Introducing Microsoft Surface Laptop

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 13,414

    SEANMCAD said:

    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to


    I would have bought my wife a Chromebook or a Galaxy Tab S3. It would fit her perfectly except for the Facebook and Pogo games which use Java and Flash. When it's all HTML 5 and Javascript I'll be free of that restriction.

    The other thing that never got me to make the leap to purchase is that a full blown Windows laptop isn't much more and then I'm not restricted to Google's Chrome app ecosystem.
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  • CleffyCleffy San Diego, CAMember RarePosts: 5,586
    edited May 5
    I have used Bing for years. I also just switched completely over to Microsoft Edge. It is at a point where I feel it can replace Opera. Ad-blocker stops the slow page loading on some sites. No longer have the scroll to top issue. And it always displayed pages better. Before I only used Edge to watch porn since I knew they were sending the data to the NSA.
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel houston, TXMember RarePosts: 9,065

    Asm0deus said:




    Recore said:







    SEANMCAD said:










    Recore said:














    Just as I thought. 















    you should not be posting OPs if you are not willing to explain yourself and want to take the attitude of 'well meaning of the words is all in the beholder' which of course simply a pile of horseshit. one might as well say 'becaue of elephants purple'

    BUT I will say your tactic does tend to motivate me to say more rather than motivate me to say less so you have that effect going for you










    I like the Surface and I think its another great product from Microsoft. 

    What I do not get is where does the hate come from? 

    What happened between you and Microsoft? If you are not ready to talk about it I understand.  =)








    That's where my "hate" is coming from though to be honest it's more disgust than hate in my part.

    He has some good videos and he actually worked for M$ so...





    I understand the "hate" for that but..  MS is desperately trying to bring everyone on to windows 10 so they can have a "single" OS on every device to aid in making money based on their app store, ads, etc.  "Single OS" as in windows 10 isn't really the "same" OS from one version to the next, but its still the same platform across XB, PCs and presumably the new Mobile OS.

    They needed to severely streamline their OS's because in truth it was horribly fragmented.  There are people out there still everything from XP to 8.1.   



  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Chicago, ILMember EpicPosts: 5,131
    Steve Gibson a computer security expert hates Win 10 with a passion.  He was in a podcast on Twit.tv that was very interesting.  Steve runs the GRC.com website.

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  • CleffyCleffy San Diego, CAMember RarePosts: 5,586
    Windows 10 S will probably be the safest version of Windows with the computer connected to the Internet. It's really difficult to install a virus when everything must be vetted by Microsoft first. I imagine with enough time getting viruses on this OS will be possible, but it really isn't as ideal a target as a standard copy of Windows is.
  • NorseGodNorseGod My Bunker, MTMember UncommonPosts: 1,116
    Windows 10 S. The S stands for spyware.

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  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKMember LegendaryPosts: 16,086

    NorseGod said:

    Windows 10 S. The S stands for spyware.



    More like Shit.

    Seriously being forced to only use Windows Store apps and not being able to use Chrome or Steam etc....  its the shitties version of windows yet.
  • NorseGodNorseGod My Bunker, MTMember UncommonPosts: 1,116

    DMKano said:



    NorseGod said:


    Windows 10 S. The S stands for spyware.





    More like Shit.

    Seriously being forced to only use Windows Store apps and not being able to use Chrome or Steam etc....  its the shitties version of windows yet.


    In the near future, we won't own our OS, it will be "Software as a Service". (think parking meter)

    I read somewhere in Europe, they (the gov) wants to charge you for each browser search.

    Auto manufactures are doing the same thing by putting a copyright on ALL parts and you will be forced to take your vehicle to the dealer for the simplest fix.

    People need to wake up fast.

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  • ThupliThupli Member UncommonPosts: 931

    SEANMCAD said:

    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to


    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  
  • PhryPhry OxfordshireMember EpicPosts: 8,705

    DMKano said:



    NorseGod said:


    Windows 10 S. The S stands for spyware.





    More like Shit.

    Seriously being forced to only use Windows Store apps and not being able to use Chrome or Steam etc....  its the shitties version of windows yet.


