Shadow Of War: microtransactions!

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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 22,881
    Gorwe said:
    Moxom914 said:
    i will not only buy the game but spend money on transactions as well. i work hard for my money and spend a lot on games. gamers now are all butthurt pussies. they dont make you spend money so if you dont want to then dont. i apologize if this comment hurt any snowflakes feelings.
    You sir are a weak willed moron(favorite kind for corporations, mind you). Nobody cares whether you earn 1000$ or 100000$ per month. But if you're not careful, you could spoil it for other people you know? And then, when the shit hits the fan, people like you are the loudest screeching monkeys. "We'll see what happens" -> "NO! Have some common sense and don't invoke doom upon yourself{and us all}?"
    This goes back to my "we're not a club".

    Someone is always going to "look askance" at what another does.

    I'm pretty sure we both could look into each other lives and find at least one thing that we disapprove of.

    If he finds value or fun in several of the micro-transactions then that's pretty much it.

    I mean, you spend money on video games and I have some (wonderful) friends who think that's a complete waste of money. Should I take their advice and spend that money on something else?

    No I say!

    I can see the slippery slope in making the game impossible to play unless one buys from the in game store but I suspect that won't happen. At least not yet. At the moment, if they make it so that you have to purchase bits and bobs then the game is going to get a bad review because it's going to be touted as unplayable.

    As far as I know, at least on PC/Console games (and someone can correct me if I'm mistaken) one can finish a single player game without the need for spending more money.

    So we'll see where this goes.



  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,442
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
     You love to put words into others mouths don't you. So please spend all your money indiscriminately and show us your mighty wisdom.
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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 10,778
    Torval said:
     You love to put words into others mouths don't you. 
    Your own words, not mine.
  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnMember RarePosts: 4,066
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Moxom914 said:
    i will not only buy the game but spend money on transactions as well. i work hard for my money and spend a lot on games. gamers now are all butthurt pussies. they dont make you spend money so if you dont want to then dont. i apologize if this comment hurt any snowflakes feelings.
    You sir are a weak willed moron(favorite kind for corporations, mind you). Nobody cares whether you earn 1000$ or 100000$ per month. But if you're not careful, you could spoil it for other people you know? And then, when the shit hits the fan, people like you are the loudest screeching monkeys. "We'll see what happens" -> "NO! Have some common sense and don't invoke doom upon yourself{and us all}?"
    This goes back to my "we're not a club".

    Someone is always going to "look askance" at what another does.

    I'm pretty sure we both could look into each other lives and find at least one thing that we disapprove of.

    If he finds value or fun in several of the micro-transactions then that's pretty much it.

    I mean, you spend money on video games and I have some (wonderful) friends who think that's a complete waste of money. Should I take their advice and spend that money on something else?

    No I say!

    I can see the slippery slope in making the game impossible to play unless one buys from the in game store but I suspect that won't happen. At least not yet. At the moment, if they make it so that you have to purchase bits and bobs then the game is going to get a bad review because it's going to be touted as unplayable.

    As far as I know, at least on PC/Console games (and someone can correct me if I'm mistaken) one can finish a single player game without the need for spending more money.

    So we'll see where this goes.
    To be quite honest, the games have regressed so much. In year 2004, I used to imagine that we'd have the Holodeck by the year 2020. Ever since corporations and money sharks got involved...they've regressed so much. But it is what it is. We've brought it upon ourselves by supporting this very trend(even me. I spent 100$ for each of the following: Pillars, Tyranny ; and they are not some paradigm changing games, are they now).
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,442
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
     You love to put words into others mouths don't you. 
    Your own words, not mine.
    Yes, because no one can see the previous three posts and how you twisted and SeanM'd what I said. Do you two share an account?
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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 22,881
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Gorwe



  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,442
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Maybe. If they made more money than lost by doing so then they may not care.
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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 10,778
    Torval said:
    Yes, because no one can see the previous three posts and how you twisted and SeanM'd what I said. Do you two share an account?
    You are getting lost...


    Torval said:
    Moxom914 said:
    i will not only buy the game but spend money on transactions as well. i work hard for my money and spend a lot on games. gamers now are all butthurt pussies. they dont make you spend money so if you dont want to then dont. i apologize if this comment hurt any snowflakes feelings.
    So if someone is not a fool and doesn't throw their money down the drain they're "pussies". That should motivate the rest of the drooling masses with their third grade mentality. Let me guess, you love cheetos too.
    I twisted nothing.
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,442
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    Yes, because no one can see the previous three posts and how you twisted and SeanM'd what I said. Do you two share an account?
    You are getting lost...


