Summer Web Sale and some news that just went down

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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,898
    Torval said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Ponzini said:
    Distopia said:
    When you lay with the devil, you get burned. In this case the devil being business.....

    In the pursuit of money and success people are nothing but a stepping stone. People need to come to grips with that. Exclusives are rarely truly exclusive, in the entertainment industry especially. How do you think people who spend hundreds on convention exclusives (including price of entry/hotel stays etc..) feel when they see it on Thinkgeek for pennies to the dollar of what they paid? 

    The only decision you can trust these folks to make is the one that leads to more funds, that's the bottom line. 
    Man you guys are so dramatic. This was an extension of the kickstarter for 1 month for people who couldn't take part in the regular kickstarter campaign. How shit would it be to not include the same rewards everyone else got? Not everything has to be a scandal, my dudes. 
    Took you long enough
    Not quicker than you, slappy, and the happy crew. Think about that from your glass house.
    Me?  All I did was point out that it only took 3 weeks for them to break the "Kickstarter Exclusive" statement.  Don't worry... lots more to come.


    For the record yeah I agree that any company would be crazy to turn away revenue... that doesn't excuse blatant lying though.  If something is a Kickstarter Exclusive that means if goes away after Kickstarter.  There is no wiggle room.   If you want to sell it after Kickstarter don't call it an exclusive.  It's a pretty simple concept.

    Say what you mean and do what you say.  Simple stuff.


    Agree they need to keep selling stuff, I'd recommend space ships, people seem to love buying them.  ;)
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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCMember LegendaryPosts: 10,296
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    You say you never compromise
    With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
    He's not selling any alibis
    As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
    And say "Do you want to make a deal?"
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member RarePosts: 1,813
    I saw an interesting quote on Massively a while back concerning modern MMO development.  It was something along the lines of, "When there is more effort and innovation put into how to monetize a game than into the gameplay itself, this is what you get."
    d_20KyleranSlapshot1188Nyctelios
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember EpicPosts: 7,561
    Iselin said:
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    I know that.  You know that. But why then does the Summer Sale" still show a delivery date of December 2018?

    Again, Say what you mean and do what you say.

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • MaurgrimMaurgrim Member RarePosts: 832
    I didn't pledge to be a special snowflake, I pledge because I think this project are very interesting.
  • RealizerRealizer Member RarePosts: 674
    edited June 23
    Am I too early for the 4th of July sale? Or will it be Black Friday?  
    Post edited by Realizer on
  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,898
    Iselin said:
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    I know that.  You know that. But why then does the Summer Sale" still show a delivery date of December 2018?

    Again, Say what you mean and do what you say.
    The 2018 "delivery" date will be wordsmithed several times eventually landing on some term such as alpha, pre-alpha, early access or perhaps some creative new state knowing Steve.

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    On hiatus from EVE Online since Dec 2016 - CCP continues to wander aimlessly

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon




  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember EpicPosts: 7,561
    Kyleran said:
    Iselin said:
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    I know that.  You know that. But why then does the Summer Sale" still show a delivery date of December 2018?

    Again, Say what you mean and do what you say.
    The 2018 "delivery" date will be wordsmithed several times eventually landing on some term such as alpha, pre-alpha, early access or perhaps some creative new state knowing Steve.
    But the package showing Dec 18 has no Alpha, Beta or Early Access...

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • NycteliosNyctelios Novo Hamburgo - RS - BrazilMember EpicPosts: 2,257
    Torval said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Ponzini said:
    Distopia said:
    When you lay with the devil, you get burned. In this case the devil being business.....

    In the pursuit of money and success people are nothing but a stepping stone. People need to come to grips with that. Exclusives are rarely truly exclusive, in the entertainment industry especially. How do you think people who spend hundreds on convention exclusives (including price of entry/hotel stays etc..) feel when they see it on Thinkgeek for pennies to the dollar of what they paid? 

