Classic wow will make noobs cry

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  • rush1984rush1984 essexMember UncommonPosts: 324
    edited November 5
    Relampago said:
    SS->TM and back.
    But them wars was awesome , I was on a RP (earthen ring) server in 2005 and when we did the Ss vs Tm wars it was epic we used to line up mounted while leader strolled back and forth doing his brave heart speech lol horde did the same and then chaaaarge! 
    Sounds silly now but back then it was fun hehe .
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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Dallas, TXMember RarePosts: 1,317
    Having to manage soul shards and soul shard bags. Same with ammo pouches for hunters.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Ft. Bliss, TXMember EpicPosts: 5,235
    rush1984 said:
    Name 5 things that will make the wotlk'ers and onwards spit their dummies out if they play classic wow when the server launches.

    I'l go first 

    1. No lfg 
    2. No heirlooms
    3. Running everywhere
    4. Having to drink mana water
    5. Having to use CC

    I can think of more can you? 
    First of all, why would anyone playing the current version of WoW play on a classic server? I thought it was obvious the ones who wanted Classic aren't even playing WoW at the moment.

  • RhoklawRhoklaw Ft. Bliss, TXMember EpicPosts: 5,235
    DMKano said:
    The noobs will probably like it.

    when nostalgia wears off the vets will be leaving in droves.

    The thing with classic servers - for majority they are a flash in the pan, because after a couple of weeks the feeling "I've done all this before" hits you hard.

    It will be interesting to see how long people last on classic servers before quitting, because deja-vu is cool at first, but fades fast.

    You've been using that argument nonstop in almost every thread, but I don't see where you are coming up with your ultimate wisdom. I keep telling you every time, EQ, DAoC, EMU server galore have proven people enjoy games that aren't dumbed down.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Ft. Bliss, TXMember EpicPosts: 5,235
    DMKano said:
    rush1984 said:
    DMKano said:
    The noobs will probably like it.

    when nostalgia wears off the vets will be leaving in droves.

    The thing with classic servers - for majority they are a flash in the pan, because after a couple of weeks the feeling "I've done all this before" hits you hard.

    It will be interesting to see how long people last on classic servers before quitting, because deja-vu is cool at first, but fades fast.

    But thousands played on private servers like nos me included for very long time 60 priest 60 hunter 60 druid , and I still think it' best mmorpg around and I first played wow early 2005


    And those thousands are representative of a minority. 

    What % of 12million players will play classic servers at all? 

    What % will play for more than 1 month? 3months? 6?

    You are going to find very rapidly dwindling numbers as time goes on
    WoW doesn't even have 12 million subscribers, WTF. They have like 5-6 million on a good month and maybe double that during expansion extravaganza for 3 months. In response to your claim that numbers will dwindle, of course it will, just like every other game ever launched does. No one is claiming there's millions waiting for Classic servers, but theres enough to warrant at least one or two, if not more. Did SOE or Mythic Entertainment make classic servers for the huge profits? No. They did it cause it's smart business to maintain customer satisfaction even if profits may be minimal.
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  • cheyanecheyane EarthMember EpicPosts: 4,866
    edited November 5
    I think what he is saying is there will be a decent number but that there would be a large drop off after the initial surge in population. It is true I also think the servers will drop off and it will have a population but nowhere close to the number that try it initially and there will be a steady population that will stay.

    However WoW has one advantage over the Project 1999 server in that end game content is not locked up by a few guilds making it impossible for others to enjoy the end game raids. In this respect the server will not be full of people so fed up once they reach top level .

    People playing a game with no end game raid instances must accept that they will never see the end game content and be satisfied with that. I have when I originally played Everquest got even my epic so that aspect is not going to upset me but surely not everyone is happy with that.

    DMKano is not wrong and anyway the proof is in the pudding we just have to wait.
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  • RhoklawRhoklaw Ft. Bliss, TXMember EpicPosts: 5,235
    cheyane said:
    I think what he is saying is there will be a decent number but that there would be a large drop off after the initial surge in population. It is true I also think the servers will drop off and it will have a population but nowhere close to the number that try it initially and there will be a steady population that will stay.

