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General: Will it Work With Vista?
Stradden
Managing EditorMember CommonPosts: 6,696
Jeremy Starley takes a look at what the new Window's Vista effects the average MMORPG gamer by telling us about his own experiences with the new Microsoft OS.
As we all know - or should know, unless we happen to live under a rock - Microsoft recently gave birth to a shiny, burbling baby operating system: Windows Vista. Ooh, look at it, it's pretty. And it's also pretty frustrating if you don't know what to expect.
Yes, installing a new OS is always an adventure. Sometimes that adventure ends happily ever after with a nice sunset-lit hand-holding session, but more often it seems to end with our hero being de-boned for a quick dinner with the local troll family. Have no fear, I'm here with a torch to fend off those nasty OS trolls and get you up and gaming with Windows Vista.
Read the whole report here.
Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com
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"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
Here's a link to a post about the AL sound issues in Vanguard and a fix.
http://www.silkyvenom.com
Actually Vanguard runs fine for me. I have an 8800GTS with the 100.59 drivers and also an X-Fi soundcard. I don't have the alchemy software though.
I can not get City of Heroes to run in Full Screen mode. As of now I've been running in Windowed mode and that has worked alright.
Actually Vanguard runs fine for me. I have an 8800GTS with the 100.59 drivers and also an X-Fi soundcard. I don't have the alchemy software though.
I can not get City of Heroes to run in Full Screen mode. As of now I've been running in Windowed mode and that has worked alright.
Sure, why not laugh at games (or operating systems)? Software does't have feelings to hurt, afterall. There are things in life far worse to laugh at.
And in its current form, VGSOH is a complete joke. LOL.
I liked the article though, Stradden.
Actually Vanguard runs fine for me. I have an 8800GTS with the 100.59 drivers and also an X-Fi soundcard. I don't have the alchemy software though.
I can not get City of Heroes to run in Full Screen mode. As of now I've been running in Windowed mode and that has worked alright.
Sure, why not laugh at games (or operating systems)? Software does't have feelings to hurt, afterall. There are things in life far worse to laugh at.
And in its current form, VGSOH is a complete joke. LOL.
I liked the article though, Stradden.
look what you've gone and done now
you've upset Vanguard! Humph................. It's going to be crying in that corner for years now and gonna get nowhere!
Hope your happy now.
Blasphemy!
Vanguard runs just fine for me , i have 99000000 GT , and just 15 gb ram. And i never have to /flush more than once in 30 minutes!
And my freon water cooling on quadrupal AMD core , is not even glowing blue , like ever !
Actually my spaceship , is connected to PC
Just kidding guys
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
Your PC is oldddddddd...
I'm on Ati x9950xtx, intel 300 core and 2000gb ram :P Cooled in 0.0 sec space.
i get a few stuttering problems on Vanguard but the graphics are AMAZING they are like totally better than a game from 5 years ago!
This is my sig...
Gotta go buy a Creative card. Which isn't painful, always skipped a good sound card tho'.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
Thanks again.
Why do folks threaten Vista with buying a Mac? Don't they know it lacks the one key feature that helps them feel like turbo nerds without ever taking the MS cert? There's no right click, there's alt+click but no right clicking to allow you access to the depths of '1337ness'. So shadup, get 2 gigs of ram and deal with it.
Vista's nothing special in a bad or good way. It's just the obvious next step. Give it a year for support catch up and boom. Then you can sort of gripe about the usual Window's gripes. Just hopefully not as often.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
You shouldn't get a new Windows OS until it's been out for a while.
Come on people! Has nobody learned that with a new MS OS, you must wait until at least the first Service Pack before it's actually worth using?
I point you back to the first minor patches released for XP - pre-SP1 some of them would screw up your install and require a total format. Pre-SP2 similar things were not unheard of.
Now we think XP is fine, nice and stable and relatively bug-free (or at least managable ones).
I'm happy with XP, and certainly can't see myself upgrading just because a new shiny OS has come out. I'll stick with it until all the games I play no longer have XP support
In my opinion Windows Vista is not game ready yet. Of course many people with dream (to me) systems can enjoy their games on any operating system even it is the new microsoft's baby.
All of you that use this operating system must have in my mind that all grafix cards are designed for the directx 9.c interfaces and do not have the same perfomance on windows vista as they did on windows xp. Super card users will not notice much difference from 120 frames to 80 fps but lower end systems will suffer from flickering and strange interactions like crashing with no error messages since error handling is a memory and perfomance consuming feature for the directx (direct api) calls.
