so, hows the game?

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  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn belleville, ILMember RarePosts: 3,034
    mgilbrtsn said:


    2nd:  It's a guild centric game, so if you're a solo or bust kinda guy, it might be a challenge.



    Can you accomplish anything at higher levels without running with a guild or group?  Or do you just get ganked the second you step into the open PvP zones?

    If you want to solo the higher level areas, it's gonna be tough.  I've talked with a few who do it, but you're gonna have to know your character and the area.

    Concentrate on enjoying yourself, and not on why I shouldn't enjoy myself.

  • pompey606pompey606 milfordMember UncommonPosts: 439
    Shall we get a discord running for us all? I am happy to set this up if it will get used
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  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn belleville, ILMember RarePosts: 3,034
    pompey606 said:
    Shall we get a discord running for us all? I am happy to set this up if it will get used
    that would be nice.
    Nyctelios

    Concentrate on enjoying yourself, and not on why I shouldn't enjoy myself.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Dublin, OHMember UncommonPosts: 3,640
    Renoaku said:

    http://imgur.com/a/YwMiX <---- Those in doubt there is proof right there my friend saved the responses and sent them over to me before getting banned themselves for replying to a ticket lol.


    You admitted to breaking the rules, they banned you. Case closed.
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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 22,876
    Renoaku said:
    but Korn a developer accused me of buying gold banned my 4 year old account I had in good standing since 2013, and its a total bs lie, but this is the type of customer service I get from them and their company.



    I'm always amazed at how amazed these stories make me ...

    So, you traded currency or items  with someone else from another game and it never occurred to you that it would look like you were buying gold?

    To break it down:

    If you spent x amount of dollars to purchase, say, 25 million of in-game currency and someone comes up to you in game to gives you that currency, it's going to look like you "bought gold".

    Or, you trade x amount ingame currency from another game for 25 million of your current game's currency and "someone comes up to you in game to give you that currency and it's going to look like ..."

    You get it? There is no way that their people are going to know what deal you made to get that 25 million. You might have mowed their lawn or spent a million or gave them stock in a company it doesn't matter.

    How is it that this is a surprise?!?!?!?!?


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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,284
    edited July 25
    Renoaku said:

    http://imgur.com/a/YwMiX <---- Those in doubt there is proof right there my friend saved the responses and sent them over to me before getting banned themselves for replying to a ticket lol.


    You admitted to breaking the rules, they banned you. Case closed.
    I wouldn't be as upset if the ban were truly about breaking the rules, but its not, its about being accused of buying currency for real money, and this company just admit to a guild member that not all evidenice is accurate, and told me they don't have ti disclose anything.

    If it was a ban over accepting a Large amount of currency like I did then they should have at least acknowledged reviewing the counter evidence i sent them, and if the person did something illegal themselves whom I traded with then that is not my fault or doing I just accepted a trade.

    However since there was no gold trade for Real Money, then it becomes a lie, and that is the upsetting part.

    I get it it's within their legal right but come on customer service on this scale which also banned a friend instead of just closing the support ticket its truly pathetic.

    Sovrath said:
    Renoaku said:
    but Korn a developer accused me of buying gold banned my 4 year old account I had in good standing since 2013, and its a total bs lie, but this is the type of customer service I get from them and their company.



    I'm always amazed at how amazed these stories make me ...

    So, you traded currency or items  with someone else from another game and it never occurred to you that it would look like you were buying gold?

    To break it down:

    If you spent x amount of dollars to purchase, say, 25 million of in-game currency and someone comes up to you in game to gives you that currency, it's going to look like you "bought gold".

    Or, you trade x amount ingame currency from another game for 25 million of your current game's currency and "someone comes up to you in game to give you that currency and it's going to look like ..."

    You get it? There is no way that their people are going to know what deal you made to get that 25 million. You might have mowed their lawn or spent a million or gave them stock in a company it doesn't matter.

    How is it that this is a surprise?!?!?!?!?


    And yeah I get your point of what it can look like, but the game is a sand-box that should by all means allow free trading for any reason or no reason at all, for example if EVE if I give away 1 billion isk to anyone they aren't going to just ban me and accuse me of selling gold or the person in question.

    And yeah I totally agree but i've done outside deals in other games without real money when I quit a game like Arche Age, and never got banned or warned but SBI is totally different, yet other people are breaking the same rule of Receiving currency with nothing of equal value in return and not banned too.

