Will A:IR Reignite AAA MMORPG Development? - Bill Murphy - MMORPG.com

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  • BionicFoxBionicFox Member CommonPosts: 1
    I am super excited for AIR , I recommend signing up on the official forum to stay up to date : https://forum.airthegame.com/index.php
  • JDis25JDis25 Member RarePosts: 1,311
    edited November 14
    Ratero said:
    They lost me soon as it was mentioned that it was an Asian MMO. I don't like the Asian grind, oversized weapons, male characters that look like they are professional crossdressers, cash shop, progression locks that must be unlocked by PvP or cash and the overly "cutesy" air hovering over the entire game.

    I liked the steam-punk vibe but that is about it.
    "I don't like the Asian oversized weapons!"

    Meanwhile in the west...


    But it looks ugly so it's fine, typical western artstyle. The west is afraid of sexy things, it's not christian. That being said, I put elder scrolls games as my fav of all time, so I will sacrifice looks for great game design.
    Post edited by JDis25 on
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  • LeiloniLeiloni PhiladelphiaMember RarePosts: 1,093
    edited November 14
    Myrdynn said:
    I don't care about Gender lock if there is enough classes, but only 5 classes??? and since I will only play a male it means I am likely stuck with a Warrior and a Rogue as my options once again
    No, each class will have two subclasses but they haven't revealed yet what they are. Go to https://www.airthegame.com/teaser#none and click on News, then the Classes Spotlight article. They're weirdly not directly linkable, but at the very bottom there's a little sentence about subclasses that will be revealed later.

    Also there's no gender lock.
    Post edited by Leiloni on
  • SiveriaSiveria Saint John, New BrunswickMember UncommonPosts: 1,298
    In b4 its just yet another boring wow clone with the same single player game mindset that its devoloped for.

    The main problem with mmorpgs is they have lost the MMO part, if you can solo all the way to level cap and thru msot of the content, its not a mmo anymore its now a gimped single player game. This is the main problem with mmorpgs these days. They need to make the game so you have to group past like level 10, or else you don't get anywhere. This forces socilization and gets people to work together, it also prevents alot of people from being an ass as they can't just go and solo it instead.

    FF11 did this well by being very group oriented as most classes past lv 8 or 10 required a party for most things, all jobs being accessable on one char, and stuff actually taking some time and commitment to do long before level cap. This prevent trolls from being trolls as people who were known to be an ass were often excluded from parties, same if you sucked at the game, you'd not get invites. The fact it took a fair amount of time to do things prevented people from just making a new char if they got a bad rep, as it might take months (insted of days like most mmorpgs today) to get anywhere near where they were.

    FF11 before it got the casualifcation patch and abbysea was one of the last real mmorpgs that existed, as you always needed people to do things, even to level up. Its still the best mmorpg i've played in recent years, or rather since wow came out.

    This is what mmorpgs have lost since wow came out with how it changed the genre from a game where you were required to work together, to bascally a crappy single player game that just has a chat room. This is also what people refer to as the good old days, back when mmorpgs were not soloable at all, and you always needed others to do anything, even to just level. They also didn't hand everything out like they do today, in FF11 you had to put in some effort to get things, nothing was ever just handed to you.

    I've played alot of mmorpgs over the years, tried pretty much every game once, and to this day, no mmo has kept me a concurrent player for as long as FF11 did back when I played it. Most mmo's today I get bored of in less than a week, as there really is nothing usually to do other than go from quest hub to quest hub.

    P.s. people who complain about it taking forever to get a party in ff11 back in the day, never seemed to relize it was their own fault, they were sitting there expecting it to fall into their lap, insted of going out and putting their own party together. I often had guildmates ask me how I leveled so fast back then in ff11, and the answer was simple: I make my own parties, its often much faster than waiting unless your certan jobs like paladin, redmage, white mage. Those usually got a party pretty quickly. Back when FF11 came out stateside I was one of the first few NA players to hit lv 50 and start the first lv cap quest.
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  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,386
    Looks like they threw everything and the kitchen sink into this one. Having watched the video, I'm still not sure what this game is supposed to be.
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  • AmatheAmathe Miami, FLMember RarePosts: 2,953
    Trippy. Don't know what to think.