    However WoW has one advantage over the Project 1999 server in that end game content is not locked up by a few guilds making it impossible for others to enjoy the end game raids. In this respect the server will not be full of people so fed up once they reach top level .

    People playing a game with no end game raid instances must accept that they will never see the end game content and be satisfied with that. I have when I originally played Everquest got even my epic so that aspect is not going to upset me but surely not everyone is happy with that.

    DMKano is not wrong and anyway the proof is in the pudding we just have to wait.
    Except the private WoW servers beg to differ. I'm not sure how much evidence you need to realize, Classic WoW servers have been desired for a while now. Not to mention a lot of people that thought about private servers did not like the idea of servers going bye bye and losing all their progression. Than again, everyone making these claims were also the same people that said Blizzard would never make a WoW Classic server and guess what, it happened.
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  • AkulasAkulas GoldcoastMember UncommonPosts: 2,092
    Corpse run, resource management, cc abilities, lfg spam, manually walking to instances. Don't forget to actually run away from trains.

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  • TeleboasTeleboas Centralia, ILMember UncommonPosts: 184
    I'm probably in the minority, but I'm looking forward to this because I can finally try WoW starting from where I remember leaving off!

    I played WoW when it first came out, but only stayed for a few months (I ended up going to EQ2 and playing it for years).  I never went back because I hate being the "noob" in the group that hadn't been there already for years.
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 7,821
    edited November 5
    As someone who has never played WoW I may give this one a shot as long as its not on rails. ;)


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    The thing with classic servers - for majority they are a flash in the pan, because after a couple of weeks the feeling "I've done all this before" hits you hard.





    This is why I never even tried Lineage 2 Classic when it came out because I had no interest in doing what I had already did before. 


    What keeps people playing mmos is the sense of wonder of whats next. When you already know whats next your passion to log on will fade. 


    I have never played WoW so I might try it. 
  • Branko2307Branko2307 PlanescapeMember UncommonPosts: 298
    Rhoklaw said:
    cheyane said:
    I think what he is saying is there will be a decent number but that there would be a large drop off after the initial surge in population. It is true I also think the servers will drop off and it will have a population but nowhere close to the number that try it initially and there will be a steady population that will stay.

    However WoW has one advantage over the Project 1999 server in that end game content is not locked up by a few guilds making it impossible for others to enjoy the end game raids. In this respect the server will not be full of people so fed up once they reach top level .

    People playing a game with no end game raid instances must accept that they will never see the end game content and be satisfied with that. I have when I originally played Everquest got even my epic so that aspect is not going to upset me but surely not everyone is happy with that.

    DMKano is not wrong and anyway the proof is in the pudding we just have to wait.
    Except the private WoW servers beg to differ. I'm not sure how much evidence you need to realize, Classic WoW servers have been desired for a while now. Not to mention a lot of people that thought about private servers did not like the idea of servers going bye bye and losing all their progression. Than again, everyone making these claims were also the same people that said Blizzard would never make a WoW Classic server and guess what, it happened.
    You hit the nail right on the head here, people were playing Vanilla private server since TBC and they were allways full, salty ppl that never belived it would come are now trying to recover some of their lost ego by bashing it, too bad they are as bad at bashing it as they are bad at predictions.
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  • zymurgeistzymurgeist Pittsville, VAMember UncommonPosts: 5,407
    edited November 5
    The real question is the market ready to go back to when people actually grouped up and talked to each other? A fifteen minute group for fast progression is fine but grouping up for a couple of hours to grind some xp in a single location is much more social. The most important difference between vanilla and current WoW is the pacing not the expanded content. 
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  • ShodanasShodanas PatrasMember RarePosts: 1,852
    edited November 5
    rush1984 said:
    Name 5 things that will make the wotlk'ers and onwards spit their dummies out if they play classic wow when the server launches.

