Crowfall's $7,000 Castle

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Nashville, TNMember EpicPosts: 3,060
    Yes, not dropping 7k on a digital castle is obviously a sign that someone is broke.

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  • Saddom321Saddom321 Lappa, GAMember UncommonPosts: 3


    Saddom321 said:
    That's some serious greed.. usually leads to p2w cash shop stuff later on.
    How the fuck is that greed? They have a company to run and if someone is so compelled by this that they want a cosmetic item worth 7 grand then by all means let them spend the money.  After all it's the rest of us who benefit from it.

    Some people have that kind of money and don't mind spending it, sounds more like you're broke and jealous.
    If that's not greed then I don't know what the hell is.
  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 23,231
    Saddom321 said:


    Saddom321 said:
    That's some serious greed.. usually leads to p2w cash shop stuff later on.
    How the fuck is that greed? They have a company to run and if someone is so compelled by this that they want a cosmetic item worth 7 grand then by all means let them spend the money.  After all it's the rest of us who benefit from it.

    Some people have that kind of money and don't mind spending it, sounds more like you're broke and jealous.
    If that's not greed then I don't know what the hell is.
    Well, let's play devil's advocate.

    We know there are games out there that rely upon people spending large amounts of money. I seem to remember a space game, I think Entropia Universe, was like this.

    If a developer wants to create a game, a bit of entertainment, for those people who have large amounts of disposable income, then "why not"?

    I mean, there are country clubs that require large amounts to join, an Uncle of mine was part of a yacht as well as a swim club which had very high dues.

    We have movie theaters in the area that provide a premium experience, no kids allowed, and the tickets are $20+ or so.

    Now, I'm not going to argue whether "this" game might be worth it, that's for its players to decide.

    However, I see no reason why a game can't be built with monetization that allows for very extreme content for those who are willing to pay.

    So why shouldn't there be a game that charges $7000 for castles? Maybe it has a small population but those people playing it get a tailored experience for their money.



  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaMember EpicPosts: 13,200
    I won't pretend to know more because i stopped paying attention when i noticed the game was doing it all wrong.It most certainly is a p2w design and a cash grab.Soon i saw how they didn't care about ruining the integrity of the game selling plots in some cash shop,i was like ok this game is off my radar.
    Once a cash shop starts,it never ends,more intrusive stuff sold until people stop,feel sick to their stomach that after investing a ton of money they wish they never went down that path.

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  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In .. RomaniaMember RarePosts: 1,701
    edited August 29
    Wizardry said:
    I won't pretend to know more because i stopped paying attention when i noticed the game was doing it all wrong.It most certainly is a p2w design and a cash grab.Soon i saw how they didn't care about ruining the integrity of the game selling plots in some cash shop,i was like ok this game is off my radar.
    Once a cash shop starts,it never ends,more intrusive stuff sold until people stop,feel sick to their stomach that after investing a ton of money they wish they never went down that path.
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    Saddom321 said:


    Saddom321 said:
    That's some serious greed.. usually leads to p2w cash shop stuff later on.
    How the fuck is that greed? They have a company to run and if someone is so compelled by this that they want a cosmetic item worth 7 grand then by all means let them spend the money.  After all it's the rest of us who benefit from it.

    Some people have that kind of money and don't mind spending it, sounds more like you're broke and jealous.
    If that's not greed then I don't know what the hell is.

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    ( Whats wrong with "quote-ing" ? From here starts my comment )

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    Ignoring the fact that a company allowing the purchase of a "castel" worth of 7k , in "favor" of "we all benefit from it" , it makes you the perfect "customer" of those kind of "dev's". You cannot simply blindly support a company which are doing this just because in theory , you love what you read/see about the game at this stage. 

    I will never support such companies which develops a game based on "whales" ( see Star Citizen ) . That means they will create the game around those "whales", even after the game "launches". 


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  • hfztthfztt GlostrupMember RarePosts: 1,258
    Look under Guild Strongholds.  The most expensive one is an Imperial Castle for $7,000.  That's some SotA-level shit.  And if I'm not mistaken, it's not just cosmetic.  Sorry, since the forum update, pressing enter does not advance me to the next line.  https://crowfall.com/en/store/#store-item-detail-popup

    Only $7000 ??!?