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  • qwikknqwikkn Member CommonPosts: 1
    all the crying about gender locking and how that makes the programmer's lazy. You all are the LAZY ones. the question was answered already that there will be NO gender locking, try looking stuff up instead of WHAAAAAAA I quit.
    AND NO I will not do the work for you , go look it up
  • sayuusayuu glendale, AZMember RarePosts: 557
    Ratero said:
    They lost me soon as it was mentioned that it was an Asian MMO. I don't like the Asian grind, oversized weapons, male characters that look like they are professional crossdressers, cash shop, progression locks that must be unlocked by PvP or cash and the overly "cutesy" air hovering over the entire game.

    I liked the steam-punk vibe but that is about it.
    "I don't like the Asian oversized weapons!"

    Meanwhile in the west...


    That's so disappointing, but I guess where do you go after so many expansions?  Lol sooner or later the gamers go "man, this same size sword doesn't FEEL any better than the one from the previous expac..."
    that sword is from the Burning Crusade. . . you know, the 1st expansion.
    MadFrenchie
  • TillerTiller Member RarePosts: 6,195
    qwikkn said:
    all the crying about gender locking and how that makes the programmer's lazy. You all are the LAZY ones. the question was answered already that there will be NO gender locking, try looking stuff up instead of WHAAAAAAA I quit.
    AND NO I will not do the work for you , go look it up
    We got that, it was confirmed many pages back and most are over it. Did you just make your alt account to complain about the complainers?





  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaMember EpicPosts: 13,108
    edited November 15
    Every single site i read about THIS game,has to mention "from the developer of the smash hit PUBG",it is like every site says the same thing,is anyone making their own news or is this all pre fabbed by the developer and copy pasted by the websites.
    PUBG is a pile of crap,5% better than H1Z1 that seems to somehow be a pile of crap now that players have made PUBG their home.

    VERY little effort has gone into PUBG,so if the same kind of effort goes into Infinite Realm i would expect a pile of crap.I repeat,if they can't put any effort into a simple game like PUBG,how could ANYONE expect a fully fledged MMORPG out`of this team?

    So why has the news not aimed at "TERA creator"i mean Tera is a mmorpg ,PUBG is not so why that comparison,it makes zero sense and less sense that EVERY website is saying the same thing,so yeah you can understand my skeptic look on this sudden advertising.

    Devilian<<<OUCH,complete crap,this site also tried to tell us how great that game was as well,oh yes we shoudl beleive there is no working arrangement between this site and Bluehole when trying to convince us Devilian was good ,NOBODY cares about Devilian.

    Long winded point?Why should we believe this site or any site hyping up a game based on PUBG that is not even related to the same genre and Devilian not mentioned either which is closer to Infinite than PUBG is.Use YOUR OWN judgement,this studio has not put out any real effort since Tera and that game has a very low population,so this to me is a FAST money grab,similar to PUBG,let me guess.....Founders packs for sale?
    Post edited by Wizardry on

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Nashville, TNMember EpicPosts: 2,716
    edited November 15
    sayuu said:
    Ratero said:
    They lost me soon as it was mentioned that it was an Asian MMO. I don't like the Asian grind, oversized weapons, male characters that look like they are professional crossdressers, cash shop, progression locks that must be unlocked by PvP or cash and the overly "cutesy" air hovering over the entire game.

    I liked the steam-punk vibe but that is about it.
    "I don't like the Asian oversized weapons!"

    Meanwhile in the west...


    That's so disappointing, but I guess where do you go after so many expansions?  Lol sooner or later the gamers go "man, this same size sword doesn't FEEL any better than the one from the previous expac..."
    that sword is from the Burning Crusade. . . you know, the 1st expansion.
    Never played TBC long enough to notice those items.

    I'm not a fan of the oversized, though it does seem to work better when the overall art style is cartoonish ala WoW.

    I much prefer a normal sized sword with intricate designs carved into blade and/or hilt.  Same goes for armor.  It doesn't have to be historic, but suspension of disbelief only goes so far when you're lugging around a sword 4 ft taller than your character.
    Post edited by MadFrenchie on

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  • lancerxxlancerxx Phoenix, AZMember UncommonPosts: 35
    Wizardry said:
    Every single site i read about THIS game,has to mention "from the developer of the smash hit PUBG",it is like every site says the same thing,is anyone making their own news or is this all pre fabbed by the developer and copy pasted by the websites.
    PUBG is a pile of crap,5% better than H1Z1 that seems to somehow be a pile of crap now that players have made PUBG their home.

    VERY little effort has gone into PUBG,so if the same kind of effort goes into Infinite Realm i would expect a pile of crap.I repeat,if they can't put any effort into a simple game like PUBG,how could ANYONE expect a fully fledged MMORPG out`of this team?

