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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,282
    edited July 27
    Konfess said:
    "Face. I, as a user of your services, would like to get acquainted with the evidentiary basis of the violation of the user agreement under item 4.5.1"

    Why do companies with hold this "evidence" from the accused violators?  Because this is the very information violators need so they don't get caught. 

    Every time a new anti-ID hacking scheme is put in place we see post talking about privacy violation.  But the only privacy being violated is that of account hackers.

    Multi Factor Authentication, is vital.
    4.5.1, basically states that you may not buy gold, may not sell goods, or assets within with the game such as Wood Stone, or other items for real money.

    It also states that you can't trade items across other games or for Real World favors, which is the part where i got into trouble for example, but the company did accuse me of RMT which is inaccurate.

    The last thing it mentions is if you get a large amount of currency or items with nothing of equal value in return "We will Assume you vioted section 4.5.1" maybe not this exact words but if someone just gives you something freely they will assume you paid real money for it which is why the game isn't a true sandbox, because people wouldn't generally get in trouble for giving items away like in EVE.

    I can tell you exactly what evidence they collect its not secret.

    . IP address of the users involved for example if an account is hacked or if the user buys currency they have your IP.

    . Email Address.

    . Transaction Logs, this is how they track gold sellers, because gold sellers use stolen credit-cards to buy currency, so once they directly trade or trade it through the game the system simply tracks who spent the gold, traded the gold, or used the gold, and where it goes to from there. This is no secret every game does this, except EVE Online is more open about it.

    . edit, and what isn't bought from illegal sources if I logged in and just gave someone 10k or more gold freely in their trade window, Albion has a tool based off gold sellers websites that tracks the items being traded, the value of them, and the gold or silver traded and if it doesn't equal a close value or nothing at all traded in return they flag your account, and may ban you.

    The problem begins when Legitimate customers start to get banned because of account hacking, and not unbanned as well as forbidden to create new accounts under the user agreement.

    The other problem is accusing people of buying gold without being able to fully back it up, this company assumes you bought gold because someone gave you gold, I was reading the Albion Online forums a user who got banned, admit they commit fraud, or bought illegal currency and started handing it to a bunch of players freely accepting it.

    As for MFA, back when I palyed Albion before anything happened when my IP changed, and my PC Hardware changed I was not required to use MFA or confirm my email that it was actually me logging into the game, don't know why, I know on my mobile device it asked but not on my PC.
    Post edited by Renoaku on
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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,282
    natpick said:
    looks like someone got access to my acount today so i changed password try to login and got message im banned for selling gold for ever,apparently this is happening alot but my main concern is with the company,i just dont trust them after playing since release,i mean i posted a few concerns regarding the buisness model and next time i try to login im banned. i couldnt give a shit about losing my acount but something seems off with this company and i have played games and mmo's since they started and never felt like i dont trust any of them untill now.
    So hey please let us know what happens with the appeal, hopefully you get your account back, and I feel ya.
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  • toto1900toto1900 Member CommonPosts: 5
    Find 10 differences:


    Aulis (Albion Online)


    Jul 25, 5:39 pm UTC


    good time
    Days.


    Thanks that
    Turned to us.


    Your account was
    Blocked access to the game and to the site for transactions with a third party. it
    Violation of the user agreement and is punished with a lifetime ban, more
    For more information, please visit our website Terms and Conditions, point


    4.5.1 Users are prohibited from selling, purchasing, renting, leasing,
    Offering, accepting, disseminating or copying Virtual Benefits, including
    Virtual Currency, within and / or outside the Game - in whatever form - to / from
    Third parties unless expressly permitted by these Terms and Conditions or the
    Game Rules ...


    All actions
    Committed by your account, your characters, are considered actions
    Conducted on your behalf. You must protect your access to your
    Account, personal account information. Item 11.7


    11.7 If a third party uses a User Account after gaining possession of
    The access data because of the user
    Party access, then the User is responsible for any damages or similar caused by
    The User's failure.


    We have a very
    Strict policy towards players who violate the Terms and Conditions,
    So your ban is not subject to amnesty.


    Regards,


    Aulis | Customer Care Agent | Support@albiononline.com


    Albion Online - Craft. Trade. Conquer.


    _________________________________________________


    Max (Albion Online)


    Jul 26, 11:28 UTC


    Good afternoon!


