... [snip] I clearly had no idea was actually in the rules because if you go look on the Albion Online forums it only says paying Real Money is illegal, Bit Coins, Favors, and Exchanging across games is not real money. [snip]
Bit Coin is real money.
If something has in any stage some sort of exchange with real money then it is a real money transaction. That's the whole issue with G2A and Steam CS:GO gamble fiasco. There are ways to exchange it for real life money through third party sites selling used games/skins, and steps in the process that involves real life money.
Exchanging across games?! What in actual hell are you even talking about? How can you exchange between games if they are different entities? What the f***, dude?! Where did you get that excuse from? Your arse?!
Man, I can't take you seriously. "Man up" and assume your wrong doing. This... this is beyond nonsense.
Bitcoins are not real money, they are products, there is no difference between BTC and a slice of pizza, both products. And exchanging between games it happens since MMO have appeared, I often traded ISK in Eve online for some gold in Lotro or Archage and stuff like this. It's possible and often done in special between friends or people who know each other in RL
Bitcoins are cryptocurrency, pizza is not, there is a very significant difference, suggest you read up on them.
Yeah but talking about Bitcoin in general I wonder how if any Governments will try to do anything I was online and found a few websites dedicated to Gambling Bit Coin, so if I opened a "Real Life Casino" and made it based around playing for "Free" on gaming machines, or "Gambling Bit Coin" which is not real currency would this be legal within law im just curious about how enforcement will be handled here?
And yeah I think pretty much Bit Coin, or Etherium, Lite Coin, there are many types of Crypto Currency, I think EULA's need to be brought up that buying with Crypto Currency is also illegal, I think some games EULA's could also used updated TOS to cover such because technically its not real money.
Im looking into going into the mining business myself possibly in the future.
Yeah a log that says "Im Delivery" no discussion of buying illegal currency for real money or anything because we were in Comms outside of the game which is why it broke game rules, I handed over items in Arche Age, and they handed me currency in Albion.
The issue was your selling items in ArcheAge for currency in Albion. That you discussed the details of an obviously improper transaction outside the game doesn't somehow excuse it.
You did wrong. Somehow they figured it out. You got busted. Simple as that.
Yeah a log that says "Im Delivery" no discussion of buying illegal currency for real money or anything because we were in Comms outside of the game which is why it broke game rules, I handed over items in Arche Age, and they handed me currency in Albion.
The issue was your selling items in ArcheAge for currency in Albion. That you discussed the details of an obviously improper transaction outside the game doesn't somehow excuse it.
You did wrong. Somehow they figured it out. You got busted. Simple as that.
Yeah the whole issue is really stupid, like after going back and reviewing the agreement I could see where it was wrong as in the actual agreement, but respectfully as I tried to appeal I disagree with a life ban from a game during Beta for doing something that I consider minor, or a mistake of doing nothing but a trade as the game allows players to do.
Over-all the whole issue sucks, I used to do trades across games before did some in Guild Wars, Final Fantasy, World OF Warcraft, Lineage, Arche Age, never got banned or warnings except a warning in Arche Age, but I always considered people to be honorable with their trades and not do any type of fraud but guess these days this isn't always the case, obviously I no longer make such trades anymore after seeing updated user agreements and being made aware of what can happen.
The thing that really upsets me the most about it is how SBI, knew what could happen from beta, but 2-3 months later they launched a game they knew Gold Sellers could commit this type of fraudulent activity in rather than using the experience of what happened to my account to fix the launch of the game and prevent gold sellers from doing what happened like Iron Bank, and putting other players accounts at risk because if a new player thinks someone is helping them and they give them some mounts or gold they could get banned and accused of paying real money. I mean it doesn't really matter now because the game is dead anyway, but if the company actually addressed the issue of the trade like they should have I could have paid them equal dollar value to the currency traded to me, or they could have simply deleted it being beta, and warned me not to accept a trade like such again.
But this issue finding out recently from an even older game I backed called "Warframe" isn't just with Albion, no I haven't been banned from Warframe, but I found out recently watching a YouTube video that players or gold sellers can actually commit fraud, and then trade with others in game which does raise the concerns for me as I do play the game sometimes with clan members about if I ever do an in-game trade using Warframe.market which is a legitimate trade site my account could get banned just for trading purely in game, although Unlikely hopefully its a concern for games that run using currency paid with Real Money.
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And yeah I think pretty much Bit Coin, or Etherium, Lite Coin, there are many types of Crypto Currency, I think EULA's need to be brought up that buying with Crypto Currency is also illegal, I think some games EULA's could also used updated TOS to cover such because technically its not real money.
Im looking into going into the mining business myself possibly in the future.
You did wrong. Somehow they figured it out. You got busted. Simple as that.
Over-all the whole issue sucks, I used to do trades across games before did some in Guild Wars, Final Fantasy, World OF Warcraft, Lineage, Arche Age, never got banned or warnings except a warning in Arche Age, but I always considered people to be honorable with their trades and not do any type of fraud but guess these days this isn't always the case, obviously I no longer make such trades anymore after seeing updated user agreements and being made aware of what can happen.
The thing that really upsets me the most about it is how SBI, knew what could happen from beta, but 2-3 months later they launched a game they knew Gold Sellers could commit this type of fraudulent activity in rather than using the experience of what happened to my account to fix the launch of the game and prevent gold sellers from doing what happened like Iron Bank, and putting other players accounts at risk because if a new player thinks someone is helping them and they give them some mounts or gold they could get banned and accused of paying real money. I mean it doesn't really matter now because the game is dead anyway, but if the company actually addressed the issue of the trade like they should have I could have paid them equal dollar value to the currency traded to me, or they could have simply deleted it being beta, and warned me not to accept a trade like such again.
But this issue finding out recently from an even older game I backed called "Warframe" isn't just with Albion, no I haven't been banned from Warframe, but I found out recently watching a YouTube video that players or gold sellers can actually commit fraud, and then trade with others in game which does raise the concerns for me as I do play the game sometimes with clan members about if I ever do an in-game trade using Warframe.market which is a legitimate trade site my account could get banned just for trading purely in game, although Unlikely hopefully its a concern for games that run using currency paid with Real Money.