    So why has the news not aimed at "TERA creator"i mean Tera is a mmorpg ,PUBG is not so why that comparison,it makes zero sense and less sense that EVERY website is saying the same thing,so yeah you can understand my skeptic look on this sudden advertising.

    Devilian<<<OUCH,complete crap,this site also tried to tell us how great that game was as well,oh yes we shoudl beleive there is no working arrangement between this site and Bluehole when trying to convince us Devilian was good ,NOBODY cares about Devilian.

    Long winded point?Why should we believe this site or any site hyping up a game based on PUBG that is not even related to the same genre and Devilian not mentioned either which is closer to Infinite than PUBG is.Use YOUR OWN judgement,this studio has not put out any real effort since Tera and that game has a very low population,so this to me is a FAST money grab,similar to PUBG,let me guess.....Founders packs for sale?
    Saying nobody cares about a game comes across as arrogant imo :smile:
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus LondonMember RarePosts: 1,267
    sayuu said:
    Ratero said:
    They lost me soon as it was mentioned that it was an Asian MMO. I don't like the Asian grind, oversized weapons, male characters that look like they are professional crossdressers, cash shop, progression locks that must be unlocked by PvP or cash and the overly "cutesy" air hovering over the entire game.

    I liked the steam-punk vibe but that is about it.
    "I don't like the Asian oversized weapons!"

    Meanwhile in the west...


    That's so disappointing, but I guess where do you go after so many expansions?  Lol sooner or later the gamers go "man, this same size sword doesn't FEEL any better than the one from the previous expac..."
    that sword is from the Burning Crusade. . . you know, the 1st expansion.
    Never played TBC long enough to notice those items.

    I'm not a fan of the oversized, though it does seem to work better when the overall art style is cartoonish ala WoW.

    I much prefer a normal sized sword with intricate designs carved into blade and/or hilt.  Same goes for armor.  It doesn't have to be historic, but suspension of disbelief only goes so far when you're lugging around a sword 4 ft taller than your character.
    Problem is they all feel the same way, size doesn't matter at all. (what a relief guys, eh?)

    There are big weapons in Dark Souls. But you'd feel the weight. I'm ok with that. Although they rarely ridiculously big. 
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  • bhaynes333bhaynes333 Spokane Valley, WAMember UncommonPosts: 5
    Mmorpg.com how much does your research team get paid because they should make less... https://forum.airthegame.com/index.php?threads/the-a-ir-teaser-faq-is-live.43/

    A lot of guessing in your views with little actual research done >.<<br />
    Fyi: planning on not making genderlocked classes just so ya know
  • bhaynes333bhaynes333 Spokane Valley, WAMember UncommonPosts: 5

    LrdEtrius said:

    Nope. I jumped out of the hype boat as soon as i noticed the gender lock. If they can't even have this basic thing in character management i don't wanna know the rest.



    Maybe do some research >.<

    Directly from their FAQ forum
    "Are the classes of A:IR gender locked?
    Bluehole is planning to add both genders to each class."
  • bhaynes333bhaynes333 Spokane Valley, WAMember UncommonPosts: 5

    Tiller said:


    LrdEtrius said:

    Nope. I jumped out of the hype boat as soon as i noticed the gender lock. If they can't even have this basic thing in character management i don't wanna know the rest.



    This game is what I would expect to see if you mixed GW2 with BDO. Looks ok but what is it with Korean games and gender lock classes?



    Directly from their FAQ forum
    "Are the classes of A:IR gender locked?
    Bluehole is planning to add both genders to each class."
  • bhaynes333bhaynes333 Spokane Valley, WAMember UncommonPosts: 5



    LrdEtrius said:

    Nope. I jumped out of the hype boat as soon as i noticed the gender lock. If they can't even have this basic thing in character management i don't wanna know the rest.


    Seriously, gender-locking classes is just lazy development.  They need to do the extra work and allow people to make the character they want.



    Directly from their FAQ forum
    "Are the classes of A:IR gender locked?
    Bluehole is planning to add both genders to each class."
  • bhaynes333bhaynes333 Spokane Valley, WAMember UncommonPosts: 5

    abnesher said:

    A few alarmbells goes off for me. Of course because of the gender lock, but mostly because of the focus on the flying aspect of the game.. It's even in the name.



