Petition rapidly growing for EA to lose Star Wars license passes 110k signers.

DauzqulDauzqul Detroit, MIMember RarePosts: 1,709
edited December 4 in The Pub at MMORPG.COM
I wasn't sure if there was already a thread on this, but I'll post it anyway.

Petition here: https://www.change.org/p/lucasfilm-revoke-ea-s-star-wars-license

You can literally see the count raise every second.


"Early last week, a petition surfaced with the intent of requesting that LucasFilm parent company Disney remove the Star Wars license from Electronic Arts. As can be expected, Star Wars fans were frustrated with the studio’s handling of the franchise for Battlefront 2, especially as it pertains to microtransactions and loot boxes.

When we first reported on the petition, it was gaining steam and had about 19,000 signatures, but now it has exploded. It’s only a few days later, and now the petition is up to 110,000 signatures and climbing.

While this petition has attracted a ton of attention from fans, it is unlikely actually to result in Disney removing Electronic Arts’ license at least right now. The two companies most likely signed a contract that guaranteed EA would be the sole publisher for Star Wars games (not including Disney) and any breach of that contract would result in a hefty fine. That being said, if the agreement needs to be renewed, then Disney might think twice about partnering up with EA again.

If nothing else, things like this petition and gamer boycotts of Star Wars Battlefront 2 will force publishers to rethink how they approach monetizing games through microtransactions and loot boxes. There has always been a slippery slope when it comes to add-ons, but recently developers and publishers have begun to push the envelope concerning what fun loot box content is and what is pay-to-win. A game like Middle-earth: Shadow of War, for example, chose to use loot boxes to bolster its single-player experience, which was met with plenty of raised eyebrows from gamers.

But then Star Wars Battlefront 2 came along with exorbitant price points for hero characters and loot boxes that contain Star Cards with player buffs. It wasn’t overtly pay-to-win, but EA was skirting the line by allowing players to use real money to purchase loot boxes. The company was quick to remove the Crystal currency from the game (temporarily) in the hopes of saving face for the game’s official launch.

Unfortunately, the damage was done for EA and sales have been much lower for Battlefront 2, and the company’s stock took a tumble recently. So while this petition might eventually result in Disney revoking EA’s Star Wars license, it has hopefully opened publishers’ eyes to how damaging a vocal and frustrated community can be."





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  • blorpykinsblorpykins Member RarePosts: 307
    change.org is a good gauge for other politicians to look at and see if it's a cause worthy of their time.  I'm glad to see people getting organized against predatory game mechanics.

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  • DauzqulDauzqul Detroit, MIMember RarePosts: 1,709
    change.org is a good gauge for other politicians to look at and see if it's a cause worthy of their time.  I'm glad to see people getting organized against predatory game mechanics.

    lol, so true. "What can I do to get people to like me."
  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaMember EpicPosts: 13,186
    I remember the first day it started in EQ2 a number of years ago.Promises by Smedley that we would retain sub servers and microtransaction servers but he lied and soon all of SOE was using rmt.

    Where is SOE today??
    HUGE mistake and greed lead Smedley out the door and now finally several years later,the rest of the crowd are waking up to BS tactics.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • XodicXodic RealityMember RarePosts: 708
    edited December 4
    I would suspect there's a do no harm clause in the contract. In which case a petition of this size may be all that they need to prove the harm done to the brand.
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  • MargraveMargrave Member UncommonPosts: 945
    I signed it, and have been spreading the word about it as best I can. I want that license revoked.
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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,850
    edited December 4
    Disney's dealing with their own kerfluffel, being accused of running a 21 minute Frozen short feature in front of Coco as a Christmas marketing scam.

    They are going to pull it from theatres in response to audience backlash.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/12/4/16709884/olafs-frozen-adventure-coco-disney-pixar-explained

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  • Jonnyp2Jonnyp2 Member UncommonPosts: 230
    Well at last Battlefront 2 had some questionable micro transactions.  Generally these reddit crusades are completely ridiculous.  I expect EA will go back to primarily cosmetic with some quality of life purchases for their next couple releases.  Although I've heard the UFC 3 beta is pretty bad as well?  Maybe nothing will change.  

    I'm not sure about losing their license.  Personally I don't care either way, but what will even change?  It will just go to activision or tencent... same shit.  
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  • ScorchienScorchien Hatboro, PAMember EpicPosts: 4,078
    EA owns the License to 2023 ..............Its not going to change
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member EpicPosts: 18,210
    Why should EA lose the license?  Is there any other company better than EA at using popular IPs to convince people to pay too much money for bad games?

    The reality is that EA will lose the license when Disney decides there's more money to be had by licensing Star Wars to some other game company, and not a day sooner.  Contracts may make that unlikely to happen before the current deal expires.  Disney, like EA, exists to make money.  If you don't like how they're trying to make money, then don't give them any of yours.
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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCMember LegendaryPosts: 10,275
    And give it to who exactly? I doubt CDPR would want it :)
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 15,017
    I'd laugh my ass off if it went to Activision because of their matchmaking RMT algorithm patent.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 15,017
    Kyleran said:
    Disney's dealing with their own kerfluffel, being accused of running a 21 minute Frozen short feature in front of Coco as a Christmas marketing scam.