    Thats nothing... Star Citizen has that one beat.
  • DrunkWolfDrunkWolf Member UncommonPosts: 1,329
    hfztt said:
    Look under Guild Strongholds.  The most expensive one is an Imperial Castle for $7,000.  That's some SotA-level shit.  And if I'm not mistaken, it's not just cosmetic.  Sorry, since the forum update, pressing enter does not advance me to the next line.  https://crowfall.com/en/store/#store-item-detail-popup

    Only $7000 ??!?

    Thats nothing... Star Citizen has that one beat.
    cash grabs.

    sad really, some people hate their money enough to pay this.
  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In .. RomaniaMember RarePosts: 1,701
    edited August 29
    Geezes! I just saw the prices from https://crowfall.com/en/store/#store-item-detail-popup

    Are you fucking kidding me?! This makes Star Citizen looks like a little girl wearing pink sneakers , while Crowfall is wearing diamond sneakers!

    And my favorite : Note: package still in development. All pieces will be painted prior to launch!

    At least in SC, you can actually play the pixels ( if I am not wrong ) , while here all you have is a paint and some text. 

    Well , I hope the game will stand up with the name : CrowFALL

    EDIT: @hfztt shows me that actually, SC is wearing the diamond sneakers! My bad :) Everything else stands.
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  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member RarePosts: 1,091
    IceAge said:
    Geezes! I just saw the prices from https://crowfall.com/en/store/#store-item-detail-popup

    Are you fucking kidding me?! This makes Star Citizen looks like a little girl wearing pink sneakers , while Crowfall is wearing diamond sneakers!

    And my favorite : Note: package still in development. All pieces will be painted prior to launch!

    At least in SC, you can actually play the pixels ( if I am not wrong ) , while here all you have is a paint and some text. 

    Well , I hope the game will stand up with the name : CrowFALL

    EDIT: @hfztt shows me that actually, SC is wearing the diamond sneakers! My bad :) Everything else stands.
    Don't you mean Crowfail?

    I'm just kidding, I have high hopes for this game and look forward to pay...playing.
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  • Jamar870Jamar870 Gilbertsville, PAMember UncommonPosts: 175
    Yes, not dropping 7k on a digital castle is obviously a sign that someone is broke.
    May we assume you forgot to add a sarcasm indicator?  Otherwise some people who play these games don't earn 6 figure or higher incomes or have no sense.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Chicago, ILMember EpicPosts: 6,262
    The general rule is that you charge what the market can bare.  I won't buy a 7k castle but if someone else wants to then good for them. Other games charge 15k, 10k, for digital rental rights and people pay.  I hope it's worth it for them.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Nashville, TNMember EpicPosts: 3,060
    Jamar870 said:
    Yes, not dropping 7k on a digital castle is obviously a sign that someone is broke.
    May we assume you forgot to add a sarcasm indicator?  Otherwise some people who play these games don't earn 6 figure or higher incomes or have no sense.
    I was hoping my wording was clear enough without it.  But yes, it was definitely sarcasm.  :p

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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 23,231
    DrunkWolf said:
    hfztt said:
    Look under Guild Strongholds.  The most expensive one is an Imperial Castle for $7,000.  That's some SotA-level shit.  And if I'm not mistaken, it's not just cosmetic.  Sorry, since the forum update, pressing enter does not advance me to the next line.  https://crowfall.com/en/store/#store-item-detail-popup

    Only $7000 ??!?

    Thats nothing... Star Citizen has that one beat.
    cash grabs.

    sad really, some people hate their money enough to pay this.
    I would once again say that "you aren't the demographic they are catering to".

    For some reason players think that every game has to be x, y and z, has to have x, y and z and of course is made for everyone.

    As far as hating their money, hardly so. It's just that you aren't in the crowd that spends thousands every week "because they can and they want to".

    There are people who have salaries well into 6 figures, it's very possible that they don't spend money on certain things but love other things and therefore spending their money on this type of entertainment, on an experience, is right up their alley.

    It's not "my" thing but as long as they are taking care of their bills/savings/retirement/family, etc then I don't see an issue.
    KyleranJamesGoblin



  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In .. RomaniaMember RarePosts: 1,701
    The general rule is that you charge what the market can bare.  I won't buy a 7k castle but if someone else wants to then good for them. Other games charge 15k, 10k, for digital rental rights and people pay.  I hope it's worth it for them.
    For the love of games, it's wrong man! Is so fucking wrong. 

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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 23,231
    IceAge said:
    The general rule is that you charge what the market can bare.  I won't buy a 7k castle but if someone else wants to then good for them. Other games charge 15k, 10k, for digital rental rights and people pay.  I hope it's worth it for them.
    For the love of games, it's wrong man! Is so fucking wrong. 
    Only if you think that every video game has to be made for the every man.