    According to paragraph 11.3

    11.3 Sandbox Interactive reserves the right to lock all User Accounts of a User
    If the User violates the terms of use with one of his Accounts.


    We have the right
    Block your account for violation of terms and conditions.


    According to the rules
    And conditions, we can terminate the contract with the user if it violates clause
    Of the contract, namely (in accordance with clause 14.5.4):


    If the User is engaged in cheating, use of bots, financial fraud or
    Severe abuse of bugs. The User is hereby advised that Sandbox Interactive will,
    Without prior warning, immediately suspend all access to the Game
    In these circumstances to protect the integrity and reputation of the
    Game.

    If the User is culpably in violation of applicable law or of these Terms and Conditions
    Conditions, the Game Rules and / or use rules for Virtual Benefits;

    If the User is in arrears with the payment of fees due;

    If the User issues a payment dispute or charge-back;

    If the third parties (e.g. social network operators), through the registration
    Function the user gains access to his account at Sandbox Interactive, requests
    Sandbox Interactive to delete the user data and / or to prepare
    Actions or limits Sandbox Interactive 'access to data.


    And according to the point: 14.8 To enforce this provision, in
    Particular if the user was involved in botting, cheating, advertising for his
    Own or third party services or financial fraud,


    According to this paragraph, we can block your account without warning: The User is hereby advised that
    Sandbox Interactive will, without prior warning, immediately suspend all access
    Of the User to the Game in these circumstances
    Reputation of the Game.


    More detailed
    Information, you can find here: https://albiononline.com/en/terms_and_conditions


    I remind you that you
    Accepted the rules and conditions when entering the game.


    Yours faithfully,


    Max | Senior Customer Care Agent | Support@albiononline.com


    Albion Online - Craft. Trade. Conquer.

    __________________________________________________ ___


    A little clue first I was banned for -


    "4.5.1 Users are prohibited from selling, purchasing, renting, leasing,
    Offering, accepting, disseminating or copying Virtual Benefits, including
    Virtual Currency, within and / or outside the Game - in whatever form - to / from
    Third parties unless expressly permitted by these Terms and Conditions or the
    Game Rules ... "


    And then for -


    "According to the rules and conditions, we can terminate the contract with the user if it violates the clause of the contract, namely (according to clause 14.5.4): If the User is engaged in cheating, use of bots, financial fraud or
    Severe abuse of bugs. The User is hereby advised that Sandbox Interactive will,
    Without prior warning, immediately suspend all access to the Game
    In these circumstances to protect the integrity and reputation of the
    Game. "

    And a day and for cooperation with the aliens

    2 in 1 super bonus having received a ban for RMT as a gift for cheating and boting.


    And you'll be indignant, we not only account we have those and IP and MAC are banned:

    "And also according to the clause: 14.8 In the case of extraordinary termination by Sandbox Interactive, the User is not allowed to create a new User Account if his account (s) was / were blocked Enforce this provision, in particular if the user is involved in botting, cheating, advertising for his own or third party services or financial fraud, Sandbox Interactive May prevent the User from creating additional User Accounts and immediately suspend additional User Accounts created by such User without prior warning. "
  • toto1900toto1900 Member CommonPosts: 5
    C start I was banned for 4.5.1 and a day later 14.5.4 that absolutely different things - the post is above the administrator's admin from Jul 26, 15:28 UTC (a miracle happened I stopped being RMT but became a Cheater and a Booter - moreover there was not added Cheating and Bothering a replaced) That is, by the end I'm not RMT, I'm the Cheater-Botovoder.
    The traffic cop stops you and says I write you a fine for a broken headlight - and the headlight is whole - a penalty for drunk driving to take away the driver's license. (For Chits and botry according to the user agreement, you can ban IP and Mac item 14.8)


    - Comes to the personal cabinet on the provider's website and looks: connections, gateways, ports, which aipishniki co-operated (in short, does not anyone sit on the line). You'll scan antivirus for Trojans and others.
    And it should be like this: At the bath, either server logs are provided (but this is rare) or an official letter with a squeeze out of the logs, it indicates everything about the offense (when, from which IP or Mac, what cheat, fixed the transfer of RMT between such IP, WHAT THE ADMIN FOR THOSE ROBOTS WILL SEE IN THE LEGS - and there should be a personal number of the admin on the robot and the administrator on the robot with the public (Then this is an official document)) Based on this document, I can file a claim either to the company providing the antivirus service or the provider Depending on the fact that in the logs of the servo will be found.