    The only decision you can trust these folks to make is the one that leads to more funds, that's the bottom line. 
    Man you guys are so dramatic. This was an extension of the kickstarter for 1 month for people who couldn't take part in the regular kickstarter campaign. How shit would it be to not include the same rewards everyone else got? Not everything has to be a scandal, my dudes. 
    Took you long enough
    Not quicker than you, slappy, and the happy crew. Think about that from your glass house.
    Yeah. I saw the video online and look how many people came here before me, but sure, I'm your anti christ, go on.

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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,898
    Kyleran said:
    Iselin said:
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    I know that.  You know that. But why then does the Summer Sale" still show a delivery date of December 2018?

    Again, Say what you mean and do what you say.
    The 2018 "delivery" date will be wordsmithed several times eventually landing on some term such as alpha, pre-alpha, early access or perhaps some creative new state knowing Steve.
    But the package showing Dec 18 has no Alpha, Beta or Early Access...
      Yet!

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    On hiatus from EVE Online since Dec 2016 - CCP continues to wander aimlessly

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon




  • NycteliosNyctelios Novo Hamburgo - RS - BrazilMember EpicPosts: 2,257
    Kyleran said:
    Kyleran said:
    Iselin said:
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    I know that.  You know that. But why then does the Summer Sale" still show a delivery date of December 2018?

    Again, Say what you mean and do what you say.
    The 2018 "delivery" date will be wordsmithed several times eventually landing on some term such as alpha, pre-alpha, early access or perhaps some creative new state knowing Steve.
    But the package showing Dec 18 has no Alpha, Beta or Early Access...
      Yet!
    Nothing that they can't photoshop later ;)

    " Tawnos's blueprints were critical to the creation of my armor. As he once sealed himself in steel, I sealed myself in a walking crypt. "
    —Urza

    - Steam ID Discord ID: Night # 6102
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 15,057
    Torval said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Ponzini said:
    Distopia said:
    When you lay with the devil, you get burned. In this case the devil being business.....

    In the pursuit of money and success people are nothing but a stepping stone. People need to come to grips with that. Exclusives are rarely truly exclusive, in the entertainment industry especially. How do you think people who spend hundreds on convention exclusives (including price of entry/hotel stays etc..) feel when they see it on Thinkgeek for pennies to the dollar of what they paid? 

    The only decision you can trust these folks to make is the one that leads to more funds, that's the bottom line. 
    Man you guys are so dramatic. This was an extension of the kickstarter for 1 month for people who couldn't take part in the regular kickstarter campaign. How shit would it be to not include the same rewards everyone else got? Not everything has to be a scandal, my dudes. 
    Took you long enough
    Not quicker than you, slappy, and the happy crew. Think about that from your glass house.
    Me?  All I did was point out that it only took 3 weeks for them to break the "Kickstarter Exclusive" statement.  Don't worry... lots more to come.


    For the record yeah I agree that any company would be crazy to turn away revenue... that doesn't excuse blatant lying though.  If something is a Kickstarter Exclusive that means if goes away after Kickstarter.  There is no wiggle room.   If you want to sell it after Kickstarter don't call it an exclusive.  It's a pretty simple concept.

    Say what you mean and do what you say.  Simple stuff.


    What does that have to do with what I said? You and your slappy crew jumped on here with your drama train, quicker than anyone else, no? Yeah.

    And for the record we all know you like to point fingers, thrown stones, and make vague accusations based on twisted half truths. You guys could make a club called the truth twisters and pat yourselves on the back and keep track of who slings the most mud or make the most clever underhanded comment. That's just an observation of all you ever bring to a discussion in these threads.
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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,898
    Nyctelios said:
    Torval said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Ponzini said:
    Distopia said:
    When you lay with the devil, you get burned. In this case the devil being business.....

    In the pursuit of money and success people are nothing but a stepping stone. People need to come to grips with that. Exclusives are rarely truly exclusive, in the entertainment industry especially. How do you think people who spend hundreds on convention exclusives (including price of entry/hotel stays etc..) feel when they see it on Thinkgeek for pennies to the dollar of what they paid? 