    I'm going to assume that you also think multi million dollar mansions, luxury/sports cars, fine suits and high end jewelry are all wrong (among other things). Perfectly fine if you do.
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  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn belleville, ILMember RarePosts: 3,068
    If you're willing to lay down 7k, I can accept that you get a few perks.  It's too rich for my blood, but more power to you.
    JamesGoblin

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Nashville, TNMember EpicPosts: 3,060
    Sovrath said:
    IceAge said:
    The general rule is that you charge what the market can bare.  I won't buy a 7k castle but if someone else wants to then good for them. Other games charge 15k, 10k, for digital rental rights and people pay.  I hope it's worth it for them.
    For the love of games, it's wrong man! Is so fucking wrong. 
    Only if you think that every video game has to be made for the every man.

    I'm going to assume that you also think multi million dollar mansions, luxury/sports cars, fine suits and high end jewelry are all wrong (among other things). Perfectly fine if you do.
    Sovrath said:
    IceAge said:
    The general rule is that you charge what the market can bare.  I won't buy a 7k castle but if someone else wants to then good for them. Other games charge 15k, 10k, for digital rental rights and people pay.  I hope it's worth it for them.
    For the love of games, it's wrong man! Is so fucking wrong. 
    Only if you think that every video game has to be made for the every man.

    I'm going to assume that you also think multi million dollar mansions, luxury/sports cars, fine suits and high end jewelry are all wrong (among other things). Perfectly fine if you do.
    I don't necessarily disagree with the logic Sov, but I've made the point elsewhere: one of the keynotes of video gaming, specifically multiplayer gaming, is that folks are not stratified based upon real life socioeconomic status.

    With crowdfunding and F2P, that's beginning to creep into the genre.  Considering the "class warfare" that continues to rage within the U.S., I think there's strong, logical reasoning behind not wanting to see it included in such a hobaby that, traditionally, avoided such detriments.
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  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In .. RomaniaMember RarePosts: 1,701
    edited August 29
    Sovrath said:
    IceAge said:
    The general rule is that you charge what the market can bare.  I won't buy a 7k castle but if someone else wants to then good for them. Other games charge 15k, 10k, for digital rental rights and people pay.  I hope it's worth it for them.
    For the love of games, it's wrong man! Is so fucking wrong. 
    Only if you think that every video game has to be made for the every man.

    I'm going to assume that you also think multi million dollar mansions, luxury/sports cars, fine suits and high end jewelry are all wrong (among other things). Perfectly fine if you do.
    You are comparing real life with video games, which is sad coming from you since I "know" you from the beginnings.

    I have nothing against whatever you said. I am very much against people paying huge sum of cash to have advantage and to feed the greedy dev's. 

    If real life was all about "having fun" , then your point could stand. Video games, from my point of view, are about having fun! Saying that someone who is paying 7k wants to have fun is wrong. They pay that sum of cash for personal reasons such as : having a big advantage over others, fame , and alike. 

    I stand 100% against this shit, no matter whatever "reasons" X or Y are having for paying that cash in a video game, especially MMO's , because that is the very main point. If the game was single player , then fuck it. Pay 1 mil, I don't care. Close yourself in a basement , pay 1 mil and play the game solo. But when other players are involved, then we have a problem.
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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 23,231
    IceAge said:
    Sovrath said:
    IceAge said:
    The general rule is that you charge what the market can bare.  I won't buy a 7k castle but if someone else wants to then good for them. Other games charge 15k, 10k, for digital rental rights and people pay.  I hope it's worth it for them.
    For the love of games, it's wrong man! Is so fucking wrong. 
    Only if you think that every video game has to be made for the every man.

    I'm going to assume that you also think multi million dollar mansions, luxury/sports cars, fine suits and high end jewelry are all wrong (among other things). Perfectly fine if you do.
    You are comparing real life with video games, which is sad coming from you since I "know" you from the beginnings.

    I have nothing against whatever you said. I am very much against people paying huge sum of cash to have advantage and to feed the greedy dev's. 

    If real life was all about "having fun" , then your point could stand. Video games, from my point of view, are about having fun! Saying that someone who is paying 7k wants to have fun is wrong. They pay that sum of cash for personal reasons such as : having a big advantage over others, fame , and alike. 