    (A policeman comes up to you and says - you robbed an apartment - and you did not rob - and you were put without trial and investigation)

    BUT NOT THIS IS ALL THE MOST FUN


    There is a different level of legislative responsibility!


    1) Unilateral cancellation of the contract (user agreement) with violation of the rights of the second party.
    - Serious administrative and legal violation (it makes sense to sue you will get a lot of buns)

    2) Non-observance of a contract by one of the parties, violation of the rights of the other party. (Not a serious and difficultly provable offense - will apologize, pay court costs and can buy chupachups or give a skin)


    What is the difference:
    In 1 case, the administration writes that "we break with the user No. ... the contract for the reason ..." and terminate the maintenance of the account (when you enter the game it should be written - your account is deleted or something like that)


    In 2 cases, the administration applies to you the time restrictions (blocked until 07.25.2217 (third party program abuse)) that is, there is an account and therefore it is maintained, the account on the server is saved.


    Just wait 100 years
    I have repeatedly demanded to write to me that they terminate the user agreement but
    "According to the rules and conditions, we can terminate the contract with the user if it violates the clause of the contract, namely (according to clause 14.5.4):"
    Cool 5 + got out. Here we would write, we break the contract, I would sue. And so the candle is not worth it
    In Verbraucherzentralen, I certainly wrote but it is unlikely they will take.
    __________________________________________________ ___________
    But the game is EXCELLENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Really reminded of all that I liked in the lineup and ultimatum
    I decided to change the MAC and IP and I will darn !!! I just now know that this is at your own risk! At any time, a ban for 100 years (mega hardcore). Or maybe I just was not lucky
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  • toto1900toto1900 Member CommonPosts: 5
    edited July 31
    Questions to the administration of the project Albion.
     
    Sergevna
    • 3,413
    Thursday, 4:24 pm
    @ Toto1900 would not like, of course, to hurt your feelings, but the publication of this correspondence of the matter to the administration, which would correspond to the topic of the thread, is not there. Posts are deleted.

    Thursday, 4:27 pm
    NEW

    Hello!

    You have been issued RO for 30 days due to account blocking.
    You have been warned by Sergevna:
    The account is blocked for transactions with the 3rd party, unworthy behavior on the forum and the publication of personal correspondence with the company's employees in support.
    Post edited by toto1900 on
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  • AkulasAkulas GoldcoastMember UncommonPosts: 2,072
    All I got from this thred is some dude is replying with multiple accounts and we need to find bat man
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  • DeepfallDeepfall ParisMember UncommonPosts: 51
    edited July 31
    What I don't get is why is there even a need for people to use 3rd party?

    The game has a built-in Gold/Silver conversion system.  

    I'm personally glad to read these cheaters are getting themselves banned.
    It boosts my confidence in Albion Online.
    Post edited by Deepfall on
  • HatefullHatefull Member RarePosts: 1,464
    Deepfall said:
    What I don't get is why is there even a need for people to use 3rd party?

    The game has a built-in Gold/Silver conversion system.  

    I'm personally glad to read these cheaters are getting themselves banned.
    It boosts my confidence in Albion Online.
    I agree with your last line.

    As to your question, they come here to cry when they get caught doing things they KNOW damn well they are not supposed to do, and they want people to commiserate with them and make them feel better about being the bottom feeders of the gaming world.

    They buy 3rd party gold for a myriad of different reason. Everything from being an "I want it all I want it now", to just being skilless, to you name it. They will try to justify it in many many ways and at the end of the day, it is all BS. They are cheats and ner do wells and they end up getting what they deserve.
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  • StevonStevon Rancho Cucamonga, CAMember UncommonPosts: 215
    natpick said:
    looks like someone got access to my acount today so i changed password try to login and got message im banned for selling gold for ever,apparently this is happening alot but my main concern is with the company,i just dont trust them after playing since release,i mean i posted a few concerns regarding the buisness model and next time i try to login im banned. i couldnt give a shit about losing my acount but something seems off with this company and i have played games and mmo's since they started and never felt like i dont trust any of them untill now.
    If you were really a victim of a gold seller accout hack then 1) how did the gold seller get access to your email to validate login and 2) it wouldn't take long to prove you were a victim as the login IP would have changed to a completely different subnet.

