Crowfall's $7,000 Castle

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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,288
    cheyane said:
    Instead of rushing here like 'chicken little' to start a topic you could have done a few searches and found the answer easily.
    WTF post of the day.

    Discussion forum, nuff said.
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  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member RarePosts: 1,726
    genaknosc said:
    Why is there even a whole page of people discussing P2W here when nobody involved in the debate even knows anything about Crowfall EK's. lol, people complaining about shit they don't even understand

    Because people aren't reading the entire thread before responding.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,600
    genaknosc said:
    Why is there even a whole page of people discussing P2W here when nobody involved in the debate even knows anything about Crowfall EK's. lol, people complaining about shit they don't even understand
    There is many request for someone to explain why buying a castle is not p2w. So having an castle off the bat in this zone gives no advantages? Its mostly cosmetic?
    Gdemami



  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member RarePosts: 988
    edited June 9
    Sucker Palace, that is.
    ^

    If it has no advantage in pvp like guy above me said then it is just cosmetic like in SotA right?

    Maybe they just put it up there to see if anyone bites, kinda like how sometimes people put hot dogs on their fishing lines.
    Post edited by BruceYee on
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  • coretex666coretex666 PragueMember RarePosts: 3,209
    Any game where you can buy ingame assets with real cash is automatically off my radar.

    Castles for 7k USD... I would not touch this game with a stick.


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  • FilterheadzFilterheadz KarmaLoopMember UncommonPosts: 210
    I just checked the prices they got in their shop ... please be mature and do drugs responsibly!
  • cheyanecheyane EarthMember EpicPosts: 4,789
    Kyleran said:
    cheyane said:
    Instead of rushing here like 'chicken little' to start a topic you could have done a few searches and found the answer easily.
    WTF post of the day.

    Discussion forum, nuff said.
    There is a reason for why I posted what I did. If it was an innocent question it should not have made comparisons to SotA

    See here in the second line

    "The most expensive one is an Imperial Castle for $7,000.  That's some SotA-level shit.  And if I'm not mistaken, it's not just cosmetic."

    Why pose a question this way essentially just damning Crowfall and comparing it to the greed level of SotA? I believe this was an attempt to start a P2W discussion while he was not in full possession of the facts to stir people up in a frenzy which it often does on this forum when these types of cash shop sales are highlighted.

    Even after it was pointed out to be cosmetic the discussion just ignored it. 
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus LondonMember RarePosts: 1,117
    Kyleran said:
    cheyane said:
    Instead of rushing here like 'chicken little' to start a topic you could have done a few searches and found the answer easily.
    WTF post of the day.

    Discussion forum, nuff said.
    This is kinda the same attitude when you ask a question in-game and someone answers you "Google it". 

    - Type in username password
    - Avoid human contact
    - Use every opportunity to feel better about your day job
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  • CopperfieldCopperfield RotterdamMember UncommonPosts: 555
    haha

    their cashshop is out of control LOL

    What an idiots

    I give this game 2 months till its dead..

    mark my post.. i will be right


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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko JohannesburgMember EpicPosts: 6,542
    "Join my guild ! I have cookies !"

    Cookies being the fanciest player city in the game...

    Nah, the Imperial Palace is purely cosmetic, it will have no influence on game play whatsoever ! :wink:
  • MrTugglesMrTuggles bolivar, OHMember UncommonPosts: 134
    genaknosc said:
    Why is there even a whole page of people discussing P2W here when nobody involved in the debate even knows anything about Crowfall EK's. lol, people complaining about shit they don't even understand
    Same thing is happening on the CoE forums here. Seems there is a witch hunt by the video game welfare rats to call everything p2w :-)
    Eldurian
  • NildenNilden Canada, NBMember RarePosts: 2,163
    MrTuggles said:
    genaknosc said:
    Why is there even a whole page of people discussing P2W here when nobody involved in the debate even knows anything about Crowfall EK's. lol, people complaining about shit they don't even understand
    Same thing is happening on the CoE forums here. Seems there is a witch hunt by the video game welfare rats to call everything p2w :-)
    Right because there is no way at all paying ten grand to be king or seven grand for a castle is pay 2 win. How silly.

