DNA Analysis of Egyptian Mummies Supports Biblical Story of Noah’s Descendants

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  • Thoth_MosheThoth_Moshe Member UncommonPosts: 240
    Soon Europe will be filled with plenty of Middle Eastern DNA as well
  • Thoth_MosheThoth_Moshe Member UncommonPosts: 240
    edited July 4
    Yep just another conspiracy, from a government website of all places
    https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2003/novemberdecember/feature/the-soul-free-man

    Napoleon Bonaparte -
    "My decision to destroy the authority of the blacks in Haiti is not so much based on considerations of commerce and money, as on the need to block forever the march of the blacks in the world.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Diversas
    Dum Diversas (English: Until different) is a papal bull issued on 18 June 1452 by Pope Nicholas V. It authorized Afonso V of Portugal to conquer Saracens and pagans and consign them to "perpetual servitude".

    par·a·site
    ˈperəˌsīt/
    noun
    noun: parasite; plural noun: parasites
    an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense.

    Earth Soil Life - And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
    https://www.google.com/search?q=soil&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigqO3_gO_UAhWHrD4KHUbkBrgQ_AUIBigB&biw=1536&bih=755

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Lacks
    Henrietta Lacks (born Loretta Pleasant; August 1, 1920 – October 4, 1951)[2] was an African American woman whose cancer cells were the source of the HeLa cell line, the first immortalized cell line and one of the most important cell lines in medical research. An immortalized cell line will reproduce indefinitely under specific conditions, and the HeLa cell line continues to be a source of invaluable medical data to the present day.

    http://rebeccaskloot.com/the-immortal-life/
    Her name was Henrietta Lacks, but scientists know her as HeLa. She was a poor black tobacco farmer whose cells—taken without her knowledge in 1951—became one of the most important tools in medicine, vital for developing the polio vaccine, cloning, gene mapping, in vitro fertilization, and more. Henrietta’s cells have been bought and sold by the billions, yet she remains virtually unknown, and her family can’t afford health insurance.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/339696-the-health-benefits-of-melanin/

    Melanin is the natural substance that gives color or pigment to the skin, hair and iris of the eye. Cells called melanocytes, located just below the outer surface of the skin, produce melanin, which is in higher levels in people with darker skin. Melanin’s primary function is to protect the skin from sun damage, but it carries additional benefits that are enjoyed mostly by those with darker skin.

    Protective Function

    Exposure to the sun has the potential to cause premature aging of the skin, as well as various skin cancers. These range in severity from basal cell carcinoma to melanoma, an aggressive cancer that spreads more rapidly than milder skin cancers. Your ability to withstand the potentially damaging effects of the sun’s ultraviolet radiation depends on the amount of melanin in your skin, which is determined by the number of melanocytes that are active beneath the surface of your skin. In even the most light-skinned people, the body’s melanocytes respond to sun exposure by producing more melanin, which creates the effect known as tanning. However, there is a limit to the degree of protection that melanin can provide, and it’s significantly higher in people with naturally darker skin.

    In “Dark Deception: Discover the Truths About the Benefits of Sunlight Exposure,” author Joseph Mercola suggests that skin color is a reflection of the geographical area from which your ancestors originated. Thus, descendants of people who traditionally lived in tropical regions with high levels of sun exposure tend to have darker skin, and those whose roots are traceable to ancestors from cooler, northern climes are generally fairer in color.

    Younger-Looking Skin

    Dermatologist Susan C. Taylor, author of “Brown Skin,” points out that African-Americans and other people of color generally look younger than their lighter-skinned peers because of the higher levels of melanin in their skin. The increased melanin protects those who have it from short-term damage from the sun, as well as the long-term signs of aging, such as age spots, deep wrinkles and rough texture, according to Taylor.

    Targets Free Radicals

    Free radicals have been implicated as the cause of widespread damage to human cells. In an article written for The Sun and Your Skin website, Diana Clarke, the website’s founder, writes about melanin’s role in scavenging free radicals, preventing the skin damage they can cause. To explain how melanin fights free-radical damage, Clarke quotes Sergio Nacht, a principal in the skin care consulting firm of Riley-Nacht LLC: “It affects the delicately designed lipids that hold moisture in the stratum corneum." This is the outermost layer of the epidermis. "If the skin loses its moisture, it becomes rigid and cracks.”

    https://www.whitehousehistory.org/questions/did-slaves-build-the-white-house
    Construction on the President's House began in 1792 in Washington, D.C., a new capital situated in sparsely settled region far from a major population center. The decision to place the capital on land ceded by two pro-slavery states-Virginia and Maryland-ultimately influenced the acquisition of laborers to construct its public buildings. The D.C. commissioners, charged by Congress with building the new city under the direction of the president, initially planned to import workers from Europe to meet their labor needs. However, response to recruitment was dismal and soon they turned to African Americans—both enslaved and free—to provide the bulk of labor that built the White House, the United States Capitol, and other early government buildings.