    I'm guessing you weren't a victim after all...
  • RhoklawRhoklaw Ft. Bliss, TXMember EpicPosts: 5,159
    Just stop playing the damn game. It's obvious they setup the ToS / EULA in favor of them being able to ban anyone. What kind of stupid developer designs a ToS / EULA stating that if you trade items in exchange for something not equal in value, that they can automatically assume you are committing a heinous crime. This is more retarded than BDO's inability to trade period.
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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Edmonds, WAMember RarePosts: 3,441
    Rhoklaw said:
    Just stop playing the damn game. It's obvious they setup the ToS / EULA in favor of them being able to ban anyone. What kind of stupid developer designs a ToS / EULA stating that if you trade items in exchange for something not equal in value, that they can automatically assume you are committing a heinous crime. This is more retarded than BDO's inability to trade period.
    A lot of games have that. You also have to look at it like this, the devs have to cover their own asses. That probably just is worded like that so that if they know something fishy happened then they can use that. I'm sure it wouldn't be used against an account unless it was an outrageous amount difference in normal market value. The devs for other games just have better systems in place for checking if it's legit or not. I'm sure Albion will at some point too. But I haven't seen that many people complaining about their accounts getting hacked yet so maybe this dude has a keylogger or something.

     I remember in Eve my friend bought quite a bit of ISK, but the next day they caught it, and just reversed that specific amount out of his wallet in game. 

    The problem is, in an MMORPG, you will not usually (I say this because it's not always the case) have someone trading something tiny for a large amount. Usually that screams scam or selling gold. Gold sellers have tried every method of abusing in game trading to be more secretive, but it seems like any time I see people talking about it it's always trading garbage items for giant sums of in game money. 

    It is strange that the ban can't be appealed, but at the same time there's no reason his account should have gotten the password changed, because that would mean someone had access to the email and the original password. I'm guessing it was a keylogger. I'm sure with enough push Sandbox will just reverse the ban, if you can somehow provide proof or get them to look up the IPs. 
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Chicago, ILMember EpicPosts: 5,705
    I've been on forums in which people admitted to cheating and were even asking for advice on how to get their account unbanned.  I'm not saying this is what's happening here cause I don't know the person.  But I can see the game not telling how a cheat was detected because others can read about it and make the changes needed to avoid that type of detection.  
    Bottom line, it's just a game.  
    No one owns the game but the company so it's on loan or rental to you basically.  
    It's not the only game in town.

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Algo Star SystemMember RarePosts: 1,908
    edited July 31
    Hacked once shame on them. Hacked twice shame on you. 

    It's not the devs problem if you got hacked. Time for some digital lifestyle changes if that's truly the case.  There's way too many tools to at least make it difficult to get compromised.

    I just hope you're not selling a story (to us AND yourself).
    Post edited by FlyByKnight on
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,282
    edited July 31
    Hey thanks all for the replies I have actually been reading all these replies to this thread because I find it rather interesting that more people besides myself are complaining, personally I consider people innocent until its proven they are guilty, but obviously SBI, considers people guilty before innocent.

    Anyways I know cheaters like to lie "I Wasn't Cheating" all the time, but I rarely see cases at least myself on these forums where people have been unfairly banned im Sure it happens where a cheater tries to lie to get unbanned.

    I know its a persons job to secure their own account, 
    but how come this game has no 2FA Key Token Authentication, or Mobile Authentication option for every login, Like I know it asks when I login from a mobile device for example but there has been times I have logged into my account from a different computer and was never asked for a 2FA code, which leads me to believe there maybe a problem with the games security which gold sellers can abuse to access a persons account, it wouldn't be the first time I have seen an exploit related to account security in this game.

    How does one also explain the above posts where they tell he person he was banned for 4.5.1, and then tell them another story of being banned for using a bot, cheat, or hack.

    Support 7/24/17, 1:00 PM
    Hello,

    Individuals who continue to submit tickets have been known to be blocked from submitting more tickets. All evidence is reviewed in all cases but that does not mean it is accurate. Accepting payment in any form is against the Terms and is not negotiable. 

    Anyone who is banned from Albion is also forbidden from creating a new account and will have any associated accounts terminated as well.

    Hope this answers your questions. 

    Basically this game company admit to a friend inquiring about me being banned before banning them from customer service too that they review all evidence, but not all evideince is accurate, did they really just prove to another person that they can't even keep good records of what a player is doing before banning them?

