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The Corsair Scimitar RGB MMO Gaming Mouse is the stalwart tech company’s own entry into the MMO mouse arena, with 12 buttons on the side and 17 total buttons for extensive control options. It’s Corsair’s answer to the Logitech G600, the Razer Naga, and the Roccat Nyth. But how does it stack up? Turns out, really damn well. Read on for our full review.

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  • hirezkinghirezking Fresno, CAMember UncommonPosts: 4
    Only downfall is not the mouse it self but the software it uses. Crashes have plagued the software and each updates still dont address the issue. Sometimes when I wake computer from sleep mode it doesnt initialize the mouse no matter what usb port I have it in. So i have to plug and unplug the mouse. So for the CUE software it needs a ton of work but the mouse it self is great and I love it over my old Razer.
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  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,368
    That sliding button feature is an excellent idea, taking into account different hand sizes and preferred grip positions.
    I will be happy to give a review of this - from the free sample shamelessly being begged for here :-)
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Southern IllinoisMember RarePosts: 1,806
    edited August 12
    hirezking said:
    Only downfall is not the mouse it self but the software it uses. Crashes have plagued the software and each updates still dont address the issue. Sometimes when I wake computer from sleep mode it doesnt initialize the mouse no matter what usb port I have it in. So i have to plug and unplug the mouse. So for the CUE software it needs a ton of work but the mouse it self is great and I love it over my old Razer.
    When I saw the moveable thumb keypad I was ready to buy. After reading this ad I went to NewEgg to check out the reviews. Not good. Many people saying the same things about the software as you are. If you are forced to install software to get a mouse or keyboard to work out of the box that's a big no-no. I'll stick to my Naga. No extraneous software needed.

    EDIT: Here is the store page with reviews https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826816047

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  • metarealmetareal StrasbourgMember UncommonPosts: 8
    edited August 12

    hirezking said:

    Only downfall is not the mouse it self but the software it uses. Crashes have plagued the software and each updates still dont address the issue. Sometimes when I wake computer from sleep mode it doesnt initialize the mouse no matter what usb port I have it in. So i have to plug and unplug the mouse. So for the CUE software it needs a ton of work but the mouse it self is great and I love it over my old Razer.



    Maybe it's possible to not use the custom software and use Autohotkey instead which is great to customize input devices.
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  • joewolf79joewolf79 Junction City, KSMember UncommonPosts: 9
    I actually bought one of these to try to step up from a 5 button mouse to an mmo mouse. Sadly after spending a week trying to get used to it I had to go back to my old mouse. Despite being lighter than my other mouse it just doesn't glide as well across my mouse pad. It's large back end and overall height made it feel awkward to hold. And I couldn't find a grip that allowed me to pick it up without pressing the side buttons. I don't have anything bad to say about the quality, it just seems like it was designed for someone who has very different hands than I do.
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing Editor Berea, OHMMORPG.COM Staff EpicPosts: 4,028
    That's a problem with all mice. This one fits my hand really well, without having to move the keys much at all.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,361
    bartoni33 said:
    hirezking said:
    Only downfall is not the mouse it self but the software it uses. Crashes have plagued the software and each updates still dont address the issue. Sometimes when I wake computer from sleep mode it doesnt initialize the mouse no matter what usb port I have it in. So i have to plug and unplug the mouse. So for the CUE software it needs a ton of work but the mouse it self is great and I love it over my old Razer.
    When I saw the moveable thumb keypad I was ready to buy. After reading this ad I went to NewEgg to check out the reviews. Not good. Many people saying the same things about the software as you are. If you are forced to install software to get a mouse or keyboard to work out of the box that's a big no-no. I'll stick to my Naga. No extraneous software needed.

    EDIT: Here is the store page with reviews https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826816047

    I have a Corsair mouse and keyboard and the CUE software is excellent. In the house we have Razer and Logitech peripherals too with their associated software and CUE is a dream by comparison. In the 5 or 6 months I've owned them the software hasn't crashed or caused me issues once. Logitech (LGS) hasn't ever caused issues either, but Razer's has caused issues in the past, but not recently.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,361
    Also you don't need the software for the keyboard and mouse to work. You need it to address the button above MB5. That's true for any multibutton mouse with input greater than MB5. It doesn't matter if it's Razer, Logitech, or Steelseries.