    Also doesn't explain their customer service?

    . Why they admit to me that they dont need to disclose anything.

    . And then they admit to a guildie which they talked to me over discord that evidence is not always accurate, and even banned them too from the support system.

    it is what it is, and as long as I have proof this company is doing this type of stuff hopefully it will prevent others from running into the same issues or trusting SBI for that matter.

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  • ManWithNoTanManWithNoTan Member UncommonPosts: 47
    Renoaku posts this same stuff in almost every Albion thread I've read here. 
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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,284
    edited July 25
    Renoaku posts this same stuff in almost every Albion thread I've read here. 
    Oh not every albion thread this is totally new, and even more proof that perhaps to those who don't trust it that I am telling the truth lol. http://imgur.com/a/YwMiX

    This company banned a guildie just for asking about me and I was shared that picture by them where they admit it may not have been accurate, but just decided to Life ban the account so this company really can't prove there was any gold purchase, all they can see is a trade, and its not my responsibility what someone else does if I knew a cheater was selling gold by all means I would report them.

    If people still wan't to trust in that game this is fine, but I've been reading other responses and posts on here, and obviously this game has cheaters / hackers in it, and a company that bans its customers from support without even reviewing things properly, I've never experienced this stuff in my life, let alone another person banned just for questioning usually most companies would just close the ticket.
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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 22,876
    Renoaku said:


    Sovrath said:
    Renoaku said:
    but Korn a developer accused me of buying gold banned my 4 year old account I had in good standing since 2013, and its a total bs lie, but this is the type of customer service I get from them and their company.



    I'm always amazed at how amazed these stories make me ...

    So, you traded currency or items  with someone else from another game and it never occurred to you that it would look like you were buying gold?

    To break it down:

    If you spent x amount of dollars to purchase, say, 25 million of in-game currency and someone comes up to you in game to gives you that currency, it's going to look like you "bought gold".

    Or, you trade x amount ingame currency from another game for 25 million of your current game's currency and "someone comes up to you in game to give you that currency and it's going to look like ..."

    You get it? There is no way that their people are going to know what deal you made to get that 25 million. You might have mowed their lawn or spent a million or gave them stock in a company it doesn't matter.

    How is it that this is a surprise?!?!?!?!?


    And yeah I get your point of what it can look like, but the game is a sand-box that should by all means allow free trading for any reason or no reason at all, for example if EVE if I give away 1 billion isk to anyone they aren't going to just ban me and accuse me of selling gold or the person in question.

    And yeah I totally agree but i've done outside deals in other games without real money when I quit a game like Arche Age, and never got banned or warned but SBI is totally different, yet other people are breaking the same rule of Receiving currency with nothing of equal value in return and not banned too.

    Also doesn't explain their customer service?

    . Why they admit to me that they dont need to disclose anything.

    . And then they admit to a guildie which they talked to me over discord that evidence is not always accurate, and even banned them too from the support system.

    it is what it is, and as long as I have proof this company is doing this type of stuff hopefully it will prevent others from running into the same issues or trusting SBI for that matter.

    But you aren't a novice to online games. Surely you know that no game company, to my knowledge/experience "ever" discloses how they came to the decision to ban you, they never show "proof".

    these forums are littered with people coming to them and complaining they got banned for no good reason and that the the company never showed them proof.

    As far as you trading between games, as far as I know/have experienced, this is never "legal" according the game rules. So you essentially just got away with it all those times. You not being banned wasn't them condoning it.



  • NycteliosNyctelios Novo Hamburgo - RS - BrazilMember EpicPosts: 2,248
    I must admit I was too fast to judge the game based on having a premium status to boost yield. I did not know such status could be sold and bought in the market - or plainly ignored said information. That tied to group focused gameplay changes a lot of things I thought about it.

    I may give this game a try with this info in mind. It's great people are enjoying it and this community is getting together to play it.
    Kyleranmgilbrtsn

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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,284
    edited July 25
    Sovrath said:
    Renoaku said:


    Sovrath said:
    Renoaku said:
    but Korn a developer accused me of buying gold banned my 4 year old account I had in good standing since 2013, and its a total bs lie, but this is the type of customer service I get from them and their company.



    I'm always amazed at how amazed these stories make me ...

    So, you traded currency or items  with someone else from another game and it never occurred to you that it would look like you were buying gold?