    I have pretty much moved on with this game already seeing what type of company they really are and looking for better games which will not ban a person for freely trading like EVE, great game never got banned for freely trading.


    Post edited by Renoaku on
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  • DeepfallDeepfall ParisMember UncommonPosts: 51
    edited July 31

    Hatefull said:
    Deepfall said:
    What I don't get is why is there even a need for people to use 3rd party?

    The game has a built-in Gold/Silver conversion system.  

    I'm personally glad to read these cheaters are getting themselves banned.
    It boosts my confidence in Albion Online.
    I agree with your last line.

    As to your question, they come here to cry when they get caught doing things they KNOW damn well they are not supposed to do, and they want people to commiserate with them and make them feel better about being the bottom feeders of the gaming world.

    They buy 3rd party gold for a myriad of different reason. Everything from being an "I want it all I want it now", to just being skilless, to you name it. They will try to justify it in many many ways and at the end of the day, it is all BS. They are cheats and ner do wells and they end up getting what they deserve.
    This is clearly one of the most enlightening thread that I've come across so far. You are right. Cheaters come here and cry in one desperate last attempt to cause even more damages than they already have before getting themselves banned. And they get double-caught. I wonder where they go then.

     This website is crowed with testimonies of people that only want to share their hate for a particular game. And this is the first time I notice that 80% of them mention in very vague and broad terms:
    i) a disagreement with the game business model,
    ii) a disagreement with the way rules are being enforced,
    iii) a copious amount of hatred for the developers.

     Sandbox Interactive nailed it by speaking of a heinous crime against their intellectual property. Cheaters do feel haunted by their consciousnesses, by their shame and by their guilt. This situation must be outraging for the developers. More than half of their reviews get written by the most disgracing part of our community.
    I was not sure until yesterday that I was interested to purchase the PC version of Albion. I was considering to stay away until the iOS version release. I'm glad I changed my mind, not only because Albion is a fantastic game, but also because the developers came here to explain us certain points.
    This is rare but so far, I'm a 100% positive with a game.
    Post edited by Deepfall on
  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,240
    Renoaku said:
    Hey thanks all for the replies I have actually been reading all these replies to this thread because I find it rather interesting that more people besides myself are complaining, personally I consider people innocent until its proven they are guilty, but obviously SBI, considers people guilty before innocent.

    Anyways I know cheaters like to lie "I Wasn't Cheating" all the time, but I rarely see cases at least myself on these forums where people have been unfairly banned im Sure it happens where a cheater tries to lie to get unbanned.

    I know its a persons job to secure their own account, 
    but how come this game has no 2FA Key Token Authentication, or Mobile Authentication option for every login, Like I know it asks when I login from a mobile device for example but there has been times I have logged into my account from a different computer and was never asked for a 2FA code, which leads me to believe there maybe a problem with the games security which gold sellers can abuse to access a persons account, it wouldn't be the first time I have seen an exploit related to account security in this game.

    How does one also explain the above posts where they tell he person he was banned for 4.5.1, and then tell them another story of being banned for using a bot, cheat, or hack.

    Support 7/24/17, 1:00 PM
    Hello,

    Individuals who continue to submit tickets have been known to be blocked from submitting more tickets. All evidence is reviewed in all cases but that does not mean it is accurate. Accepting payment in any form is against the Terms and is not negotiable. 

    Anyone who is banned from Albion is also forbidden from creating a new account and will have any associated accounts terminated as well.

    Hope this answers your questions. 

    Basically this game company admit to a friend inquiring about me being banned before banning them from customer service too that they review all evidence, but not all evideince is accurate, did they really just prove to another person that they can't even keep good records of what a player is doing before banning them?

    I have pretty much moved on with this game already seeing what type of company they really are and looking for better games which will not ban a person for freely trading like EVE, great game never got banned for freely trading.


    You have definitely not moved on yet from Albion else you wouldn't discuss it every day on multiple threads.

    Also you bring up EVE, while you freely trade very few people trade items for free unless its between accounts they own, corpmates or close personal friends

    CCP has been doing this for a very long time now so understandable they are likely better at discerning the truth.

    Albions devs may have made bad decisions banning you and others, its potential lost revenue which in time they'll learn how to make better decisions. 

