get a MMORPG award. Why isn't there a Diablo 3 forum here actually, i mean your char is saved server side (you have the skill system) and you also have a lobby!

  • n00854180tn00854180t Dallas, TXPosts: 16Member
    Originally posted by Saerain

    Originally posted by Aiiane

    Originally posted by Emberz


    I cant help but feel that Global Agenda paid to take the number 1 spot. I wonder if MMORPG.com sold out on this one.
    Sorry if I am going against the grain on this one. But I'm just calling it how I see it.

     

    Why, because you don't think anyone except a giant company could make a good game?

     

    I can't speak for Emberz, but if we're anything alike, it is more because the game fails to appeal to us in any manner on any front, mechanically, visually or otherwise. I don't care who is developing it: I've just read a lot of adrenaline- and testosterone-driven commentary, seen screenshots of Unreal Tournament characters, watched videos of crappy-looking gameplay, and read the same kind of bad sci-fi short stories that preceded Tabula Rasa. I can't help but think that I would have loved it as a preteen boy, but today....

    It is nice to see an MMOFPS with decent character customization, though. That the facial customization is better than that of most recent MMORPGs is a pretty sad fact for the latter.

    In other words, it doesn't sport the beating-a-dead-horse-with-several-horse-corpses turn based hotbar whack-a-mole combat, and cookie-cutter generic fantasy setting of the majority of MMOs for the past ten years. 

    I also love the "It's not an MMO unless it has gameplay derived from MUDs, and must be turn based with hotbars!!! OMGZ!! ANGST!!" comments from others.  Sorry to break it to you, but MMO != MMO3DMUD (i.e., EQ, WoW et al, most any with turn based hotbar combat, auto-attack-and-wait gameplay).  The entire concept of a massively multiplayer game is to take a multiplayer game and add more players.  Both APB and GA meet those criterion, but since they aren't 1:1 clones of the boring stream of MMO3DMUD (see EQ, WoW et al) clones we've had for the past decade, people are going to whine about them constantly.

    Honestly, as a gamer and game developer, the trend of the term MMO to be redefined to narrowly refer ONLY to games that are direct clones of EQ/WoW/etc. (i.e., MMO3DMUDs, which is really what they are, since almost ALL of the gameplay in those games can be directly traced back to MUDs, i.e., combat, which is the primary gameplay in MMO3DMUDs (aside from meta-gameplay, such as item collection, stat/level mill, socialization)) was starting to thoroughly disgust me, given the potential possible for ANY type of multiplayer game to be made massive.  It's about damn time other developers have pulled their collective heads out of their arses and realized that a LOT of genres are fun to play on massive scale.

  • AryasAryas LondonPosts: 337Member

    I think people need to begin to accept that things are changing within the MMO world.

    Peoples expectations and technology are changing all the time and unless MMOs evolve they ultimately will be replaced by a new genre. Either that or gamers will have to adjust their definition of MMO to encompass the new types of game.

    I'm in the Global Agenda alpha and even the alpha version of GA is an incredibly fun game - period. To claim the manufacturers bribed a journalist because you're experiencing cognitive dissonance is pathetic and is the kind of negative attitude that's slowly destroying the original 'community' aspect of MMOs.

    Personally, I'm a low-fantasy kinda guy but even so, the mechanics of GA make it so much more engaging than the classic 'hotbar' style games. I can live with the hi-tech setting in the same way I could live with Pacman's crap graphics - the basic game is fantastic so the peripheral elements become less significant. It's like the lobby system that many people are sceptical about. Cities in WoW are just lobbies with no restrictions. And if no restrictions is all it takes to make you feel like you're truly immersed in what is basically a cartoon world, I have to wonder about your mental age. All competitive activities, e.g. sports, require some degree of infrastructure to bring players together. Otherwise, as with games like WAR, competitive battles never happen, have no direction or just fade out before getting started.

    GA won't be everyone's cup of tea, but no game ever will be. I think it will be extremely popular though, particularly if they market it well.

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  • comerbcomerb Seattle, WAPosts: 941Member
    Originally posted by grndzro


    FFXIV isn't on the list......It will be as big or bigger than SWtoR.
    imo this list is epic fail, and not for only the above reason.
    You need to take the developer's reputation and history of delivering on their games. Bioware and Square Enix are 2 of the greatest developers of all time in my book. with deep pockets and incredible talent backing them up.
    SWtoR and FFXIV sould head this list, IDC which one is first, but thoes 2 WILL be blockbusters.



     

    SWToR and FFXIV won't even be out before the next E3.  Maybe one of them will have enough actually gameplay to warrant a best of show then.

    Truth is Bioware has no MMO experience, and theres game's are carried by their storylines (the actual gameplay of their game's are generally mediocre at best).  And Square Enix developed FFXI... a game thats is incredibly underwhelming given the IPs potential. 

    Global Agenda is something different, atleast compared to the stuff thats been put out over the last several years.  And its apparently quite fun to play.  Maybe you are more interested in brand names and cinematic movies, but I'm personally looking for a good game to play.  Kudos to MMORPG for not taking the easy way out and actually giving us a real opinion.

  • RelapsE28RelapsE28 Freehold, NJPosts: 13Member

    I think Star Wars the Old Republic is going to be huge. I can't wait until that game comes out!

    ?RelapsE?

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