    Torval said:
    Moxom914 said:
    i will not only buy the game but spend money on transactions as well. i work hard for my money and spend a lot on games. gamers now are all butthurt pussies. they dont make you spend money so if you dont want to then dont. i apologize if this comment hurt any snowflakes feelings.
    So if someone is not a fool and doesn't throw their money down the drain they're "pussies". That should motivate the rest of the drooling masses with their third grade mentality. Let me guess, you love cheetos too.
    I twisted nothing.
    Is this more of you pissing in the wind or do you have a point relevant to the thread? Or are you just trolling and flamebaiting? Is there a point to your posts here?
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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 22,881
    Torval said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Maybe. If they made more money than lost by doing so then they may not care.
    Yeah but that depends on how much money they made.

    that's the one thing with corporations, especially corporations that have investors. If they spend x dollars to create a product and service and make a smaller profit than they wanted/needed they will take that money and put it into something else that makes them the profit they want.

    It's the same issue with City of Heroes. Players like to shout that it still made money. Well, I'm sure it did but means nothing. It's not enough to to make money they need to make enough money to match whatever financial projections they have announced to investors.

    Of course then some players start screaming "they're developing with their investors in mind". Only forgetting that they themselves are also investors and if their investments were only making "a little money" they would start looking elsewhere to put their money.





  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnMember RarePosts: 4,066
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Hopefully. I just want to earn my stuff within the game, not pay 5$ for it.
  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 22,881
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Hopefully. I just want to earn my stuff within the game, not pay 5$ for it.
    Hey, preaching to the choir here. I'm "hoping" it's just cosmetic stuff or that one can advance without hitting one's head against the war and being "enticed" to pay for xp buffs.
    Gorwe



  • AsheramAsheram Member UncommonPosts: 2,549
    Participating in the ranked multiplayer attacking other players castles, defending your castle make your commanders and soldiers that die disappear for good even in your single player campaign. So I am betting there are going to be a lot of items and units for use in this mode in the cash shop.

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  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnMember RarePosts: 4,066
    edited August 12
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Hopefully. I just want to earn my stuff within the game, not pay 5$ for it.
    Hey, preaching to the choir here. I'm "hoping" it's just cosmetic stuff or that one can advance without hitting one's head against the war and being "enticed" to pay for xp buffs.
    Hell, I don't want to purchase even cosmetics. What's wrong with earning it? But I feel too old to even mention this...people these days. They just want to purchase, don't want to earn anything.
    Asheram said:
    Participating in the ranked multiplayer attacking other players castles, defending your castle make your commanders and soldiers that die disappear for good even in your single player campaign. So I am betting there are going to be a lot of items and units for use in this mode in the cash shop.
    Honestly, mixing singleplayer and multiplayer elements...doesn't sound exactly promising.
    Post edited by Gorwe on
    Torval
  • AsheramAsheram Member UncommonPosts: 2,549
    edited August 12
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Hopefully. I just want to earn my stuff within the game, not pay 5$ for it.
    Hey, preaching to the choir here. I'm "hoping" it's just cosmetic stuff or that one can advance without hitting one's head against the war and being "enticed" to pay for xp buffs.
    Hell, I don't want to purchase even cosmetics. What's wrong with earning it? But I feel too old to even mention this...people these days. They just want to purchase, don't want to earn anything.
    Asheram said:
    Participating in the ranked multiplayer attacking other players castles, defending your castle make your commanders and soldiers that die disappear for good even in your single player campaign. So I am betting there are going to be a lot of items and units for use in this mode in the cash shop.
    Honestly, mixing singleplayer and multiplayer elements...doesn't sound exactly promising.
    There is a non ranked version of the mp which if your troops die in it they are still alive in your sp campaign its only the ranked version where losses count.
    Post edited by Asheram on
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,442
    Even though it's only ranked that affects single player I think it's a bad idea. I can't see that being a popular feature. It makes me wonder if ranked play will also have rewards that are useful in single player. Will that mean ranked play will provide better rewards?
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  • XodicXodic RealityMember RarePosts: 672
    Mike Judge needs to make an Idiocrocy 2 and have a scene where every aspect of play has been replaced by pay, gamers are paying playing games, kids go outside to pay play and something clever about paying playing with yourself. 

    "It's amazing what we can get away with and what we can't. But it's not for me to decide."
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    Mike Judge
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Under The BedMember UncommonPosts: 652
    edited August 12
    It is so sad seeing how far micro transactions are affecting games.