    The only decision you can trust these folks to make is the one that leads to more funds, that's the bottom line. 
    Man you guys are so dramatic. This was an extension of the kickstarter for 1 month for people who couldn't take part in the regular kickstarter campaign. How shit would it be to not include the same rewards everyone else got? Not everything has to be a scandal, my dudes. 
    Took you long enough
    Not quicker than you, slappy, and the happy crew. Think about that from your glass house.
    Yeah. I saw the video online and look how many people came here before me, but sure, I'm your anti christ, go on.
    Which got me to thinking, the best thing about living in a glass house is you can see so much more clearly than other folks it seems.

    :)

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    On hiatus from EVE Online since Dec 2016 - CCP continues to wander aimlessly

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
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  • coretex666coretex666 PragueMember RarePosts: 3,232
    edited June 24
    Torval said:
    Torval said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Ponzini said:
    Distopia said:
    When you lay with the devil, you get burned. In this case the devil being business.....

    In the pursuit of money and success people are nothing but a stepping stone. People need to come to grips with that. Exclusives are rarely truly exclusive, in the entertainment industry especially. How do you think people who spend hundreds on convention exclusives (including price of entry/hotel stays etc..) feel when they see it on Thinkgeek for pennies to the dollar of what they paid? 

    The only decision you can trust these folks to make is the one that leads to more funds, that's the bottom line. 
    Man you guys are so dramatic. This was an extension of the kickstarter for 1 month for people who couldn't take part in the regular kickstarter campaign. How shit would it be to not include the same rewards everyone else got? Not everything has to be a scandal, my dudes. 
    Took you long enough
    Not quicker than you, slappy, and the happy crew. Think about that from your glass house.
    Me?  All I did was point out that it only took 3 weeks for them to break the "Kickstarter Exclusive" statement.  Don't worry... lots more to come.


    For the record yeah I agree that any company would be crazy to turn away revenue... that doesn't excuse blatant lying though.  If something is a Kickstarter Exclusive that means if goes away after Kickstarter.  There is no wiggle room.   If you want to sell it after Kickstarter don't call it an exclusive.  It's a pretty simple concept.

    Say what you mean and do what you say.  Simple stuff.


    What does that have to do with what I said? You and your slappy crew jumped on here with your drama train, quicker than anyone else, no? Yeah.

    And for the record we all know you like to point fingers, thrown stones, and make vague accusations based on twisted half truths. You guys could make a club called the truth twisters and pat yourselves on the back and keep track of who slings the most mud or make the most clever underhanded comment. That's just an observation of all you ever bring to a discussion in these threads.
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    Post edited by coretex666 on
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember EpicPosts: 7,561
    Torval said:
    Torval said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Ponzini said:
    Distopia said:
    When you lay with the devil, you get burned. In this case the devil being business.....

    In the pursuit of money and success people are nothing but a stepping stone. People need to come to grips with that. Exclusives are rarely truly exclusive, in the entertainment industry especially. How do you think people who spend hundreds on convention exclusives (including price of entry/hotel stays etc..) feel when they see it on Thinkgeek for pennies to the dollar of what they paid? 

    The only decision you can trust these folks to make is the one that leads to more funds, that's the bottom line. 
    Man you guys are so dramatic. This was an extension of the kickstarter for 1 month for people who couldn't take part in the regular kickstarter campaign. How shit would it be to not include the same rewards everyone else got? Not everything has to be a scandal, my dudes. 
    Took you long enough
    Not quicker than you, slappy, and the happy crew. Think about that from your glass house.
    Me?  All I did was point out that it only took 3 weeks for them to break the "Kickstarter Exclusive" statement.  Don't worry... lots more to come.


    For the record yeah I agree that any company would be crazy to turn away revenue... that doesn't excuse blatant lying though.  If something is a Kickstarter Exclusive that means if goes away after Kickstarter.  There is no wiggle room.   If you want to sell it after Kickstarter don't call it an exclusive.  It's a pretty simple concept.

    Say what you mean and do what you say.  Simple stuff.


    What does that have to do with what I said? You and your slappy crew jumped on here with your drama train, quicker than anyone else, no? Yeah.