    I stand 100% against this shit, no matter whatever "reasons" X or Y are having for paying that cash in a video game, especially MMO's , because that is the very main point. If the game was single player , then fuck it. Pay 1 mil, I don't care. Close yourself in a basement , pay 1 mil and play the game solo. But when other players are involved, then we have a problem.
    Well, now wait a minute, I beg to differ.

    Having a luxury car is (in my opinion) an indulgence. SAme with a sports car same with a mansion.

    Buying expensive jewelry "just because" is also an indulgence and the indulgences are for the pleasure of it.

    Also, and you might dislike it, my life is literally about maximizing my fun. No joke, everything I do in my life is to minimize things I dislike and to maximize my enjoyment. also to minimize stress.

    Now, not everyone wants to do that and of course have a life like that but I can assure you, i'm not the only one.
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  • IceAgeIceAge SomeWhere In .. RomaniaMember RarePosts: 1,701
    edited August 29
    Sovrath said:
    IceAge said:
    Sovrath said:
    IceAge said:
    The general rule is that you charge what the market can bare.  I won't buy a 7k castle but if someone else wants to then good for them. Other games charge 15k, 10k, for digital rental rights and people pay.  I hope it's worth it for them.
    For the love of games, it's wrong man! Is so fucking wrong. 
    Only if you think that every video game has to be made for the every man.

    I'm going to assume that you also think multi million dollar mansions, luxury/sports cars, fine suits and high end jewelry are all wrong (among other things). Perfectly fine if you do.
    You are comparing real life with video games, which is sad coming from you since I "know" you from the beginnings.

    I have nothing against whatever you said. I am very much against people paying huge sum of cash to have advantage and to feed the greedy dev's. 

    If real life was all about "having fun" , then your point could stand. Video games, from my point of view, are about having fun! Saying that someone who is paying 7k wants to have fun is wrong. They pay that sum of cash for personal reasons such as : having a big advantage over others, fame , and alike. 

    I stand 100% against this shit, no matter whatever "reasons" X or Y are having for paying that cash in a video game, especially MMO's , because that is the very main point. If the game was single player , then fuck it. Pay 1 mil, I don't care. Close yourself in a basement , pay 1 mil and play the game solo. But when other players are involved, then we have a problem.
    Well, now wait a minute, I beg to differ.

    Having a luxury car is (in my opinion) an indulgence. SAme with a sports car same with a mansion.

    Buying expensive jewelry "just because" is also an indulgence and the indulgences are for the pleasure of it.

    Also, and you might dislike it, my life is literally about maximizing my fun. No joke, everything I do in my life is to minimize things I dislike and to maximize my enjoyment. also to minimize stress.

    Now, not everyone wants to do that and of course have a life like that but I can assure you, i'm not the only one.
    Keep repeating yourself that video games = real life . It seems you didn't quiet understood what I said. 

    I don't care what you do with your life, is your life at the end of the day. What I do care is if you are going to ruin my fun in-game , by paying whatever you earn in real life , just to come online and be that "cool kid". 

    Good thing is that I never step foot in such games, but that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. 

    From the look of whatever you said, it seems you are also paying your "fun" in-games. Which is a shame. 
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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,903
    Sovrath said:
    IceAge said:
    Sovrath said:
    IceAge said:
    The general rule is that you charge what the market can bare.  I won't buy a 7k castle but if someone else wants to then good for them. Other games charge 15k, 10k, for digital rental rights and people pay.  I hope it's worth it for them.
    For the love of games, it's wrong man! Is so fucking wrong. 
    Only if you think that every video game has to be made for the every man.

    I'm going to assume that you also think multi million dollar mansions, luxury/sports cars, fine suits and high end jewelry are all wrong (among other things). Perfectly fine if you do.
    You are comparing real life with video games, which is sad coming from you since I "know" you from the beginnings.

    I have nothing against whatever you said. I am very much against people paying huge sum of cash to have advantage and to feed the greedy dev's. 

    If real life was all about "having fun" , then your point could stand. Video games, from my point of view, are about having fun! Saying that someone who is paying 7k wants to have fun is wrong. They pay that sum of cash for personal reasons such as : having a big advantage over others, fame , and alike. 

    I stand 100% against this shit, no matter whatever "reasons" X or Y are having for paying that cash in a video game, especially MMO's , because that is the very main point. If the game was single player , then fuck it. Pay 1 mil, I don't care. Close yourself in a basement , pay 1 mil and play the game solo. But when other players are involved, then we have a problem.
    Well, now wait a minute, I beg to differ.