    Maybe just maybe the pricing is a little out of hand...

    http://massivelyop.com/2017/06/08/massively-overthinking-mmo-monetization-run-amok/

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  • coretex666coretex666 PragueMember RarePosts: 3,209
    MrTuggles said:
    genaknosc said:
    Why is there even a whole page of people discussing P2W here when nobody involved in the debate even knows anything about Crowfall EK's. lol, people complaining about shit they don't even understand
    Same thing is happening on the CoE forums here. Seems there is a witch hunt by the video game welfare rats to call everything p2w :-)
    If that post about doing research instead of making threads was "WTF post of the day", then what is this post above....a WTF post of the year? 

    It demonstrates a complete inability of the poster to entertain the idea that for some players, the issue with ingame assets sold for real money is related to principles rather than their own ability to spend money on a PC game.

  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDMember EpicPosts: 21,106
    "Join my guild ! I have cookies !"

    Cookies being the fanciest player city in the game...

    Nah, the Imperial Palace is purely cosmetic, it will have no influence on game play whatsoever ! :wink:
    It will have an impact on those who give a crap about what others have. I couldn't really care less about such things, it's how fun the game is that matters. 

    That said is this a funding endeavor or an actual cash-shop?

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  • jitter77jitter77 Greensburg, PAMember UncommonPosts: 190
    Well if it is a guild thing and you have 100 people in your guild that is only $70 a piece...
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  • TillerTiller Member RarePosts: 6,155
    jitter77 said:
    Well if it is a guild thing and you have 100 people in your guild that is only $70 a piece...
    "Hey I'm just gonna hand over some money to some random internet nerd for their virtual property." Yeah I see that going over well. xD





  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,288
    Tiller said:
    jitter77 said:
    Well if it is a guild thing and you have 100 people in your guild that is only $70 a piece...
    "Hey I'm just gonna hand over some money to some random internet nerd for their virtual property." Yeah I see that going over well. xD
    I dunno, I've given money to guilds for voice servers, why not for an in game asset?

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  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,288
    cheyane said:
    Kyleran said:
    cheyane said:
    Instead of rushing here like 'chicken little' to start a topic you could have done a few searches and found the answer easily.
    WTF post of the day.

    Discussion forum, nuff said.
    There is a reason for why I posted what I did. If it was an innocent question it should not have made comparisons to SotA

    See here in the second line

    "The most expensive one is an Imperial Castle for $7,000.  That's some SotA-level shit.  And if I'm not mistaken, it's not just cosmetic."

    Why pose a question this way essentially just damning Crowfall and comparing it to the greed level of SotA? I believe this was an attempt to start a P2W discussion while he was not in full possession of the facts to stir people up in a frenzy which it often does on this forum when these types of cash shop sales are highlighted.

    Even after it was pointed out to be cosmetic the discussion just ignored it. 
    While the discussion cleared up the P2W confusion I'd have to say a $7K castle for sale cosmetic or not keeps Crowfall very much on par with SotA or COE in terms of greed level

    If I was going to spend that much money it sure as hell better give me some advantage

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  • TillerTiller Member RarePosts: 6,155
    Kyleran said:
    Tiller said:
    jitter77 said:
    Well if it is a guild thing and you have 100 people in your guild that is only $70 a piece...
    "Hey I'm just gonna hand over some money to some random internet nerd for their virtual property." Yeah I see that going over well. xD
    I dunno, I've given money to guilds for voice servers, why not for an in game asset?
    Well I imagine because there are too many scammers. It would definitely be something I would avoid, unless your guild was 300+ members who all contributed a few bucks and they have a way to police it with a TOS or a mechanic that allows partial ownership rights and a way to deposit funds directly to the game. Not to some random guy who may or may not take that 7k and buy the building.






  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,288
    Kyleran said:
    cheyane said:
    Instead of rushing here like 'chicken little' to start a topic you could have done a few searches and found the answer easily.
    WTF post of the day.