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  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Anderson, InMember RarePosts: 3,139
    In my opinon the guy is pissed he got caught and can not let it go.
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    If you're going to use multiple accounts at least use a different style FFS..... 
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  • DeepfallDeepfall ParisMember UncommonPosts: 51
    edited July 31
    Renoaku said:
    Well me personally I admit when I break a rule in a game if I find out that something I did was actually not legal like my trade between the game, (...) I was still able to login to my account which I should not have been able to do because of a security exploit there, so I believe it is possible that these bots or cheaters may have found a way to bypass 2FA even if the game does have it.
    Post edited by Deepfall on
  • DeepfallDeepfall ParisMember UncommonPosts: 51
    edited July 31
    This is miserable.

    Come on, wake up! You are getting to the point of confessing hacking Star Wars Galaxies until forcing innocent developers to rush forward with the NGE.

    Do you realise that the more you try to explain yourself, the more we are glad that you were banned early this time around?
    Post edited by Deepfall on
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,282
    edited July 31
    Well I haven't been on multiple threads lately discussing bans only this one really reading the responses, I really hope that if you all did nothing wrong, you all get your bans removed because truthfully its getting banned and putting your trust into a company to be ban for no reason or fault of your own.

    I haven't really cared since this company has freely admit to my friend that not all evidence is accurate, and prove that more so by bans on others being told one thing the first time, then being told another reason the second time.

    I am in full support of Albion getting rid of cheaters, but I strongly disagree with their practices, and methods being used like accusing people under 4.5.1 just for freely trading in a game, while it is rare in games such as EVE, that people give away things for nothing in return players do actually do this, in fact I've done this multiple times over a 17 year period giving away free items to new players, but most compared would be in EVE giving away items, and Arche Age were the biggest things I ever gave away free, no real money, and no one got banned for it.

    Obviously if someone is giving away like too much stuff like lets say 10k gold a day to random and multiple people over and over again, or patterns of doing this over a said week or days then they are likely trading for real money, but when they only do it to a few people and are actually playing the game, a legitimate company who investigates properly would see that a player isn't illegally trading for real money.

    Yes I know there are lots of cheaters out there who illegally love to cheat, I see them on YouTube, a popular cheat forum, and other places but not everyone is dishonest just because others actually cheat and then think they can appeal a ban on a public forum.

    . Also just on a note those who think I am using multiple accounts here just FYI, having multiple accounts is against the rules, and spreading false information or lies about a person or company I read is also against the rules not something I do.
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  • DeepfallDeepfall ParisMember UncommonPosts: 51
    edited July 31
    I'm so glad you were banned.

    You are beyond hope. You admitted trading with a 3rd party, you confessed hacking your own account to circumvent your own ban, you did change your version of the story multiple times, you admitted encountering problems on other games too before taking it back, 
    No one is going to feel sorry for you. We the players, we are glad you got banned.
     Does rage posting helps you to circumvent your feeling of shame, your guilt and your extensive remorses? 
    Post edited by Deepfall on
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  • navajinavaji Apopka, FLMember UncommonPosts: 22
    Sandbox Interactive is a young company and aside from creating the game they don't fully understand how the business and customer service side works. They are focusing way to much energy on trying to play the roll of international police vs credit card fraud then working in the game they made. Its hurting ALL players not just the bad ones.

    There have a been a few bloggers writing about it;

    http://navaji.kinja.com/albion-offline-1797666505

    Gdemami
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Elmira, ONMember EpicPosts: 5,736
    navaji said:
    Sandbox Interactive is a young company and aside from creating the game they don't fully understand how the business and customer service side works. They are focusing way to much energy on trying to play the roll of international police vs credit card fraud then working in the game they made. Its hurting ALL players not just the bad ones.

    There have a been a few bloggers writing about it;

    http://navaji.kinja.com/albion-offline-1797666505



    Actually, the fight against online cheaters has been going on for some time now. The fact that Sandbox Interactive takes a zero tolerance stand against cheating should actually be encouraging to you. Honestly, if this was of no concern to the community at large then I'm sure they'd allow it, and even compete for your money by selling or allowing the sale of items in-game and then taking a cut for themselves. It's actually much more profitable than performing mass bans of paying customers. So, please, talk to me about how gamers simply want to allow cheaters to play along side them. If you can actually do that I'll give you 10 articles to your 1 that speaks a different story about what MMORPG players want. 
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