    To break it down:

    If you spent x amount of dollars to purchase, say, 25 million of in-game currency and someone comes up to you in game to gives you that currency, it's going to look like you "bought gold".

    Or, you trade x amount ingame currency from another game for 25 million of your current game's currency and "someone comes up to you in game to give you that currency and it's going to look like ..."

    You get it? There is no way that their people are going to know what deal you made to get that 25 million. You might have mowed their lawn or spent a million or gave them stock in a company it doesn't matter.

    How is it that this is a surprise?!?!?!?!?


    And yeah I get your point of what it can look like, but the game is a sand-box that should by all means allow free trading for any reason or no reason at all, for example if EVE if I give away 1 billion isk to anyone they aren't going to just ban me and accuse me of selling gold or the person in question.

    And yeah I totally agree but i've done outside deals in other games without real money when I quit a game like Arche Age, and never got banned or warned but SBI is totally different, yet other people are breaking the same rule of Receiving currency with nothing of equal value in return and not banned too.

    Also doesn't explain their customer service?

    . Why they admit to me that they dont need to disclose anything.

    . And then they admit to a guildie which they talked to me over discord that evidence is not always accurate, and even banned them too from the support system.

    it is what it is, and as long as I have proof this company is doing this type of stuff hopefully it will prevent others from running into the same issues or trusting SBI for that matter.

    But you aren't a novice to online games. Surely you know that no game company, to my knowledge/experience "ever" discloses how they came to the decision to ban you, they never show "proof".

    these forums are littered with people coming to them and complaining they got banned for no good reason and that the the company never showed them proof.

    As far as you trading between games, as far as I know/have experienced, this is never "legal" according the game rules. So you essentially just got away with it all those times. You not being banned wasn't them condoning it.
    Yeah I get that but trading freely in games isn't illegal, if I walked up to someone and offered them free items or gold in the game then that is not cheating, what would be illegal is if I used my credit card, bought a bunch of Plex in EVE gave that gold away then charged back, but trading in online games is allowed If not games would forbid trading all together?

    And I have given away plenty of free items and currency over the years in games when I have quit, or just wanted to help a new player, never have any of us been banned for the rule Receiving currency, without nothing in equal value, we will assume you cheated thing. And this is many games over 17 years from "World OF Warcraft, Aion, Guild Wars 2, Arche Age was my biggest one, FFXIV, EVE, just to name a few which none of us ever got in trouble for freely giving away stuff.


    Game companies usually do not disclose info on a reason a player is banned example hacks detected like Aimbot or cheats, but they allow the user to be honest and tell them what they did usually when a ban is done its because a player is knowingly cheating and used a cheat program for example not a real cheat but "Aimbot.exe" and would be detected but not bother reporting it in which case a user would be banned for cheating and well deserved, however a company also allows you to provide counter evidence, example banned for macroing.

    Then I would submit to them, I am using a G19s keyboard, and razer mouse for example, is it possible your anti-cheat detected my macro software installed as a system service but not running, and if that is the case they lift the ban.

    And most games do not really endorse trading between games, but they usually don't ban a customer for it, tell them they can't disclose then ban from a support ticket, let alone ban another guild member from support and admit to them it may not be accurate. 

    If trading in a game wasn't allowed then they wouldn't allow trading, the problem is when it actually does get mixed up with a 3rd party gold seller or person who is doing something illegal, but every trade I have done among friends up until Albion has never gotten me in trouble before.

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  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros USMember EpicPosts: 1,809
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,284
    Well in simple I would honor them for that, and say that most people who get banned for buying / selling gold are likely guilty, but there is a small perecent of people who trade across games or for outside favors and didn't read the terms, or in my case read them four years ago but didn't read because we were not notified about the changes and missed the rule so we cheated unknowingly by trading across the games.

    Although the difference between Albion, and EVE for example or a more professional company with outstanding customer service, is that in EVE for example I had ISK removed one time and the company told me it was illegal to buy ISK, or Plex from unauthorized sites, at the time I didn't know people were commiting fraud, so I received Plex from a 3rd party site that is still open but I can't name here for Real Money, and it turned out to be fraud plex where people charged back and it tracked down to me.

    The company however warned me, and made my account go negative isk on my character so I had to re-play it and warned me never to buy currency or items from sites outside its trusted list which is here https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx and every since then when I did play EVE before I stopped playing I would purchase Plex in bulk off those sites and never got banned or anymore warnings again.