    Discussion forum, nuff said.
    This is kinda the same attitude when you ask a question in-game and someone answers you "Google it". 

    - Type in username password
    - Avoid human contact
    - Use every opportunity to feel better about your day job
    Or the classic response on some forums to a new post to "use the search" instead of starting a new thread.

    I usually end up permabanned on those sites after I tell the responder to go F... themselves.

    B)
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Panama City, FLMember RarePosts: 1,433
    Oh look, another p2w post.....how original!
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember EpicPosts: 7,201
    Kyleran said:
    cheyane said:
    Kyleran said:
    cheyane said:
    Instead of rushing here like 'chicken little' to start a topic you could have done a few searches and found the answer easily.
    WTF post of the day.

    Discussion forum, nuff said.
    There is a reason for why I posted what I did. If it was an innocent question it should not have made comparisons to SotA

    See here in the second line

    "The most expensive one is an Imperial Castle for $7,000.  That's some SotA-level shit.  And if I'm not mistaken, it's not just cosmetic."

    Why pose a question this way essentially just damning Crowfall and comparing it to the greed level of SotA? I believe this was an attempt to start a P2W discussion while he was not in full possession of the facts to stir people up in a frenzy which it often does on this forum when these types of cash shop sales are highlighted.

    Even after it was pointed out to be cosmetic the discussion just ignored it. 
    While the discussion cleared up the P2W confusion I'd have to say a $7K castle for sale cosmetic or not keeps Crowfall very much on par with SotA or COE in terms of greed level

    If I was going to spend that much money it sure as hell better give me some advantage

    It's all illusion.  I doubt anyone actually paid $7,000 for the castle.  They want to suck you in on the "deals".   I did the Kickstarter with some of the money I received after selling my Pathfinder Online accounts.  I think it was $240 or so for the Amber package.  (Keep in mind if this were not magical money from pathfinder I wouldn't even have consider that).  The package came with a boatload of crap including an extra copy of the Collectors Edition of the game, 5 years sub (plus a bunch more I think as kickstarter bonuses), guild naming rights, special crest colors etc... and all these pixel land parcels plus like a fort or something.  

    They have "sales" where you can actually sell the stuff back to them.  You could also convert 12 months of VIP to a 1 year block.. at a savings.   So I think I sold back some useless items and a bunch of VIP time (I still have over 3 years.. and thats probably 2.5 years too many) for store credit.  I then used that credit to buy pixel castles.

    I think my end result was 2 small castles, 1 large keep and 3 forts of various sizes, a few cottages plus lots of land parcels.  If I add up the "value" of those castles, keep and forts It's about $5,000

    Keep in mind that I still have about $600 in VIP subs... plus a boxed collectors edition which they are trying to sell for $180 now... plus more pixel crap than I can keep track of... 

    I haven't spent any more than by initial KS package (I think it was $240).

    Al those values listed are fake IMHO... just to make people think they got some great deals.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDMember EpicPosts: 21,106
    Kyleran said:

    If I was going to spend that much money it sure as hell better give me some advantage

    If I was going to pay that much for an entertainment item, it would say one thing on it. Gibson (Circa 1960s). 
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  • HellidolHellidol TACOMA, WAMember UncommonPosts: 464
    Tiller said:
    OhhPaigey said:
    I hate to be that person, but anybody who buys that junk is off their rocker.

    I don't care how many 0's are in your bank account.
    Well, for some that's a night out in Vegas and drinks with friends, so I guess if they get a digitally tangible item then so be it. Not where I would put my money, but to each his own I guess.

    If it were purely cosmetic, I'd agree.  However, this appears to give players the ability to buy an instant, significant PvP advantage over other players who can't afford it.  Without getting into a huge debate about the spirit of fair competition, this appears to be markedly pay to win.  Again, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so, after reading the item description.
    I would say your a little off with that. From what I understand you can build this stuff but i could be wrong. Also how does this give an advantage when its a building that can be destroyed like any other? I think this more so for space to run your kingdom and to have a cool place to hang out duno i could be wrong. 

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