    Having a luxury car is (in my opinion) an indulgence. SAme with a sports car same with a mansion.

    Buying expensive jewelry "just because" is also an indulgence and the indulgences are for the pleasure of it.

    Also, and you might dislike it, my life is literally about maximizing my fun. No joke, everything I do in my life is to minimize things I dislike and to maximize my enjoyment. also to minimize stress.

    Now, not everyone wants to do that and of course have a life like that but I can assure you, i'm not the only one.
    Yours is a very common attitude among older single people,  which I believe you are, right?

    My sister is also very much like this which is so different from mine which has been shaped by decades of being responsible for the well being of my family.

    Rarely did I get to consider my personal happiness, or at least not as a priority. 

    B)

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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 23,231
    edited August 29
    Kyleran said:

    Yours is a very common attitude among older single people,  which I believe you are, right?

    My sister is also very much like this which is so different from mine which has been shaped by decades of being responsible for the well being of my family.

    Rarely did I get to consider my personal happiness, or at least not as a priority. 

    B)

    Absolutely, I'm an older (50) single person! Getting married is always an option but never wanted a family.

    I always date women who have the same outlook on life so as not to run into any issues.

    I could go on and on about one of my exes who loved shoes and would buy many, very expensive shoes!
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Nashville, TNMember EpicPosts: 3,060
    Sovrath said:
    Kyleran said:

    Yours is a very common attitude among older single people,  which I believe you are, right?

    My sister is also very much like this which is so different from mine which has been shaped by decades of being responsible for the well being of my family.

    Rarely did I get to consider my personal happiness, or at least not as a priority. 

    B)

    Absolutely, I'm an older (50) single person! Getting married is always an option but never wanted a family.

    I always date women who have the same outlook on life so as not to run into any issues.

    I could go on and on about one of my exes who loved shoes and would buy many, very expensive shoes!
    Hubba hubba!  Tell us about them all...  Spare no detail! ;)
    JamesGoblin

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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 23,231
    edited August 29
    IceAge said:

    Keep repeating yourself that video games = real life . It seems you didn't quiet understood what I said. 

    I don't care what you do with your life, is your life at the end of the day. What I do care is if you are going to ruin my fun in-game , by paying whatever you earn in real life , just to come online and be that "cool kid". 

    Good thing is that I never step foot in such games, but that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. 

    From the look of whatever you said, it seems you are also paying your "fun" in-games. Which is a shame. 
    You seem to be asserting one thing "I don't care what you do with your life" but you then have issue with people doing what they want.

    Especially because you are not listening.

    I'm saying that these games that charge considerable amounts for "tailored" experiences", high end experiences "whatever" aren't aimed at you.

    You think they are but they are not.

    You SHOULDN'T be playing these games as they are tailored to a different crowd, those who "want to spend how they want to spend".

    But you have the idea that all video games are catering to the same demographic.

    As far as "thinking video games are real life" you are just going to have to explain yourself better because they are very much "real life".

    you spend money on them, you spend time talking about them and you spend time playing them.

    They are an entertainment, an indulgence. Just like splurging on a sports car is an indulgence.

    Or an even better analogy, spending premium dollars for a theater ticket (Hamilton tickets can get into the thousands). You are essentially looking at life through your own lens and not seeing that it really should be more of a prism. You just don't take into account that the experiences of others, the desires of others are going to be vastly different.

    You "think" that this is going to affect you but most likely it will not. You will play the games made for your demographic (and mine as well, I'm not going to spend thousands for this type of experience) and others will play the games that cater to them.

    Lastly, and this is the most important, you need to learn what the term "Devil's Advocate" means.
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  • SovrathSovrath Boston Area, MAMember LegendaryPosts: 23,231
    Sovrath said:
    Kyleran said:

    Yours is a very common attitude among older single people,  which I believe you are, right?

    My sister is also very much like this which is so different from mine which has been shaped by decades of being responsible for the well being of my family.

    Rarely did I get to consider my personal happiness, or at least not as a priority. 

    B)

    Absolutely, I'm an older (50) single person! Getting married is always an option but never wanted a family.

    I always date women who have the same outlook on life so as not to run into any issues.

    I could go on and on about one of my exes who loved shoes and would buy many, very expensive shoes!
    Hubba hubba!  Tell us about them all...  Spare no detail! ;)
    I'd rather go into how much closet space they took ...
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