    There are a lot of "gaming" mice being made that don't have more than 2 extra buttons so they don't have to put any effort into making software that enables full functionality on their mice. It's a cheap way for hardware makers to sell expensive gaming mice that aren't really gaming mice.
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Southern IllinoisMember RarePosts: 1,806
    Torval said:
    Also you don't need the software for the keyboard and mouse to work. You need it to address the button above MB5. That's true for any multibutton mouse with input greater than MB5. It doesn't matter if it's Razer, Logitech, or Steelseries.

    There are a lot of "gaming" mice being made that don't have more than 2 extra buttons so they don't have to put any effort into making software that enables full functionality on their mice. It's a cheap way for hardware makers to sell expensive gaming mice that aren't really gaming mice.
    According to a few reviews I've seen you have to use the software for any of the thumb keys to work. That was what I found to be silly. I hope they were wrong. My Naga works out of the box without any software. You only need to install it to change the colors on the mouse and for any macros you want to use. I can't comment on how good or bad Razer software is because I have never installed it for either my mouse or my keyboard (Blackwidow Tournament Stealth).

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,361
    bartoni33 said:
    Torval said:
    Also you don't need the software for the keyboard and mouse to work. You need it to address the button above MB5. That's true for any multibutton mouse with input greater than MB5. It doesn't matter if it's Razer, Logitech, or Steelseries.

    There are a lot of "gaming" mice being made that don't have more than 2 extra buttons so they don't have to put any effort into making software that enables full functionality on their mice. It's a cheap way for hardware makers to sell expensive gaming mice that aren't really gaming mice.
    According to a few reviews I've seen you have to use the software for any of the thumb keys to work. That was what I found to be silly. I hope they were wrong. My Naga works out of the box without any software. You only need to install it to change the colors on the mouse and for any macros you want to use. I can't comment on how good or bad Razer software is because I have never installed it for either my mouse or my keyboard (Blackwidow Tournament Stealth).
    You can program your Naga keys inside any game without Synapse? I find that hard to believe or we wouldn't have installed Synapse here after it originally fought with nVidia's GeForce Experience and some games with anticheat software. My entire foray down the rabbit hole of third party vendor software started with multibutton mice and needing it just to address those buttons.

    A specific piece of software can have drivers for a specific piece of hardware and so there could be a game where Naga programability works out of the box. Diablo 3 does that with my Corsair K70 LUX, but that's because Blizzard wrote that functionality into the game. Most games don't work like that.
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Southern IllinoisMember RarePosts: 1,806
    Torval said:
    bartoni33 said:
    Torval said:
    Also you don't need the software for the keyboard and mouse to work. You need it to address the button above MB5. That's true for any multibutton mouse with input greater than MB5. It doesn't matter if it's Razer, Logitech, or Steelseries.

    There are a lot of "gaming" mice being made that don't have more than 2 extra buttons so they don't have to put any effort into making software that enables full functionality on their mice. It's a cheap way for hardware makers to sell expensive gaming mice that aren't really gaming mice.
    According to a few reviews I've seen you have to use the software for any of the thumb keys to work. That was what I found to be silly. I hope they were wrong. My Naga works out of the box without any software. You only need to install it to change the colors on the mouse and for any macros you want to use. I can't comment on how good or bad Razer software is because I have never installed it for either my mouse or my keyboard (Blackwidow Tournament Stealth).
    You can program your Naga keys inside any game without Synapse? I find that hard to believe or we wouldn't have installed Synapse here after it originally fought with nVidia's GeForce Experience and some games with anticheat software. My entire foray down the rabbit hole of third party vendor software started with multibutton mice and needing it just to address those buttons.