    Only being able to run software from the windows store is a huge limitation especially when you consider that the windows store apps are not guaranteed to be virus free, so good luck with that, as you can't even install a decent antivirus/firewall program without having to pay an extra $50 for the priviledge. O.o

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    Barnacules Nerdgasm's everything you need to know about Microsofts Windows 10 S. :o
  • CleffyCleffy San Diego, CAMember RarePosts: 5,586
    Windows Defender Anti-Virus is decent. When it was released it offered top rate protection. Not sure now as the protection level goes back and forth like any AV software. Still probably decent.
  • VrikaVrika FinlandMember RarePosts: 4,026

    Cleffy said:

    Windows Defender Anti-Virus is decent. When it was released it offered top rate protection. Not sure now as the protection level goes back and forth like any AV software. Still probably decent.


    Windows Defender got lowest ranking Protection score on av-test.org:
      https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-10/

    That doesn't mean it's bad. It's still good enough for most home users.
     
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 14,655
    edited May 5


    Cleffy said:


    I have used Bing for years. I also just switched completely over to Microsoft Edge. It is at a point where I feel it can replace Opera. Ad-blocker stops the slow page loading on some sites. No longer have the scroll to top issue. And it always displayed pages better. Before I only used Edge to watch porn since I knew they were sending the data to the NSA.




    I got to tell you, I have worked as a consultant for 3 companies (our clients) since google became 'a thing' and I interact with a great deal of office users, nobody in the office I know of over the course of those 3 companies will even come close to touching Bing. Pretty much everyone uses Google...hench the phrase
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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 14,655

    Thupli said:



    SEANMCAD said:


    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to




    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  


    but here is the thing about that. How many home users are using their PC for video games or photoshop? not nearlly as many you think.

    My mother for example ONLY uses a chromebook and it comes 100% of what she needs to do with it and some she doesnt even take advantage of.

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  • RidelynnRidelynn Fresno, CAMember EpicPosts: 5,899
    There was also a particular vulnerability where Windows Defender was the only AV product that provided protection. (I can't find the link, I apologize, it was a few weeks ago) And Google Chrome engineers say it's one of the better products in terms of resource usage. Is it the best? Probably not, but it's free, and it gets relevant and timely updates, and for people who aren't out on the dark web pushing warez, I think it's good enough for typical daily use.

    Ultimately, though, if you are depending on your AV product to provide total protection, you are doing something wrong. No AV software can protect against stupid. That doesn't mean that I recommend running around with no AV software at all, because we all do stupid things from time to time, but if your looking for a product that provides total protection, the only product that does that is unhooking your computer from the internet and never installing anything from any external device ever. 

    As far as Google v Bing - let's stop feeding the troll. It's a non-issue, as your free to use whichever, whenever, or even both at the same time if you want, without any other consequence. So why is it even being debated?

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 13,414

    Thupli said:



    SEANMCAD said:


    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to




    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  


    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/


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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,532
    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?



  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel houston, TXMember RarePosts: 9,065

    Nanfoodle said:

    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?



    No they won't force you to go to 10S. More than likely they'll allow 10S users to upgrade in some fashion.


    Torval said:



    Thupli said:





    SEANMCAD said:



    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to






    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  




    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/





    I just can't stand behind Samsung anymore. I used to have a tablet of theirs before.. they stopped supporting it after about 3 years. Then.. same thing happened with several of my other devices from them. They stop rolling out updates fairly quickly.. when they aren't exploding phones.



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 14,655




    Nanfoodle said:


    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?






    No they won't force you to go to 10S. More than likely they'll allow 10S users to upgrade in some fashion.





    Torval said:





    Thupli said:







    SEANMCAD said:




    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to








    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  






    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/








    I just can't stand behind Samsung anymore. I used to have a tablet of theirs before.. they stopped supporting it after about 3 years. Then.. same thing happened with several of my other devices from them. They stop rolling out updates fairly quickly.. when they aren't exploding phones.


    Your saying that Samsung stopped supporting a device after 3 years of ownership?!!!!!!!!!!

    holy blaz how terrible is that, highly unusual I would supect....right?

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel houston, TXMember RarePosts: 9,065

    SEANMCAD said:








    Nanfoodle said:



    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?