    They are going to pull it from theatres in response to audience backlash.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/12/4/16709884/olafs-frozen-adventure-coco-disney-pixar-explained

    I heard the poor movie goers lattes were swirled in the wrong direction compounding their confusion and outrage.
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  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKMember LegendaryPosts: 17,131
    Good luck with the petition and all that.

    It won't do diddly squat.


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  • borghive49borghive49 Pittsburgh, PAMember RarePosts: 330
    Spread the word, tell people to vote with their wallets. 
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  • ThebeastttThebeasttt Grah, ALMember RarePosts: 1,064
    Spread the word, tell people to vote with their wallets. 
    This is the only petition that matters to them. Continue to punish their shareholders and s*** will change real quick.
    Popple
  • RexKushmanRexKushman lake como, NJMember RarePosts: 404
    Like most change.org petitions this will be ignored, as it should be. The site started with good intentions but when garbage like this petition are on there you know change.org has jumped the shark.

    If you don't like the game then don't buy it, pretty simple.
    Torvalborghive49

  • RateroRatero Tallassee, ALMember UncommonPosts: 393
    Call me a dreamer but... I'd rather see a petition to get SWG back. 

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAMember RarePosts: 27,659
    Spread the word, tell people to vote with their wallets. 
    This is the only petition that matters to them. Continue to punish their shareholders and s*** will change real quick.

    Yeh .. unfortunately, most people voting with their wallet is not going to work. You need the whales to play ball.

    Personally i am not going to pay/play Battlefront 2, unless it comes to Origin Access. So none of these concerns me. 
  • RhoklawRhoklaw Ft. Bliss, TXMember EpicPosts: 5,266
    I love all the pessimistic doomsayers chiming in with, "you guys are wasting your time, nothing will change"

    No shit, when your answer to everything is to bend over.
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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon santa clara, CAMember RarePosts: 27,659
    Rhoklaw said:


    No shit, when your answer to everything is to bend over.
    No. My answer to everything is to walk away and find something else fun to do.

    There are plenty of entertainment in this world. Binge a netflix show. Read a novel. Play Alien Isolation (yes, i have not yet finished that). Heck, come here and engage in forum pvp.

    and if you don't think you are wasting your time, do continue. At least it will provide amusing entertainment in this forum. And hey, if it works, more power to you.

  • ScotScot UKMember RarePosts: 6,649
    Kyleran said:
    Disney's dealing with their own kerfluffel, being accused of running a 21 minute Frozen short feature in front of Coco as a Christmas marketing scam.

    They are going to pull it from theatres in response to audience backlash.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/12/4/16709884/olafs-frozen-adventure-coco-disney-pixar-explained


    The punters get to see a short for free, I cannot understand the issue, the cinema should have made it clear what was going on.

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  • flizzerflizzer Manchester, NHMember RarePosts: 2,278
    I guess Im old fashioned. I just don't play the game.  If enough people did that they wouldn't be able to make any money on the game.  
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  • ScotScot UKMember RarePosts: 6,649
    I am extremely against gambling in gaming. But the idea they should loose the licence is going way too far. Lets see if they learn their lesson, I would extend that courtesy to any person, company or government.

    Instead of "punishing" them which is what many seem to want to do, try to remember most EA employees are not involved in the decisions which have led to gambling in their games.

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  • cameltosiscameltosis ipswichMember EpicPosts: 1,745
    I would like EA to lose the Star Wars license. 

    Not because of the recent mtx issues (which I despise and want out of gaming) but because EA make mediocre games. With EA holding the license until 2023 it means I won't get a good Star Wars game for the next 6 years....and that sucks. 


    What should happen instead is that EA lose their exclusive license and instead all developers are able to pitch for individual licenses. So, CDPR want to create a proper SW RPG? Great! Let them, as long as they pay for the license for that game. EA want to create an RPG? Nope, turn them down on that front, they're rubbish at RPGs so deny them the license for that one. But, EA want to create a Star Wars sports game? Sure, grant them the license for that. 


    I really do hate exclusive licenses. I can understand the appeal for both developers/publishers as well as the IP holders, but for us as consumers it sucks. 
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    I really do hate exclusive licenses. I can understand the appeal for both developers/publishers as well as the IP holders, but for us as consumers it sucks. 

    Disney (the license owner) has no obligation to make it "not suck" for you. It is always a two-way street. The IP owner can do whatever he/she pleases and if you like the product, you buy and enjoy.

    Star Wars does not belong to you. Just like when George Lucas has the license, he could sit on it for decades without making a movie, and then made 3 bad movies. 

    Can you really blame the IP owner trying to milk their property? 
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