    For example in EVE they told me as long as I receive a code to put into EVE then its not illegal but never buy Plex or accept plex from anyone I don't know.

    So yes people get in trouble for minor things like trading across a game, or sometimes break a rule they don't know is illegal, but I find usually being honest and straight forward to the company or person who is usually talking nice to you they likely just warn you, or will even lift a ban if banned given you don't do it again and tell them the truth.

    With Albion Online, they refused to review any counter evidence submitted, and immediately just accused me of buying gold, which if I did purchase as they claim I would have admit it to them in the first support ticket that I opened and asked if I could appeal it, so this is why its so upsetting to me as a 4 year founder / backer in this game.

    I am not a racist because I have a few friends from Germany in a online game, but I had 4 people message me and tell me that its just the way German games are something about being a GMBH, or something and their attitudes towards its customers?
    Gdemami
  • natpicknatpick stockton/ u.kMember UncommonPosts: 202
    well ofc they have ,you get gold from other sources you aint buying gold from the store,game seems too centered round buying gold for my liking,i have 25 days premium left but cant be arsed to play these cash games.

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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member RarePosts: 2,284
    edited July 25
    natpick said:
    well ofc they have ,you get gold from other sources you aint buying gold from the store,game seems too centered round buying gold for my liking,i have 25 days premium left but cant be arsed to play these cash games.
    http://imgur.com/a/P62DG Well I did buy it legally from their store as shown here just a week before I was banned I made 3 transactions prior to trading across games and stuff.

    The only real currency I spent real money on, but this company claims otherwise and that is what disturbs me, and I have no legitimate reason to why if I needed more currency I wouldn't purchase it from SBI given I have a reputation of spending hundreds even $1000 in an online game in a week lol.
    Post edited by Renoaku on
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  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros USMember EpicPosts: 1,809
    Renoaku said:
    Well in simple I would honor them for that, and say that most people who get banned for buying / selling gold are likely guilty, but there is a small perecent of people who trade across games or for outside favors and didn't read the terms, or in my case read them four years ago but didn't read because we were not notified about the changes and missed the rule so we cheated unknowingly by trading across the games.

    Although the difference between Albion, and EVE for example or a more professional company with outstanding customer service, is that in EVE for example I had ISK removed one time and the company told me it was illegal to buy ISK, or Plex from unauthorized sites, at the time I didn't know people were commiting fraud, so I received Plex from a 3rd party site that is still open but I can't name here for Real Money, and it turned out to be fraud plex where people charged back and it tracked down to me.

    The company however warned me, and made my account go negative isk on my character so I had to re-play it and warned me never to buy currency or items from sites outside its trusted list which is here https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx and every since then when I did play EVE before I stopped playing I would purchase Plex in bulk off those sites and never got banned or anymore warnings again.

    For example in EVE they told me as long as I receive a code to put into EVE then its not illegal but never buy Plex or accept plex from anyone I don't know.

    So yes people get in trouble for minor things like trading across a game, or sometimes break a rule they don't know is illegal, but I find usually being honest and straight forward to the company or person who is usually talking nice to you they likely just warn you, or will even lift a ban if banned given you don't do it again and tell them the truth.

    With Albion Online, they refused to review any counter evidence submitted, and immediately just accused me of buying gold, which if I did purchase as they claim I would have admit it to them in the first support ticket that I opened and asked if I could appeal it, so this is why its so upsetting to me as a 4 year founder / backer in this game.

    I am not a racist because I have a few friends from Germany in a online game, but I had 4 people message me and tell me that its just the way German games are something about being a GMBH, or something and their attitudes towards its customers?
    So you're saying that you've actually been dinged for this before in EVE Online .... but decided it was a good idea to try it in other games?
  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,263
    edited July 25
    Sigh, yet another thread derailed and taken off course over this same issue.

    What do you suppose we're up to, perhaps at least 25+ threads and several hundred posts by Ren and those responding?

    Easily. Please just stop.


    Post edited by Kyleran on
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  • ForgrimmForgrimm Somewhere in TimeMember EpicPosts: 2,542
    Kyleran said:
    Sigh, yet another thread derailed and taken off course over this same issue.

    What do you suppose we're up to, perhaps at least 25+ threads and several hundred posts by Ren and those responding?

    Easily.


    Yup, I reported him and finally put him on ignore. Shit has gone beyond the point of ridiculousness.
    NycteliosKyleranRenoaku
  • NycteliosNyctelios Novo Hamburgo - RS - BrazilMember EpicPosts: 2,248
    Dang, dollar went up. 100brl the lowest tier price. F me.