    KJV
    I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool - Daniel 7:9
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-textured_hair
    Clarence (2012) suggests that afro-textured hair may have initially evolved because of an adaptive need amongst humans' early hominid ancestors for protection against the intense UV radiation

    KJV
    And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone - Revelation 4

    Japser/Sardine
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  • Thoth_MosheThoth_Moshe Member UncommonPosts: 240
    edited July 4

    Numbers 15:38-40 (KJV)

    38 Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations


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  • Thoth_MosheThoth_Moshe Member UncommonPosts: 240
    https://www.google.com/search?q=christ+the+good+shepherd+catacomb+of+priscilla&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8h4Tcn-_UAhUGNT4KHQhRC6cQ_AUIBigB&biw=1536&bih=755&dpr=1.25#imgdii=QCYyMLhTvjF1dM:&imgrc=0H78fn3z52i3mM:

    "Christ the Good Shepherd" Catacombs of Priscilla, Rome
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    1 Timothy 2:8

    “I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.”
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    Christ Coptic Museum, Cairo
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  • KooturKootur Lynchburg, VAMember UncommonPosts: 135
    edited July 4
    Yep pretty much more afro centric drivel. Posting YouTube videos and blogs that have no basis in science or history don't really help your argument, just makes you look angry.
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  • Thoth_MosheThoth_Moshe Member UncommonPosts: 240
    Heh people think European ancestors put centuries of work and planning on enslaving the so called Black Man just because they hated skin color.  What an insulting reason for both parties.

    That war has been going on since the Middle Ages
    http://www.mfa.org/collections/object/tapestry-wild-men-and-moors-106003
    Tapestry from Germany 1440 - Museum of Fine Arts, Boston
    Series of scenes (left to right), wild men attacking Moors in castle



    Leviticus 13King James Version (KJV)

    13 And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron, saying,

    2 When a man shall have in the skin of his flesh a rising, a scab, or bright spot, and it be in the skin of his flesh like the plague of leprosy; then he shall be brought unto Aaron the priest, or unto one of his sons the priests:

    3 And the priest shall look on the plague in the skin of the flesh: and when the hair in the plague is turned white, and the plague in sight be deeper than the skin of his flesh, it is a plague of leprosy: and the priest shall look on him, and pronounce him unclean.

    http://www.blinn.edu/socialscience/LDThomas/Feldman/Handouts/0203hand.htm

    Characteristics in the left-hand column dominate over those characteristics listed in the right-hand column.

     


    DOMINANT TRAITS

    RECESSIVE TRAITS

    eye coloring


    brown eyes

    grey, green, hazel, blue eyes

    vision


    farsightedness
    normal vision
    normal vision
    normal vision

    normal vision
    nearsightedness
    night blindness
    color blindness*

    hair


    dark hair
    non-red hair
    curly hair
    full head of hair
    widow's peak

    blonde, light, red hair
    red hair
    straight hair
    baldness*
    normal hairline



    Exodus 4:5-7 (Moses)

    And the Lord said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.

    And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh

    dura europos synagogue paintings - Moses and Hebrews Crossing Red Sea, pursued by Pharoah

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  • Thoth_MosheThoth_Moshe Member UncommonPosts: 240
    SEANMCAD said:

    HUMANITY however has orgins that pre-date that.

    Which the Bible speaks about.  Sumer also has stories about the great flood, its in the Epoch of Gilgamesh.  The Book of Enoch (who is one of the Prophets) talks about a time way before sumeria and known civilizations.  Book of Genesis talks about times before Sumeria.
  • KooturKootur Lynchburg, VAMember UncommonPosts: 135
    Eldurian
  • Thoth_MosheThoth_Moshe Member UncommonPosts: 240
    edited July 4

    Acts 13:1(KJV)

    Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/negus

    Definition of negus

    1. king —used as a title of the sovereign of Ethiopia


    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Niger&allowed_in_frame=0
    Niger Look up Niger at Dictionarycom
    African nation, named for the river Niger, mentioned by that name 1520s (Leo Africanus), probably an alteration (by influence of Latin niger "black")

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2015/05/22/history_of_slavery_in_the_united_states_samuel_sewall_s_the_selling_of_joseph.html

    “Caveat Emptor!”: The First Anti-Slavery Pamphlet Published in New England


    Page 3


    (These Ethiopians, as black as they are; seeing they are the Sons and 
    Daughters of the First Adam, the Brethren and Sister of the Last ADAM (Noah), and the 
    Offspring of GOD; They ought to be treated with a Respect agreeable.)