    I remember a time when Splash Damage gave away Enemy Territory: Wolfenstein for free.  Now a days a publisher like EA, WB would slap on a $60 price tag on a game with less content (cough Battlefront), charge extra for a season pass/DLC and deluxe/pre-order editions and fill the game with micro transactions.

    I thought it would be a couple more years before I would see loot boxes introduced in single player games, but unfortunately gamer's will not make a stand and will let it pass like day one DLC, pre-order bonuses etc. It will become a nature part of the future games, which will slowly become more intrusive as the years progress to the point gamer's will be happy to hand over triple A money to play a game that resembles crappy mobile apps like Hay Day and Clash of Clans etc.
    Post edited by Buccaneer on
    Gdemami
  • HeyYouVideoGameHeyYouVideoGame Member UncommonPosts: 22
    i hate microtransactions. always feels like a money grab.
  • kabitoshinkabitoshin Member UncommonPosts: 802
    LeFantome said:
    Do you blame the company ? Because as long as people will pay, companies are going to do that. So I don't  blame them for giving them the tools to buy stuff with real  money, instead I blame the players for doing it.
    It's a mix of both at fault here, but I find the companies the companies that milk the players to be the real scumbags. There's always that small portion of players that will use their wallets cause money is not an issue for them.
    Gdemami
  • YashaXYashaX Baldurs GateMember RarePosts: 1,945
    edited August 13
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Hopefully. I just want to earn my stuff within the game, not pay 5$ for it.
    Hey, preaching to the choir here. I'm "hoping" it's just cosmetic stuff or that one can advance without hitting one's head against the war and being "enticed" to pay for xp buffs.
    Its not cosmetic stuff, but I suspect it won't amp up the grind too much (if at all) to incentivize buying from the cash shop (at least in terms of the single player game and for someone not obsessed with getting all the "best" gear/orcs etc). 

    Post edited by YashaX on
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,442
    YashaX said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Hopefully. I just want to earn my stuff within the game, not pay 5$ for it.
    Hey, preaching to the choir here. I'm "hoping" it's just cosmetic stuff or that one can advance without hitting one's head against the war and being "enticed" to pay for xp buffs.
    Its not cosmetic stuff, but I suspect it won't amp up the grind too much (if at all) to incentivize buying from the cash shop (at least in terms of the single player game and for someone not obsessed with getting all the "best" gear/orcs etc). 

    That's a good point but I can't help but think of all the other games I have where being obsessed with getting the best gear and pushing the game play doesn't mean draining my wallet and spending more money.
    YashaX
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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 22,881
    YashaX said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Hopefully. I just want to earn my stuff within the game, not pay 5$ for it.
    Hey, preaching to the choir here. I'm "hoping" it's just cosmetic stuff or that one can advance without hitting one's head against the war and being "enticed" to pay for xp buffs.
    Its not cosmetic stuff, but I suspect it won't amp up the grind too much (if at all) to incentivize buying from the cash shop (at least in terms of the single player game and for someone not obsessed with getting all the "best" gear/orcs etc). 

    The last game had some cosmetic stuff so I wouldn't be surprised if they added it to this game.



  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Valve Corporation Member LegendaryPosts: 9,758
    I am still going to buy the game. I loved the fun of the first game and I expect this to be no different. I look forward to release!
    Torval

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  • YashaXYashaX Baldurs GateMember RarePosts: 1,945
    Sovrath said:
    YashaX said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    Gdemami said:
    Torval said:
    So if someone is not a fool...
    In other words, spending money on entertainment/hobby makes one fool... 'third grade mentality' you say?
    It's one thing to spend money to purchase it. It's whole another thing to invite the corp.people for the feast. And the feast being...US. "One does not simply do business with money sharks"
    So here's a thought, what happens if many people buy it but very few buy the micro-transactions? That sends another message doesn't it?
    Hopefully. I just want to earn my stuff within the game, not pay 5$ for it.
    Hey, preaching to the choir here. I'm "hoping" it's just cosmetic stuff or that one can advance without hitting one's head against the war and being "enticed" to pay for xp buffs.
    Its not cosmetic stuff, but I suspect it won't amp up the grind too much (if at all) to incentivize buying from the cash shop (at least in terms of the single player game and for someone not obsessed with getting all the "best" gear/orcs etc). 

    The last game had some cosmetic stuff so I wouldn't be surprised if they added it to this game.
    Oh I see what you mean, yeah I suppose there will also be cosmetic stuff. I have no particular quams with that sort of thing though.
    ....
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