    I'l go first 

    1. No lfg 
    2. No heirlooms
    3. Running everywhere
    4. Having to drink mana water
    5. Having to use CC

    I can think of more can you? 
    I guess that you missed the point where Hazzikostas stated that WoW Classic will stand upon the modern WoW infrastructure. With everything that implies.
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  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKMember LegendaryPosts: 16,979
    Rhoklaw said:
    cheyane said:
    I think what he is saying is there will be a decent number but that there would be a large drop off after the initial surge in population. It is true I also think the servers will drop off and it will have a population but nowhere close to the number that try it initially and there will be a steady population that will stay.

    However WoW has one advantage over the Project 1999 server in that end game content is not locked up by a few guilds making it impossible for others to enjoy the end game raids. In this respect the server will not be full of people so fed up once they reach top level .

    People playing a game with no end game raid instances must accept that they will never see the end game content and be satisfied with that. I have when I originally played Everquest got even my epic so that aspect is not going to upset me but surely not everyone is happy with that.

    DMKano is not wrong and anyway the proof is in the pudding we just have to wait.
    Except the private WoW servers beg to differ. I'm not sure how much evidence you need to realize, Classic WoW servers have been desired for a while now. Not to mention a lot of people that thought about private servers did not like the idea of servers going bye bye and losing all their progression. Than again, everyone making these claims were also the same people that said Blizzard would never make a WoW Classic server and guess what, it happened.
    You hit the nail right on the head here, people were playing Vanilla private server since TBC and they were allways full, salty ppl that never belived it would come are now trying to recover some of their lost ego by bashing it, too bad they are as bad at bashing it as they are bad at predictions.


    They were free to play.

    Go slap a $15 monthly on those servers and see how full they are.
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  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaMember EpicPosts: 13,114
    Having to do  meaningless quests to get a level and experience towards your class/skills.

    Wrong game design if trying to portray a ROLE playing game.

    No lfg?? lol since when do you need a group to do solo quests?It only became a thing when players were done with quests and just raided 24/7,so at no point does the immersive part of the game ever act like a role playing game.

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  • VorpalChicken28VorpalChicken28 UKMember UncommonPosts: 340
    DMKano said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    cheyane said:
    I think what he is saying is there will be a decent number but that there would be a large drop off after the initial surge in population. It is true I also think the servers will drop off and it will have a population but nowhere close to the number that try it initially and there will be a steady population that will stay.

    However WoW has one advantage over the Project 1999 server in that end game content is not locked up by a few guilds making it impossible for others to enjoy the end game raids. In this respect the server will not be full of people so fed up once they reach top level .

    People playing a game with no end game raid instances must accept that they will never see the end game content and be satisfied with that. I have when I originally played Everquest got even my epic so that aspect is not going to upset me but surely not everyone is happy with that.

    DMKano is not wrong and anyway the proof is in the pudding we just have to wait.
    Except the private WoW servers beg to differ. I'm not sure how much evidence you need to realize, Classic WoW servers have been desired for a while now. Not to mention a lot of people that thought about private servers did not like the idea of servers going bye bye and losing all their progression. Than again, everyone making these claims were also the same people that said Blizzard would never make a WoW Classic server and guess what, it happened.
    You hit the nail right on the head here, people were playing Vanilla private server since TBC and they were allways full, salty ppl that never belived it would come are now trying to recover some of their lost ego by bashing it, too bad they are as bad at bashing it as they are bad at predictions.


    They were free to play.

    Go slap a $15 monthly on those servers and see how full they are.
    Yeah, Daybreak slapped a $15 on playing their progression servers and surprise surprise, they were pretty much full, kinda blows your argument out of the water
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  • Leguma11Leguma11 BucharestMember UncommonPosts: 19
    If the feeling of 'I have done all of this before' and 'I have experienced better gameplay from Raving Rabbits'  doesn't hit you then ... I'm so sorry to say ... you sir are a MemberBerry ... 

    A form a RetroFuk * people living in the past cause it to hard to accept change or to want something new and fresh .

    I played WoW Vanilla - And I liked it ....................................IN 2004 ! I SINCE THEN I MATURED AND SO DID MY TASTES IN GAMING ! -  YOU LIKE RETRO GAMING SO MUCH BOOOT UP PONG YA DUMBASSes ..... 