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  • NycteliosNyctelios Novo Hamburgo - RS - BrazilMember EpicPosts: 2,248
    Forgrimm said:
    Kyleran said:
    Sigh, yet another thread derailed and taken off course over this same issue.

    What do you suppose we're up to, perhaps at least 25+ threads and several hundred posts by Ren and those responding?

    Easily.


    Yup, I reported him and finally put him on ignore. Shit has gone beyond the point of ridiculousness.
    He created other accounts to support himself, tho. Like "next season in Walking Dead".
    KyleranRenoaku

    " Tawnos's blueprints were critical to the creation of my armor. As he once sealed himself in steel, I sealed myself in a walking crypt. "
    —Urza

    - Steam ID Discord ID: Night # 6102
  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros USMember EpicPosts: 1,809
    Nyctelios said:
    Dang, dollar went up. 100brl the lowest tier price. F me.
    Honestly, I'd hold off anyway.  The game is fun when you can play it, but the Sandbox Interactive appears to be struggling with problems caused by too many players being in a single zone at one time.  Every day since the main launch on July 19th has had server crashes and downtime.  I suppose to some degree that's par for the course with a new MMO.  They say they're working on it, but I'm starting to get the feeling that there may not be a quick fix.
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  • ForgrimmForgrimm Somewhere in TimeMember EpicPosts: 2,542
    Nyctelios said:
    Forgrimm said:
    Kyleran said:
    Sigh, yet another thread derailed and taken off course over this same issue.

    What do you suppose we're up to, perhaps at least 25+ threads and several hundred posts by Ren and those responding?

    Easily.


    Yup, I reported him and finally put him on ignore. Shit has gone beyond the point of ridiculousness.
    He created other accounts to support himself, tho. Like "next season in Walking Dead".
    Good, then he'll be perma-banned:

    Multiple Accounts
    • If the staff of MMORPG.com discovers that a user is creating and/or using multiple accounts, that user, and all accounts, both past and present, will be banned from MMORPG.com.

    Renoaku
  • DAS1337DAS1337 Member UncommonPosts: 2,569
    I bought the legendary founders pack way back when I thought it could be the spiritual successor to Ultima Online, and then it wasn't.  Essentially, it appears (at least early on) that it is a huge gear grind.  You grind up through tiers of weapons and armor, as well as harvesting tools.  From colorless newbie gear, up to white elder gear.  The world is NOT one large game space, like Ultima Online.  It is a collection of tiled maps with very little unique design that you load into.  I haven't counted, but I bet there are say, 100 zones.  All of which are similar, even if they are different biomes and house different mobs.  Due to the world design, there can never be ships, and likely, fishing.  As far as I can tell, there are no thief type options, so that whole aspect is missing, and likely always will be.  There is housing, and while not exactly what I prefer, there seems to be quite a bit of customization.  The whole destiny board is hilarious, and I was pretty vocal about it when they first introduced it in development.  While it looks similar to Path of Exiles progression system, it is nothing like it, as it more or less, allows you to track your character progress through 'checkpoints'.  Not only that, it doesn't even remotely jive with the rest of their UI.  I've heard, so take this as a slightly uninformed statement, that PvP is a zergfest, and VERY difficult to get anything done at end game solo.  You are playing on a server with everyone.  It's not even split up by regions.  So, you are playing with Chinese, Europeans, Australians, etc.  So a large portion of your chat is filled with foreign players whom you cannot understand.. you know, different languages and all.  I'm trying to keep an open mind, but it really does appear to lack any real depth that will keep someone coming back and playing for a long time. 
    Gdemami
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Somewhere in TimeMember EpicPosts: 2,542
    I've been watching a bunch of streams and so far nothing has really jumped out at me. It seems like people are mostly just running from one node to another gathering stuff.
  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,263
    edited July 25
    Forgrimm said:
    I've been watching a bunch of streams and so far nothing has really jumped out at me. It seems like people are mostly just running from one node to another gathering stuff.
    Well yeah I  would say in general the game is 
    25% gathering and or PVE farming (frequently done together) 
    25% crafting
    25% hauling stuff around
    25% PVP

    Your percentages will vary based on personal preference but this is the crux of Albion or most any other progression based MMO.


    Post edited by Kyleran on
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