    A specific piece of software can have drivers for a specific piece of hardware and so there could be a game where Naga programability works out of the box. Diablo 3 does that with my Corsair K70 LUX, but that's because Blizzard wrote that functionality into the game. Most games don't work like that.
    I'm not sure what you are asking. :/

    Yes you can program all the keys in any game like any other mouse. I have a switch on the bottom of my Naga that chooses between the top row number keys and the Number Pad keys for the 12 thumb buttons (great for me because I have a tenkeyless keyboard). So whatever you program those number keys to in-game will work on the thumb keys. Out of the box the two little buttons below the scroll wheel page forward and back on web pages too. I have owned 2 versions of the Naga and one keyboard and have never installed the software.

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,361
    edited August 12
    What do you use to program button number 9 for example or how do you program those without software?
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Southern IllinoisMember RarePosts: 1,806
    edited August 12
    Torval said:
    What do you use to program button number 9 for example or how do you program those without software?
    For instance:

    In ESO I have the 5 ability keys mapped to numbers 4-8 instead of 1-5 because it's easier to reach those keys with my thumb because of my claw grip on the mouse (hence being interested in the OP mouse). In your instance I would just map 9 to say the ultimate ability in-game. The game itself dictates what the thumb buttons correspond to. No outside software needed.

    EDIT: To clarify: To map 9 to ultimate I would go into key settings, click on the ultimate to choose what key to remap it to, then press 9 on my thumb button.

    EDIT TWO; ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: I can even use the thumb keys to type in the corresponding numbers into text files and web pages like this post out of the box.
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  • XingbairongXingbairong SofiaMember UncommonPosts: 328
    I gave up on multibutton mice a while back.
    After my previous mouse' right button started acting up I decided that it's time to "throw some money". I won't name the name of the mice, but overall I bought 9... first I bought 1, didn't like it, returned it and asked to change it to another model... repeated that 8 times and realized that literally not a single one of these mice fitted me + the store said that they aren't going to allow any more returns lol :P
    What I did was get $15 and go to the nearest hardware store and got myself a nice $15 Hama uRage something something mouse.... Couldn't be happier with it :D

    It really comes down to personal preference, heck not even preference, but "feeling". Some people find these mice comfortable other like me will always find something that they don't like. Whether it's the way it feels to the touch, the position of the keys, weight, the way it slides or (like in 90% of my cases) the laser responsiveness.
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing Editor Berea, OHMMORPG.COM Staff EpicPosts: 4,028

    bartoni33 said:


    Torval said:

    Also you don't need the software for the keyboard and mouse to work. You need it to address the button above MB5. That's true for any multibutton mouse with input greater than MB5. It doesn't matter if it's Razer, Logitech, or Steelseries.

    There are a lot of "gaming" mice being made that don't have more than 2 extra buttons so they don't have to put any effort into making software that enables full functionality on their mice. It's a cheap way for hardware makers to sell expensive gaming mice that aren't really gaming mice.


    According to a few reviews I've seen you have to use the software for any of the thumb keys to work. That was what I found to be silly. I hope they were wrong. My Naga works out of the box without any software. You only need to install it to change the colors on the mouse and for any macros you want to use. I can't comment on how good or bad Razer software is because I have never installed it for either my mouse or my keyboard (Blackwidow Tournament Stealth).



    That's not true. I don't use the CUE software and all the keys work fine.
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  • Loke666Loke666 KalmarMember EpicPosts: 20,779
    hirezking said:
    Only downfall is not the mouse it self but the software it uses. Crashes have plagued the software and each updates still dont address the issue. Sometimes when I wake computer from sleep mode it doesnt initialize the mouse no matter what usb port I have it in. So i have to plug and unplug the mouse. So for the CUE software it needs a ton of work but the mouse it self is great and I love it over my old Razer.
    Yeah, same problem with my keyboard that uses the same program. It crashes and bugs a lot.