I think that we all must wait until directx 10 graphics cards are released and the Windows Vista operating system will allow poor people like me to enjoy them without much perfomance loss.
I ve found some screenies you might find interesting but i can't guarantee that they are true. (I wish they are!!!)
DirectX9 Vs DirectX10
DX9
DX 10
Age of Conan DX9
Age of Conan DX10 (WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO RELEASE THAT?! WHEN I GET MY RETIREMENT??)
Age of Conan DX 9
Age of Conan DX 10
Halo: Combat Evolved DX 9
Crysis DX 10 ( I can't believe that)
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1941407,00.asp
"DirectX 10 versus DirectX 9
DirectX 10 will ship as part of Windows Vista. Most users won't see the impact initially, since the native desktop API for Vista is actually DirectX 9.0c (pixel shader 2.0), so current generation graphics hardware will work just fine. It's likely that we'll see DirectX 10 capable hardware by the end of the year, even if Vista doesn't ship. Those cards should work with DirectX 9.0, assuming you want to buy one.
One key aspect of Direct3D 10 is that it's almost certainly going to be a Vista only feature. Direct3D 10 depends on the new Windows Device Driver Model, plus some of the virtualization features built into Vista. Retrofitting DirectX 10 to Windows XP is possible, but would take significant engineering and QA effort. On the other hand, if Vista's schedule keeps slipping, Microsoft may need to reevaluate this stance.
So Direct3D 10 won't have an immediate impact, save for a handful of titles slated to ship not long after Vista launches. What does DirectX 10 offer?
From the end users perspective, the concept of consistency is huge. Today, whatever GPU supplier (Nvidia or ATI typically) you choose means that you give up some feature that's available on one vendor's GPU, but not the other. With DirectX 10 hardware, running DirectX 10 software, performance is the key difference." .......
That may work in XP, but it does not work in Vista. With that fix, you will get stereo sound, and it will show your soundcard in the drop down. Note STEREO sound, not 2.1 - so no bass.
The only way that I have found for VG to give me 5.1 sound under Vista is the fix I listed in the article.
Agent_X7 AKA J Star
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I bought Windows Vista around the retail debut date.
At the moment, I have the following games on my PC:
City of Heroes (runs great if not better than when using XP/ had to implement -compatibleCursors 1 to see mouse icon ingame)
World of Warcraft (runs also great/ slight noise stuttering and popping, but vsync adjustment fixxed that)
Oblivion (no problems what so ever)
Rainbow 6: Vegas (no problems)
Company of Heroes (no problems)
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (no problems)
9Dragons (no problems)
2Moons (cannot run at the moment/ gameguard has an issue that causes a BSoD with either the video card drivers or Vista itself)
I am happy with Vista so far. I remember the fated rumblings of how XP would destroy gaming and ruin your PC, so I take everything in stride.
-ashe-
Imagine that. A writer wanna be for mmorpg getting in a cheap shot in at Vanguard. Personally I think people like you remove any credibility the gaming press has by adding low blows like this and I wanted to really let you have it, but then I thought to myself wait, this guy is so insignificant in the whole scheme of things that what he writes really doesn't matter one way or another.
However i rolled the pc back 1 day and now its all good again, also Vanguard worked fine with my pc, but after seeing the beta of LOTRO i can safely say i won't be worried about going back to Vanguard
My opinion is, staying on Windows XP till the price is lowering. For a student like me its a high sum of money.
- Silver
I have a new machine and have both XP and Vista setup discs...I'm debating what to install...
-G
By that I mean you have only tested on one machine, from what i can tell anyway.
I mean, if i give my own experiences running these games.
WoW 60fps, no sound problems
Guild Wars, 60fps no problems what so ever
and Vanguard (a game I currently have windowed as a type this) runs very nicely at a minimum of 25fps in towns (of course that god damn hitching still happens) runs A-OK everywhere with a stable 30-50 fps when outside and in dungeons.
My spec (note: PC is 1 year old as of last week)
ASUS AX8 Version 2.0
ATI X1900XTX 512
2Gig OCZ Platinum Ram
No Sound card, using mobo Stereo output
Running Windows Vista
In future i'll take your tech posts with a pinch of salt as they are far from detailed in there measurements.
This post is a simple whine from somebody who has the power to make a post into a news announcement.
I'm sorry you are having problems with your vista installation.
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