    No they won't force you to go to 10S. More than likely they'll allow 10S users to upgrade in some fashion.








    Torval said:







    Thupli said:









    SEANMCAD said:





    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to










    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  








    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/











    I just can't stand behind Samsung anymore. I used to have a tablet of theirs before.. they stopped supporting it after about 3 years. Then.. same thing happened with several of my other devices from them. They stop rolling out updates fairly quickly.. when they aren't exploding phones.




    Your saying that Samsung stopped supporting a device after 3 years of ownership?!!!!!!!!!!

    holy blaz how terrible is that, highly unusual I would supect....right?


    I think thats what they do to push you to upgrade your device.  Slow or stop updates altogether on devices after 3 years and I think they decided this based on their cell phone business.. it gives you 2 years for your  average cell contract and 1 more year of possible updates (I only received 1 update for my tablet that third year) before you are pushed to upgrade or you get left behind.  Pretty awful.  



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 14,655




    SEANMCAD said:












    Nanfoodle said:




    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?












    No they won't force you to go to 10S. More than likely they'll allow 10S users to upgrade in some fashion.











    Torval said:









    Thupli said:











    SEANMCAD said:






    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to












    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  










    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/














    I just can't stand behind Samsung anymore. I used to have a tablet of theirs before.. they stopped supporting it after about 3 years. Then.. same thing happened with several of my other devices from them. They stop rolling out updates fairly quickly.. when they aren't exploding phones.






    Your saying that Samsung stopped supporting a device after 3 years of ownership?!!!!!!!!!!

    holy blaz how terrible is that, highly unusual I would supect....right?




    I think thats what they do to push you to upgrade your device.  Slow or stop updates altogether on devices after 3 years and I think they decided this based on their cell phone business.. it gives you 2 years for your  average cell contract and 1 more year of possible updates (I only received 1 update for my tablet that third year) before you are pushed to upgrade or you get left behind.  Pretty awful.  


    but that is why you cant get behind Samsung  because that assertion requires a differentiating reason and of course all others in this industry carry support beyond 3 years...right?


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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel houston, TXMember RarePosts: 9,065

    SEANMCAD said:








    SEANMCAD said:
















    Nanfoodle said:





    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?















    No they won't force you to go to 10S. More than likely they'll allow 10S users to upgrade in some fashion.














    Torval said:











    Thupli said:













    SEANMCAD said:







    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to














    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  












    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/

















    I just can't stand behind Samsung anymore. I used to have a tablet of theirs before.. they stopped supporting it after about 3 years. Then.. same thing happened with several of my other devices from them. They stop rolling out updates fairly quickly.. when they aren't exploding phones.








    Your saying that Samsung stopped supporting a device after 3 years of ownership?!!!!!!!!!!

    holy blaz how terrible is that, highly unusual I would supect....right?






    I think thats what they do to push you to upgrade your device.  Slow or stop updates altogether on devices after 3 years and I think they decided this based on their cell phone business.. it gives you 2 years for your  average cell contract and 1 more year of possible updates (I only received 1 update for my tablet that third year) before you are pushed to upgrade or you get left behind.  Pretty awful.  




    but that is why you cant get behind Samsung  because that assertion requires a differentiating reason and of course all others in this industry carry support beyond 3 years...right?




    Well that, and the mismanagement of my note 7.  Their hardware is usually strong. Their practices as of late I disagree with.  8 years ago I was impressed by them, but now I'm looking to other companies. Many use samsung parts, but they support their devices and care for their customers more.



  • laseritlaserit Vancouver, BCMember EpicPosts: 4,701
    edited May 5







    SEANMCAD said:
















    Nanfoodle said:





    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?















    No they won't force you to go to 10S. More than likely they'll allow 10S users to upgrade in some fashion.














    Torval said:











    Thupli said:













    SEANMCAD said:







    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to














    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  












    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/

















    I just can't stand behind Samsung anymore. I used to have a tablet of theirs before.. they stopped supporting it after about 3 years. Then.. same thing happened with several of my other devices from them. They stop rolling out updates fairly quickly.. when they aren't exploding phones.