    I am not certain why a mouse need RGB functions though... I can buy that it can be good on a keyboard, you can actually have the keys have specific lights in the game you are playing depending on it's functions and that at least is somewhat useful. With a mouse the only thing I can figure is if you really want everything in the house X-mas themed and glowing.
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,361
    bartoni33 said:
    Torval said:
    What do you use to program button number 9 for example or how do you program those without software?
    For instance:

    In ESO I have the 5 ability keys mapped to numbers 4-8 instead of 1-5 because it's easier to reach those keys with my thumb because of my claw grip on the mouse (hence being interested in the OP mouse). In your instance I would just map 9 to say the ultimate ability in-game. The game itself dictates what the thumb buttons correspond to. No outside software needed.

    EDIT: To clarify: To map 9 to ultimate I would go into key settings, click on the ultimate to choose what key to remap it to, then press 9 on my thumb button.

    EDIT TWO; ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: I can even use the thumb keys to type in the corresponding numbers into text files and web pages like this post out of the box.
    Okay, that's strange because the Corsair (on the desktop) and the Razer (for the laptop) multibutton mice won't do that. They aren' the mmo mice.  The Corsair is the Sabre and I don't know which model the Razer is, but it's not the mmo mouse.

    It makes me wonder if this mouse style has something different in the firmware or if there is something else affecting this. I had a Logitech G700s before this and it worked the same as my current two mice. Do you know why there would be a difference since they're all USB HID compliant pnp devices?
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  • Keldor837Keldor837 Syracuse, NYMember UncommonPosts: 222
    I previously was a big fan of Corsair's m90 series mouses. But after awhile, a glaring issue came about. The style they use for the standard right and left mouse clicks is very unforgiving for steady/frequent use. It is suspended only by its own weight and the "button" that registers the click is not found near the tip of the button. Meaning that with every few thousand clicks. The plastic bounces back less and creates negative feedback due to the inputs position under the clicker.

    After the m90 series. Corsair has started using cheaper plastics which has increased this issue with their design. If you are a casual player or even moderate. Then you probably won't notice. But for those that play long hours and/or high APM games. You'll kill the clicker on this really fast and that's not covered by the warranty.

    GAMDIAS uses a similar click design but solved the wearing issue years ago. Their mice have a plastic spike that goes into the body of the mouse and presses a switch. The spike has to be pressed through two opposing springs to achieve contact. So even if the plastic button wears and is less responsive. The metal springs will start taking the load of bouncing it back and keeping it from resting on the switch. Making for a longer-lasting mouse. I've had my GAMDIAS Zeus GMS1100 for four years. Never has a gaming mouse lasted more than a year for me (I play lots of League of Legends) prior to this mouse. Unfortunately, GAMDIAS hasn't been able to break into the industry well and they haven't made another higher-end mouse recently.

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  • WoeToTheVanquishedWoeToTheVanquished USA #1, ILMember UncommonPosts: 165
    what an unnecessarily ugly mouse
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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Southern IllinoisMember RarePosts: 1,806




    bartoni33 said:




    Torval said:


    Also you don't need the software for the keyboard and mouse to work. You need it to address the button above MB5. That's true for any multibutton mouse with input greater than MB5. It doesn't matter if it's Razer, Logitech, or Steelseries.

    There are a lot of "gaming" mice being made that don't have more than 2 extra buttons so they don't have to put any effort into making software that enables full functionality on their mice. It's a cheap way for hardware makers to sell expensive gaming mice that aren't really gaming mice.




    According to a few reviews I've seen you have to use the software for any of the thumb keys to work. That was what I found to be silly. I hope they were wrong. My Naga works out of the box without any software. You only need to install it to change the colors on the mouse and for any macros you want to use. I can't comment on how good or bad Razer software is because I have never installed it for either my mouse or my keyboard (Blackwidow Tournament Stealth).






    That's not true. I don't use the CUE software and all the keys work fine.



    Good to know. Thank you for clearing that up.

    I do have a question. Have you used the Razer Naga before? If so does the Scimitar thumb buttons move toward the back of the mouse farther than the Naga keys are? With my claw grip on my Naga my thumb naturally rests on the 7 and 10 keys. I would really be interested in the Scimitar if the keys were farther back where my thumb naturally rest on say the 4 and 7 keys at least.