    Amos 9:7 (KJV)

    Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?



    From Babylon to Timbuktu page 84:

    In the year 65 B.C. the Roman armies under General Pompey captured Jerusalem. In 70 A.D. General Vespasian and his son Titus put a end to the Jewish state, with great slaughter. During the period of the military governors of Palestine, many outrages and atrocities were committed against the residue of the people. During the period from Pompey to Julius, it has been estimated that over 1,000,000 Jews fled into Africa, fleeing from Roman persecution and slavery. The slave markets were full of black Jewish slaves.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(AD_70)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouidah

    Ouidah /ˈwiːdə/, historically also called Whydah /ˈhwaɪdə/, Juda,[2] Juida by the French[3] and Ajudá by the Portuguese,[4] formally the Kingdom of Whydah

    The Kingdom of Whydah /ˈhwɪdə/ was a kingdom on the coast of West Africa in the boundaries of the modern nation of Benin. Between 1677 and 1681 it was conquered by the Akwamu, one of the Akan people.[1] It was a major slave trading post.

    Psalm 137King James Version (KJV)

    For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion.

    Remember, O Lord, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,078
    edited July 5
    Kootur said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Kootur said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Kootur said:
    Kind of puts to rest the afro-centric view. It seems the further back you go the more middle-eastern and more European the mummies dna gets.


    what? its always been understood that biblical orgins as well as the birth of civilization came from the middle east. Its just that middle easterners are not ...well...white


    holy blaz this thread is something.

    ok..if you take DNA samples of Egyptian mummies what you will find un-surpringly and painfully obviously is DNA of ...wait for it....EGYPATIANS! and MIDDLE EAST. holy blaz say it isnt so.

    The birth of civilization and biblical stories come from that region of the world. HUMANITY however has orgins that pre-date that.


    face plam
    There are some people that no matter how many times you show them this data they still claim otherwise.
    its as if you didnt read what I wrote.

    however to be fair i didnt fully get yours either.


    The likelyhood that Jesus was fair skinned is really low.  Its likely his DNA would have come from....Mesopotamia however humanity was around millions of years before egypt. Sumer is considered the birth of CIVILIZATION...not humanity
    He would have looked like most middle-easterners do same as the ancient Egyptians. He most certainly wasn't part of the negro race as Thoth_Moshe claims many groups around the planet were.
    I think you like Fake News CNN got something critically wrong.

    Ancient Egyptians come from Africa

    Its a timeline problem. It depends completely on where you are looking at the point in time.
    Current Egyptians unsurprisingly have a different background then those of 6000 years ago but the standing understanding if I am not mistaken is that Egyptians from father than 6000 years ago are from Africa.

    In other words, ancient Egyptians are both. they are from Mesopotamia and Mesopotamians are from Africa. at least that is my understanding. I should point out however Mesopotamia when it was highly fertile for all intents and purposes was africa. meaning people their moved to what is now africa and vice versa because its the same general area.


    As usual CNN is getting something slightly wrong and misleading people into a conservative agenda.

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  • Thoth_MosheThoth_Moshe Member UncommonPosts: 240
    SEANMCAD said:

    As usual CNN is getting something slightly wrong and misleading people into a conservative agenda.

    Exactly, they arent giving all the information.  And they know most people wont care to research more in depth.  They are telling people DNA of only about 170 mummies out the millions that were there in of a period of time (The New Kingdom as they indicated) when many foreigners were coming in for trade and commerce and probably for conquest.  On top of that the foreigners (mainly Middle Easterns) are mixed race, even the name "Arab" literally means "to mix".

    And there are Archaeologists that would point out Egyptians were a different race of people from Kemetians who predate so called Egypt.  And Kemet was more than Egypt, it expanded all the way to south Africa.  What they call the Old Kingdoms of Egypt is what is Kemet.

    Just look at all the different people that went through this land called Egypt

    http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/ant/egypt/kemet/virtualkemet/faq/

    "Were the people in Ancient Kemet the same groups of people who live Egypt today?