    And for the record we all know you like to point fingers, thrown stones, and make vague accusations based on twisted half truths. You guys could make a club called the truth twisters and pat yourselves on the back and keep track of who slings the most mud or make the most clever underhanded comment. That's just an observation of all you ever bring to a discussion in these threads.
    My accusation was neither vague nor a half truth.  They sold a Kickstarter Exclusive Lifetime Sub.  They elected to sell it again in their Summer Sale.  Sorry if facts get in the way of defending this but it's pretty clearly black and white. 
    Kyleran

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaMember EpicPosts: 13,200
    I saw an interesting quote on Massively a while back concerning modern MMO development.  It was something along the lines of, "When there is more effort and innovation put into how to monetize a game than into the gameplay itself, this is what you get."
    I have used this same quote a few times in the past and it is becoming a very common trend among game devs.Just look at how fast some of these games pop out and already have a full cash shop but very little game.Many games now are already selling cash shop well before there is even a game,actually the majority are doing it.

    So we used to scoff at devs using ANY kind of cash shop,now they seem to be getting away with it before they have a game,so where did we go wrong?Well your fellow gamer's are to blame for supporting such rubbish.
    99% of the cash shop/monetizing in games should NOT be there.The majority of games are just cheap single player games and should carry a one time fee of 5-15 bucks and no more.The better games should be a one time fee of 30-75 bucks and nothing more.i have said it for awhile now,MOST games should NOT have a login screen or claim to be a MMO,they only utilize their games as a mmo/login so they can support a cash shop.



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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 15,057
    Torval said:
    Torval said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Ponzini said:
    Distopia said:
    When you lay with the devil, you get burned. In this case the devil being business.....

    In the pursuit of money and success people are nothing but a stepping stone. People need to come to grips with that. Exclusives are rarely truly exclusive, in the entertainment industry especially. How do you think people who spend hundreds on convention exclusives (including price of entry/hotel stays etc..) feel when they see it on Thinkgeek for pennies to the dollar of what they paid? 

    The only decision you can trust these folks to make is the one that leads to more funds, that's the bottom line. 
    Man you guys are so dramatic. This was an extension of the kickstarter for 1 month for people who couldn't take part in the regular kickstarter campaign. How shit would it be to not include the same rewards everyone else got? Not everything has to be a scandal, my dudes. 
    Took you long enough
    Not quicker than you, slappy, and the happy crew. Think about that from your glass house.
    Me?  All I did was point out that it only took 3 weeks for them to break the "Kickstarter Exclusive" statement.  Don't worry... lots more to come.


    For the record yeah I agree that any company would be crazy to turn away revenue... that doesn't excuse blatant lying though.  If something is a Kickstarter Exclusive that means if goes away after Kickstarter.  There is no wiggle room.   If you want to sell it after Kickstarter don't call it an exclusive.  It's a pretty simple concept.

    Say what you mean and do what you say.  Simple stuff.


    What does that have to do with what I said? You and your slappy crew jumped on here with your drama train, quicker than anyone else, no? Yeah.

    And for the record we all know you like to point fingers, thrown stones, and make vague accusations based on twisted half truths. You guys could make a club called the truth twisters and pat yourselves on the back and keep track of who slings the most mud or make the most clever underhanded comment. That's just an observation of all you ever bring to a discussion in these threads.
    My accusation was neither vague nor a half truth.  They sold a Kickstarter Exclusive Lifetime Sub.  They elected to sell it again in their Summer Sale.  Sorry if facts get in the way of defending this but it's pretty clearly black and white. 
    There's nothing to defend because there is no issue.
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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Elmira, ONMember EpicPosts: 5,904
    Just out of curiosity, was it ever said that this would never be offered again? To be honest, I went back on web archive and the Image never said Exclusive, but the KS packages DID say exclusive. HOWEVER, this whole exclusive argument is pointless because you could offer lifetime subscription as an "exclusive" in two different packages. Exclusive doesn't seem to mean what some believe it to mean. It sounds flashy, but it really doesn't mean what people think it does. 

    It's actually funny because people seem to pick and choose what terms that they want to use literal definitions for. In this case, the literal definition makes no mention of it never being offered again. Unless that was stated somewhere else, in which case I'd agree. I haven't seen that, though, although I haven't searched all that much. 