    I swear , I had so meany arguments about this shit behavior .... Don't you want something NEW , IMMERSIVE , NICE GRAPHICS , A  STORY THATS ACTUALLY INTERESTING - Nothing of what I said are present in your ... 2004 WoW Vanilla ..... 

    I know we all have different tastes ... but wanting wow classic is just borderline insane .... Yeah I want to relive the experience of pressing 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 to kill the X so that Y won't drop cause ( Vanilla wow ) Also we all know how IMMERSIVE and GOOD LOOKING Vanilla WoW is .... you could look past the Visuals if it at least had some interesting GAMEPLAY .... 

    I don't know whats wrong with you people .... But I know its your Mentality that the Devs profit off ... Ohhh they will gobble up the same game released 10 years ago Muahahahhah Memberberrys !! ....

    Just like Secret World Legends .... Same tactic ... Hey its 'NEW ' and 'UPDATED' :))) ...... Must be so sad to have such low standards for FUN ! .... But I guess working at a job where you 'grind' / do the same thing - you can't wait to get into a game and grind/do the same thing again :)

    Have Phun you sad peeps .....

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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,669
    edited November 5
    Whew, good thing the "mature" gamers finally arrived to post here.

    LULZ.

    ;)
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  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKMember LegendaryPosts: 16,979
    edited November 5
    DMKano said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    cheyane said:
    I think what he is saying is there will be a decent number but that there would be a large drop off after the initial surge in population. It is true I also think the servers will drop off and it will have a population but nowhere close to the number that try it initially and there will be a steady population that will stay.

    However WoW has one advantage over the Project 1999 server in that end game content is not locked up by a few guilds making it impossible for others to enjoy the end game raids. In this respect the server will not be full of people so fed up once they reach top level .

    People playing a game with no end game raid instances must accept that they will never see the end game content and be satisfied with that. I have when I originally played Everquest got even my epic so that aspect is not going to upset me but surely not everyone is happy with that.

    DMKano is not wrong and anyway the proof is in the pudding we just have to wait.
    Except the private WoW servers beg to differ. I'm not sure how much evidence you need to realize, Classic WoW servers have been desired for a while now. Not to mention a lot of people that thought about private servers did not like the idea of servers going bye bye and losing all their progression. Than again, everyone making these claims were also the same people that said Blizzard would never make a WoW Classic server and guess what, it happened.
    You hit the nail right on the head here, people were playing Vanilla private server since TBC and they were allways full, salty ppl that never belived it would come are now trying to recover some of their lost ego by bashing it, too bad they are as bad at bashing it as they are bad at predictions.


    They were free to play.

    Go slap a $15 monthly on those servers and see how full they are.
    Yeah, Daybreak slapped a $15 on playing their progression servers and surprise surprise, they were pretty much full, kinda blows your argument out of the water

    Umm they were - go look how full they are now.

    Put all the progression servers together at peak time Sat and Sun night - Agnarr is the only one showing high.

    1 server - yeap - so much for high popularity, as ab EQ1 server holds less than 4000 players.

    Super popular....


    Meanwhile P99 still has about 4-6K players at peak. Again - the numbers are SMALL


    Also my argument stands - as my argument is putting a price on servers that are currently FREE, so a huge % of players wouldn drop if that happened  - which is true.

    So my argument stands up 100%.

    What you are arguing is different - your argument shows that there is a small number of players willing to pay for progression servers.

    At the same time there is a small number willing to play P99 for free.
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  • ScorchienScorchien Hatboro, PAMember EpicPosts: 4,030
    edited November 5
    DMKano said:
    DMKano said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    cheyane said:
    I think what he is saying is there will be a decent number but that there would be a large drop off after the initial surge in population. It is true I also think the servers will drop off and it will have a population but nowhere close to the number that try it initially and there will be a steady population that will stay.

    However WoW has one advantage over the Project 1999 server in that end game content is not locked up by a few guilds making it impossible for others to enjoy the end game raids. In this respect the server will not be full of people so fed up once they reach top level .