    No. Throughout Egypt’s history it had traded and fought with people from other countries. From around 750 BC the Nubian rulers, often called ‘The Kushites’ controlled Kemet and became its Twenty-fifth Dynasty. During this time Kemet enjoyed a renaissance, or return to earlier culture, as indicated by the promotion of the cult of the god Amun and also copies of earlier statues that were made by officials and the rulers."

    (Notice that they said they returned to earlier cultures of Egypt when the Nubians came around who are a Black people)(basically between the 18th-24th or so dynasty foreigners such as the hyksos were in rule of Egypt and then when Nubians came they took it back to its Kemetian roots, at least for a short time)

    "Later, the population was affected by the immigration of soldiers, traders and settlers from outside cultures, which included two Persian invasions in 525 BC and 343 BC; Macedonian Greeks who ruled Kemet from 332-30 BC; Romans, who took control of Kemet in 30 BC; and the Islamic settlement in AD 642."

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,078
    Kootur said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Kootur said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    Kootur said:
    Kind of puts to rest the afro-centric view. It seems the further back you go the more middle-eastern and more European the mummies dna gets.


    what? its always been understood that biblical orgins as well as the birth of civilization came from the middle east. Its just that middle easterners are not ...well...white


    holy blaz this thread is something.

    ok..if you take DNA samples of Egyptian mummies what you will find un-surpringly and painfully obviously is DNA of ...wait for it....EGYPATIANS! and MIDDLE EAST. holy blaz say it isnt so.

    The birth of civilization and biblical stories come from that region of the world. HUMANITY however has orgins that pre-date that.


    face plam
    There are some people that no matter how many times you show them this data they still claim otherwise.
    its as if you didnt read what I wrote.

    however to be fair i didnt fully get yours either.


    The likelyhood that Jesus was fair skinned is really low.  Its likely his DNA would have come from....Mesopotamia however humanity was around millions of years before egypt. Sumer is considered the birth of CIVILIZATION...not humanity
    He would have looked like most middle-easterners do same as the ancient Egyptians. He most certainly wasn't part of the negro race as Thoth_Moshe claims many groups around the planet were.
    Again, it depends on when you date stamp it. Are the mummies from Ancient Egypt? well duhhhh yes of course! only morons think that is not at least partly true.

    but what is ALSO true...is that Acient Egyptians came from...Africa...because Mesopotamia then was basically the same region because both was equally rich in natural growth

    do I have to say it 3 more times?

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  • KooturKootur Lynchburg, VAMember UncommonPosts: 135
    Africa does not equal = black. 
    MENA means, Middle-east and North Africa. The people of anceint egypt share more genetic traits with iraqis than they do kenyans.

    also LOL at CNN being "conservative" CNN is a far left organization.
    Eldurian
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,078
    Kootur said:
    Africa does not equal = black. 
    MENA means, Middle-east and North Africa. The people of anceint egypt share more genetic traits with iraqis than they do kenyans.

    also LOL at CNN being "conservative" CNN is a far left organization.
    1. I know Africa is not black its a geography, black is race. People like to say 'jesus was ultimately from africa' the ones who are speaking less well use the word 'black' but those people are commoners who dont understand the full context of what they are talking about kind of like you and CNN.

    2. CNN does push more on the conservative agenda then progressive ones..no doubt about it. I can cite you some examples if you are interested

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  • EldurianEldurian Member RarePosts: 1,412
    edited July 24
    SEANMCAD said:

    2. CNN does push more on the conservative agenda then progressive ones..no doubt about it. I can cite you some examples if you are interested
    CNN pushes more of an authoritarian agenda than a libertarian agenda like every major news network including Fox.

    But CNN pushes a left leaning authoritarian agenda which lines up with candidates such as war hawk Democrats like Hillary Clinton while Fox pushes a right learning authoritarian agenda like the main GOP excluding candidates such as Rand Paul and Austin Peterson. 

    CNN, MSNBC etc. may not be progressives, but they aren't right-leaning. That's for darn sure.
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    "Christ the Good Shepherd" Catacombs of Priscilla, Rome
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    1 Timothy 2:8

    “I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.”
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    Christ Coptic Museum, Cairo
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    I think the common theme in all the art in this post is that none of it is very good. Literally. I could do most of it myself. Ancient artists sometimes worked with limited pigments and many of them hadn't really perfected their techniques.

    I think using crude art from the medieval period (and some even older) as evidence of what race people were, is kind like if we discovered people's crayola drawings from the 1st grade in a thousand years and determined people were purple with green hair.
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