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember EpicPosts: 7,561
    Huh?  Kickstarter Exclusive means it's only available on Kickstarter.  Are we really going to debate what Exclusive means? SMH

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,600
    Iselin said:
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    I know that.  You know that. But why then does the Summer Sale" still show a delivery date of December 2018?

    Again, Say what you mean and do what you say.
    Delivery date has been covered many times, thats for the start of Alpha and Beta not game launch. Little reading explains that.
    TorvalSlapshot1188



  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,600
    Huh?  Kickstarter Exclusive means it's only available on Kickstarter.  Are we really going to debate what Exclusive means? SMH
    So do you keep all promises no matter what the cost? Picture a world that lived by that. As imperfect people we make mistakes, even in our good will of making promises. Steve set up the KS with the mind set to make us happy in backing IS. Later he saw a problem that needed to be addressed. He posted he made a mistake and would correct it. He did the right thing in breaking his promise to show all fans of the game they mattered. Not just people who had a credit card. This is the kind of game company I like to follow. Willing to make things right, even when they have to take a little mud in the face. I am cheering on the side line over this action and hope they keep walking in the same direction. They won me over a little more with this.



  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 15,057
    Nanfoodle said:
    Iselin said:
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    I know that.  You know that. But why then does the Summer Sale" still show a delivery date of December 2018?

    Again, Say what you mean and do what you say.
    Delivery date has been covered many times, thats for the start of Alpha and Beta not game launch. Little reading explains that.

    He knows that because he prides himself on being "informed" and continually reminds the rest of the forum just how informed he is on all of these issues. So he knew it but he chose to make unsubstantiated or vague subversive statements as a fear and doubt tactic - to undermine confidence. That's his mode of operation.
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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 15,057
    CrazKanuk said:
    Just out of curiosity, was it ever said that this would never be offered again? To be honest, I went back on web archive and the Image never said Exclusive, but the KS packages DID say exclusive. HOWEVER, this whole exclusive argument is pointless because you could offer lifetime subscription as an "exclusive" in two different packages. Exclusive doesn't seem to mean what some believe it to mean. It sounds flashy, but it really doesn't mean what people think it does. 

    It's actually funny because people seem to pick and choose what terms that they want to use literal definitions for. In this case, the literal definition makes no mention of it never being offered again. Unless that was stated somewhere else, in which case I'd agree. I haven't seen that, though, although I haven't searched all that much. 
    And that's why it's a non-issue. But more importantly it's a non-issue because a huge portion of the community asked for this very thing. A month wasn't long enough and KS excludes a significant portion of the fanbase. For people in the community they are listening and delivering what is asked. The community is huge so they're trying to accommodate as many of us as possible while ruffling the least feathers. As anyone can see from these threads (or Pantheon, or SC, or CU, or Crowfall), that is a hard order to fill.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember EpicPosts: 7,561
    Nanfoodle said:
    Iselin said:
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    I know that.  You know that. But why then does the Summer Sale" still show a delivery date of December 2018?

    Again, Say what you mean and do what you say.
    Delivery date has been covered many times, thats for the start of Alpha and Beta not game launch. Little reading explains that.
    So help me with my reading.   The $25 package has no Alpha or Beta associated with it.  It's ETA is Dec 18.  Why?

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,600
    edited June 23
    Nanfoodle said:
    Iselin said:
    Yet another over-promise, under-deliver KS campaign.  
    None of them deliver until they deliver.

    You guys do know you're talking about a game that may or may not be launched in 2022... right?
    I know that.  You know that. But why then does the Summer Sale" still show a delivery date of December 2018?

    Again, Say what you mean and do what you say.
    Delivery date has been covered many times, thats for the start of Alpha and Beta not game launch. Little reading explains that.
    So help me with my reading.   The $25 package has no Alpha or Beta associated with it.  It's ETA is Dec 18.  Why?
    FAQ right off the KS page....

    Kickstarter Alphas is currently scheduled to launch in 2018, with Betas following after that. Note, this schedule is subject to change based on development milestones.
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    Keep stirring the pot, you only getting poop all over yourself. 

    EDIT: Also you are not new to MMOs, everyone knows projected dates are always placeholders and subject to change depending on RL happening at every turn. 

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