    Your saying that Samsung stopped supporting a device after 3 years of ownership?!!!!!!!!!!

    holy blaz how terrible is that, highly unusual I would supect....right?






    I think thats what they do to push you to upgrade your device.  Slow or stop updates altogether on devices after 3 years and I think they decided this based on their cell phone business.. it gives you 2 years for your  average cell contract and 1 more year of possible updates (I only received 1 update for my tablet that third year) before you are pushed to upgrade or you get left behind.  Pretty awful.  




    Lets not forget that these products aren't exactly cheap.

    This is certainly a big factor for me, when I make decision on a new device.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member EpicPosts: 7,532




    SEANMCAD said:












    Nanfoodle said:




    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?












    No they won't force you to go to 10S. More than likely they'll allow 10S users to upgrade in some fashion.











    Torval said:









    Thupli said:











    SEANMCAD said:






    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to












    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  










    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/














    I just can't stand behind Samsung anymore. I used to have a tablet of theirs before.. they stopped supporting it after about 3 years. Then.. same thing happened with several of my other devices from them. They stop rolling out updates fairly quickly.. when they aren't exploding phones.






    Your saying that Samsung stopped supporting a device after 3 years of ownership?!!!!!!!!!!

    holy blaz how terrible is that, highly unusual I would supect....right?




    I think thats what they do to push you to upgrade your device.  Slow or stop updates altogether on devices after 3 years and I think they decided this based on their cell phone business.. it gives you 2 years for your  average cell contract and 1 more year of possible updates (I only received 1 update for my tablet that third year) before you are pushed to upgrade or you get left behind.  Pretty awful.  


    This is why I switched from Andriod devices like Samsung to Nexuis or Pixel devices. They support their products longer and the updates are faster. I didnt like the Pixel C so I switched my tablet to a windows device. Sick of buying a new tablet every 2-3 years. 



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 14,655

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    Nanfoodle said:





    My current Surface Pro tablet is running Windows 10 but not Pro. There is not an update coming thats going to downgrade me to 10s is there? Or is this just for new devices?















    No they won't force you to go to 10S. More than likely they'll allow 10S users to upgrade in some fashion.














    Torval said:











    Thupli said:













    SEANMCAD said:







    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to














    I also use a chromebook, but I think this is a great cheap "laptop wannabe" with the MS label for people that only want web browsing.

    Let's not fool ourselves: I love my chromebook, but it cant run and never will run the types of programs that you need for it to be a true PC.  It's great for all of the stuff you mentioned: internet streaming and basic word processing and spreadsheets.  This will just give microsoft the ability to compete with these needs.

    The surface pro is really what I would like, but for now my chromebook is ok.

    The chromebook and this MS product will be a good secondary computer for internet and alternative to a tablet, but it doesnt replace a PC.  












    I've been looking at the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Book which is a Surface Pro competitor. The 12" model with a core i5, 8GB ram, and 256GB storage is $1330. It comes with an S-Pen, the keyboard cover, and a USB-C multi-adapter. That's pretty sweet. I'm glad to see major OEMs building these.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-book/galaxy-book-12--windows-2-in-1-pc--wi-fi---silver-sm-w720nzkaxar/

















    I just can't stand behind Samsung anymore. I used to have a tablet of theirs before.. they stopped supporting it after about 3 years. Then.. same thing happened with several of my other devices from them. They stop rolling out updates fairly quickly.. when they aren't exploding phones.








    Your saying that Samsung stopped supporting a device after 3 years of ownership?!!!!!!!!!!

    holy blaz how terrible is that, highly unusual I would supect....right?






    I think thats what they do to push you to upgrade your device.  Slow or stop updates altogether on devices after 3 years and I think they decided this based on their cell phone business.. it gives you 2 years for your  average cell contract and 1 more year of possible updates (I only received 1 update for my tablet that third year) before you are pushed to upgrade or you get left behind.  Pretty awful.  




    This is why I switched from Andriod devices like Samsung to Nexuis or Pixel devices. They support their products longer and the updates are faster. I didnt like the Pixel C so I switched my tablet to a windows device. Sick of buying a new tablet every 2-3 years. 


    and yeah those products are CRUSHING Apple....lol

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