    @Torval both mice I have used have been the Naga's so I'm not sure on the firmware aspects of a non-Naga one.
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  • ccmclaughccmclaugh Bloomfield Hills, MIMember UncommonPosts: 29
    [WARNING] Don't buy this mouse. It uses an optical sensor that does not track well. For example, open up a program like Paint and try to draw a diagonal line. You will instead get a random diagonal stair step pattern.

    I was a sucker and bought the Corsair mouse to replace my Razer Naga, which uses a precision laser for tracking. At first I didn't understand why the mouse didn't track properly. I tried firmware and software updates, new mouse pads, and even replaced the mouse with a new one. I finally found out that Corsair uses sub-standard optical tracking that is highly imprecise. It's a shame, because everything else about the Corsair mouse is great. Corsair screwed up the most basic function of a mouse: accurate tracking.
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  • Siris23Siris23 Minneapolis, MNMember UncommonPosts: 278
    edited August 13
    I've owned 2 Nagas, a G600 and a Scimitar and the Scimitar wins by a long shot.

    The Nagas were easy to use but both died very quickly, one with a bad scroll wheel and one just stopped responding (cord go extremely hot). For the money these mice should last for years not a few months.

    The G600 was a very nice mouse but it was just too wide, if you claw grip your mouse like I do your hand will probably start cramping up in less than an hour of game time.

    So far the Scimitar has ticked all the right boxes for me, good fit, well built and I've been using it for over a year and no major issues. Though I did have the same issue a a previous post where the side buttons wouldn't work in games unless I created a Cue macro for each but that didn't take long to fix.

    Edit: If the Nagas hadn't died they would have been very slightly better than the Scimitar.
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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing Editor Berea, OHMMORPG.COM Staff EpicPosts: 4,028

    bartoni33 said:








    bartoni33 said:






    Torval said:



    Also you don't need the software for the keyboard and mouse to work. You need it to address the button above MB5. That's true for any multibutton mouse with input greater than MB5. It doesn't matter if it's Razer, Logitech, or Steelseries.

    There are a lot of "gaming" mice being made that don't have more than 2 extra buttons so they don't have to put any effort into making software that enables full functionality on their mice. It's a cheap way for hardware makers to sell expensive gaming mice that aren't really gaming mice.






    According to a few reviews I've seen you have to use the software for any of the thumb keys to work. That was what I found to be silly. I hope they were wrong. My Naga works out of the box without any software. You only need to install it to change the colors on the mouse and for any macros you want to use. I can't comment on how good or bad Razer software is because I have never installed it for either my mouse or my keyboard (Blackwidow Tournament Stealth).









    That's not true. I don't use the CUE software and all the keys work fine.






    Good to know. Thank you for clearing that up.



    I do have a question. Have you used the Razer Naga before? If so does the Scimitar thumb buttons move toward the back of the mouse farther than the Naga keys are? With my claw grip on my Naga my thumb naturally rests on the 7 and 10 keys. I would really be interested in the Scimitar if the keys were farther back where my thumb naturally rest on say the 4 and 7 keys at least.



    @Torval both mice I have used have been the Naga's so I'm not sure on the firmware aspects of a non-Naga one.



    I have a naga too. Let me compare, but I think the Corsair moves further back.
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  • esc-joconnoresc-joconnor TokyoMember UncommonPosts: 467
    I also found that my corsair mouse came with the thumb buttons set to nothing, and often on reboot they are back to nothing again, unlike other Logitech and Razer/Nostromo peripherals that I find set the keys in the firmware and so remain unchanged on other machines even. I also have problems with the software freezing on launch and the mouse not being recognized. I have 3 PCs that I have changed and upgraded overtime to play with my 2 teenage sons, and have used many mice over the years, the past few mmorpg mice exclusively, I will never buy a Corsair again.
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  • xDarkjoyxDarkjoy Stafford, VAMember UncommonPosts: 73
    Naga wins because Synapse is superior software compared to the others. Simple as that for me.
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