    People playing a game with no end game raid instances must accept that they will never see the end game content and be satisfied with that. I have when I originally played Everquest got even my epic so that aspect is not going to upset me but surely not everyone is happy with that.

    DMKano is not wrong and anyway the proof is in the pudding we just have to wait.
    Except the private WoW servers beg to differ. I'm not sure how much evidence you need to realize, Classic WoW servers have been desired for a while now. Not to mention a lot of people that thought about private servers did not like the idea of servers going bye bye and losing all their progression. Than again, everyone making these claims were also the same people that said Blizzard would never make a WoW Classic server and guess what, it happened.
    You hit the nail right on the head here, people were playing Vanilla private server since TBC and they were allways full, salty ppl that never belived it would come are now trying to recover some of their lost ego by bashing it, too bad they are as bad at bashing it as they are bad at predictions.


    They were free to play.

    Go slap a $15 monthly on those servers and see how full they are.
    Yeah, Daybreak slapped a $15 on playing their progression servers and surprise surprise, they were pretty much full, kinda blows your argument out of the water

    Umm they were - go look how full they are now.

    Put all the progression servers together at peak time Sat and Sun night - Agnarr is the only one showing high.

    1 server - yeap - so much for high popularity, as ab EQ1 server holds less than 4000 players.

    Super popular....


    Meanwhile P99 still has about 4-6K players at peak. Again - the numbers are SMALL


    Also my argument stands - as my argument is puttinflg a  price on servers that are currently FREE, so a huge % of players wouldn drop if that happened which is true.
    Altho i agree 100% that a sub on the pirate servers , would no doubt cause numbers to drop ..

      I also think that , and this relative to your EQ estimates .. but if EQ can support 2 classic servers and EQ has literally 1% of the following and fanbase of Wow , Wow should be able to sustain at least 6-10 classic servers ...Most likely substantially more than that ...
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  • DemogorgonDemogorgon New York, NYMember UncommonPosts: 291
    edited November 5
    Leguma11 said:
    ...

    I swear , I had so meany arguments about this shit behavior .... Don't you want something NEW , IMMERSIVE , NICE GRAPHICS , A  STORY THATS ACTUALLY INTERESTING - Nothing of what I said are present in your ... 2004 WoW Vanilla ..... 

    ...

    Have Phun you sad peeps .....

    By NEW, you mean REHASHED and DILLUTED.

    By IMMERSIVE, you mean NONE of the MMO of TODAY are. They're ALL CA$H$HOP driven.

    BY NICE GRAPHIC, you mean with EVERTHING else being DUMB DOWN.

    By A STORY THATS ACTU... Wait a sec here! What the effing Fuk are you talking about. Are you that DILLUSIONAL?

    ...

    I think you're a sad sheep.... 
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  • KellerKeller UtrechtMember UncommonPosts: 423
    My mailbox has exploded since Friday. Email is so 2004, I know. However around 20 old friends and guildmates will return to play on Classic Server. Most of them bring their wife/husband, children, grandchildren or nephews/nieces. So that's 30+ paying players. Our old guild can't be alone in this. Then there's a good chunk of players who never got the chance to play Vanilla. The twitch slaves, players who follow the hype. How can anyone think there will not be enough players interested in Classic Servers and willingly to pay a subscription? 

    We all know gameplay was not that special. We all know it will be a trip down memory lane. Yet we remember the good side about Vanilla, friendships & playing together. Maybe after 3 months most of us will be gone again, but Blizzard will have their investment covered plus some healthy profit to show the shareholders. Meanwhile World of Warcraft is making the headlines, people are talking about it again. People are excited. Can't remember the last time a MMO created such a buzz. Can't think of any other MMO I want to play in release state.


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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCMember LegendaryPosts: 10,202
    It would be interesting for me to see how much I have changed over the years. I went to WOW at release after spending a few years in DAoC and then taking a break from MMOs for a while.

    I found it ridiculously easy and full of conveniences I had never seen in DaoC :)

    But I'm probably just as spoiled by the new MMOs these days as most everyone else.

    It'll be fun to check out just for that reason.
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