    "We need flying" is such a gimmicky concept to build an MMO around



    Directly from their FAQ forum
    "Are the classes of A:IR gender locked?
    Bluehole is planning to add both genders to each class."
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus LondonMember RarePosts: 1,267
    edited November 15
    So what are the classes, gender locked?

    Ps. I have finally figured out the internet.
    Post edited by ConstantineMerus on
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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCMember LegendaryPosts: 10,152
    By my count in this thread it's "Going to be gender locked" 23 and "No it isn't" 20. The score wouldn't be quite so close if that one poster hadn't decided to say "No it isn't" 5 times in a row... good job @bhaynes333!
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Nashville, TNMember EpicPosts: 2,716
    Iselin said:
    By my count in this thread it's "Going to be gender locked" 23 and "No it isn't" 20. The score wouldn't be quite so close if that one poster hadn't decided to say "No it isn't" 5 times in a row... good job @bhaynes333!
    So that means those insisting it will be gender locked win, somebody alert Bluehole at once!  We cannot allow them to disappoint the masses!

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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCMember LegendaryPosts: 10,152
    Iselin said:
    By my count in this thread it's "Going to be gender locked" 23 and "No it isn't" 20. The score wouldn't be quite so close if that one poster hadn't decided to say "No it isn't" 5 times in a row... good job @bhaynes333!
    So that means those insisting it will be gender locked win, somebody alert Bluehole at once!  We cannot allow them to disappoint the masses!
    It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
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    With great lawyers you have discussed lepers and crooks
    You've been through all of F. Scott Fitzgerald's books
    You're very well-read, it's well-known
    But something is happening here and you don't know what it is
    Do you, Mr. Jones?
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus LondonMember RarePosts: 1,267
    Iselin said:
    By my count in this thread it's "Going to be gender locked" 23 and "No it isn't" 20. The score wouldn't be quite so close if that one poster hadn't decided to say "No it isn't" 5 times in a row... good job @bhaynes333!
    Hey don't forget the value of my fake news! ;)
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  • RevofireRevofire Melbourne, FLMember UncommonPosts: 267

    LrdEtrius said:

    Nope. I jumped out of the hype boat as soon as i noticed the gender lock. If they can't even have this basic thing in character management i don't wanna know the rest.



    I like the gender locks, I'm fine with it.
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  • TillerTiller Member RarePosts: 6,195
    edited November 15
    Mmorpg.com how much does your research team get paid because they should make less... https://forum.airthegame.com/index.php?threads/the-a-ir-teaser-faq-is-live.43/

    A lot of guessing in your views with little actual research done >.<

    Fyi: planning on not making genderlocked classes just so ya know




    LrdEtrius said:

    Nope. I jumped out of the hype boat as soon as i noticed the gender lock. If they can't even have this basic thing in character management i don't wanna know the rest.


    Seriously, gender-locking classes is just lazy development.  They need to do the extra work and allow people to make the character they want.



    Directly from their FAQ forum
    "Are the classes of A:IR gender locked?
    Bluehole is planning to add both genders to each class."


    abnesher said:

    A few alarmbells goes off for me. Of course because of the gender lock, but mostly because of the focus on the flying aspect of the game.. It's even in the name.



    "We need flying" is such a gimmicky concept to build an MMO around



    Directly from their FAQ forum
    "Are the classes of A:IR gender locked?
    Bluehole is planning to add both genders to each class."


    abnesher said:

    A few alarmbells goes off for me. Of course because of the gender lock, but mostly because of the focus on the flying aspect of the game.. It's even in the name.



    "We need flying" is such a gimmicky concept to build an MMO around



    Directly from their FAQ forum
    "Are the classes of A:IR gender locked?
    Bluehole is planning to add both genders to each class."

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    :s
    Seriously, delete your MMORPG.com account right now. We all know this, the staff has also admitted the error several pages back. No need to continue your triggered tirade.




    Page 2 Proof below

    "Move along"
    "Move along"
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    Bingo. Was just going to bring this up. Confirmed that they will NOT be gender locked.


    Grend said:



    SBFord said:


    Gender lock is, sorry to say, a deal breaker for me if there is no option to play the type of class I prefer as a female character. I simply don't understand why there even is such a thing as gender locking in this era of MMOs.

    I guess we'll see once more is known about AIR -- I hope I can find a place since the world really needs a great steampunk game.






    Well I guess you are in luck. In the faqs on their forums, they already addressed the question about genderlocking. The plan is to have the 5 classes to be available for both genders.



    https://forum.airthegame.com/index.php?threads/the-a-ir-teaser-faq-is-live.43/





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