Introducing Microsoft Surface Laptop

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 16,098










    Well that, and the mismanagement of my note 7.  Their hardware is usually strong. Their practices as of late I disagree with.  8 years ago I was impressed by them, but now I'm looking to other companies. Many use samsung parts, but they support their devices and care for their customers more.


    maybe Apple?

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • ThupliThupli Member UncommonPosts: 983

    SEANMCAD said:



    Thupli said:





    SEANMCAD said:



    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to






    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  




    but here is the thing about that. How many home users are using their PC for video games or photoshop? not nearlly as many you think.

    My mother for example ONLY uses a chromebook and it comes 100% of what she needs to do with it and some she doesnt even take advantage of.


    I dont think we know numbers of people that have chromebooks exclusively vs chromebooks and a PC/Windows.

    Even looking at your own comments, your mom uses a chromebook exclusively, but you use both.  That is 50/50 there, and my guess was you helped guide her to get by with just a chromebook.

    My guess is that most people buying Chromebooks are tech lovers and are simply adding it to their quiver of computing devices.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 16,098

    Thupli said:



    SEANMCAD said:





    Thupli said:







    SEANMCAD said:




    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to








    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  






    but here is the thing about that. How many home users are using their PC for video games or photoshop? not nearlly as many you think.

    My mother for example ONLY uses a chromebook and it comes 100% of what she needs to do with it and some she doesnt even take advantage of.




    I dont think we know numbers of people that have chromebooks exclusively vs chromebooks and a PC/Windows.

    Even looking at your own comments, your mom uses a chromebook exclusively, but you use both.  That is 50/50 there, and my guess was you helped guide her to get by with just a chromebook.

    My guess is that most people buying Chromebooks are tech lovers and are simply adding it to their quiver of computing devices.


    I have no doubt that there are plenty of people who need a full blown desktop/laptop and I am one of those people. No doubt at all, but I think its idiotic frankly to think the majority of home users need those items that only a traditional PC can do which is very literally not much more than 1. Run Steam and other games 2. Run Photoshop.


    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Chicago, ILMember EpicPosts: 5,996
    The reviews I've read have been mixed.  Some people like them and some don't.  If you like it good for you.  People I know who aren't into computers use them just for basic stuff, email, FB, storing photos, and playing a few desktop games.  If they have kids they get a lot more use.

    "Change is the only constant."

  • VrikaVrika FinlandMember RarePosts: 4,202

    Nanfoodle said:








    SEANMCAD said:
















    Nanfoodle said:





    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?















    No they won't force you to go to 10S. More than likely they'll allow 10S users to upgrade in some fashion.














    Torval said:











    Thupli said:













    SEANMCAD said:







    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to














    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  












    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/

















    I just can't stand behind Samsung anymore. I used to have a tablet of theirs before.. they stopped supporting it after about 3 years. Then.. same thing happened with several of my other devices from them. They stop rolling out updates fairly quickly.. when they aren't exploding phones.








    Your saying that Samsung stopped supporting a device after 3 years of ownership?!!!!!!!!!!

    holy blaz how terrible is that, highly unusual I would supect....right?






    I think thats what they do to push you to upgrade your device.  Slow or stop updates altogether on devices after 3 years and I think they decided this based on their cell phone business.. it gives you 2 years for your  average cell contract and 1 more year of possible updates (I only received 1 update for my tablet that third year) before you are pushed to upgrade or you get left behind.  Pretty awful.  




    This is why I switched from Andriod devices like Samsung to Nexuis or Pixel devices. They support their products longer and the updates are faster. I didnt like the Pixel C so I switched my tablet to a windows device. Sick of buying a new tablet every 2-3 years. 


    The updates are faster, but sadly the support isn't longer. Google gives updates 2 years from devices release, and security updates additional 1 year from devices release, or at least 18 months after it's sold by Google.

    3 years and then getting people to buy a new device for more updates is their plan.

    I think it's sad especially for more expensive devices. Quickly averages to $20 a month if you want to have more expensive device that's still getting security updates.
     
  • VrikaVrika FinlandMember RarePosts: 4,202

    Thupli said:



    SEANMCAD said:





    Thupli said:







    SEANMCAD said:




    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to








    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  






    but here is the thing about that. How many home users are using their PC for video games or photoshop? not nearlly as many you think.

    My mother for example ONLY uses a chromebook and it comes 100% of what she needs to do with it and some she doesnt even take advantage of.




    I dont think we know numbers of people that have chromebooks exclusively vs chromebooks and a PC/Windows.

    Even looking at your own comments, your mom uses a chromebook exclusively, but you use both.  That is 50/50 there, and my guess was you helped guide her to get by with just a chromebook.

    My guess is that most people buying Chromebooks are tech lovers and are simply adding it to their quiver of computing devices.


    I think most people buying Chromebook are people who already have a Windows PC home, but want something mobile.

    That doesn't make those people tech lovers. Most of them are students or people who need something lightweight and with good battery life for their profession.
     
  • kitaradkitarad RomeMember EpicPosts: 3,695
    edited May 10
    I just found out you cannot even put Steam or GoG or Origin on this damn thing. How would you play any games? People who buy this will be so disappointed. stay away from this crap!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/03/windows-10-s-microsoft-faster-pc-comparison
    Scroll down and read about  playing games on the OS.

    • You will not be able install Valve’s Steam store, EA’s Origin, Blizzard’s Battlenet or any game distributed on disc or download from outside the Windows Store, however, which will severely limit the selection of games available for Windows 10 S.
    My android phone has so many features why would I need to get a portable thingy when the phone is good enough. This means you have to careful when you buy any new PC from now on that you do not take this stupid OS at all.

    People will jailbreak this soon enough.
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  • RidelynnRidelynn Fresno, CAMember EpicPosts: 6,046
    Yeah that's why Gabe Newell and Tim Sweeney are so against it.
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 9,242

    kitarad said:

    I just found out you cannot even put Steam or GoG or Origin on this damn thing. How would you play any games? People who buy this will be so disappointed. stay away from this crap!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/03/windows-10-s-microsoft-faster-pc-comparison
    Scroll down and read about  playing games on the OS.

    • You will not be able install Valve’s Steam store, EA’s Origin, Blizzard’s Battlenet or any game distributed on disc or download from outside the Windows Store, however, which will severely limit the selection of games available for Windows 10 S.
    My android phone has so many features why would I need to get a portable thingy when the phone is good enough. This means you have to careful when you buy any new PC from now on that you do not take this stupid OS at all.

    People will jailbreak this soon enough.


    LOL these aren't gaming PC's so why are you complaining? Why would you spend so much on a PC without a strong dedicated video card?  The surface brand was never made for gaming, even without the windows 10 S version.

    Also Windows 10S CAN be upgraded to windows 10 PRO..... which means you can install anything you want on it if you did... but why would you? There are hundreds of laptops better suited for gaming.

    Tim Sweeney is also.. an idiot.



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