Introducing Microsoft Surface Laptop

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966

    cheyane said:





    I read the 10S browser has Bing for search engine which can't be changed and no other browser can be set as default.




    Idiots!


    If I had to use Bing I would throw chairs into windows for sure.

    Anytime I find I am searching for something at work accidently using Bing I tend to throw stuff

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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,730


    I read the 10S browser has Bing for search engine which can't be changed and no other browser can be set as default.


    You can't install other browsers at this point, only Edge, because there aren't any other browsers on the Store. I'm not sure if this is a Microsoft restriction or lack of interest in interop with Mozilla. Google surely isn't going to offer a browser through the store as they keep gutting their existing Chrome browser functionality on Windows.

    Don't be fooled by having "browser" options on iOS either. They all use webkit and safari's engine and sandbox implementation. They're essentially UI skins on safari.

    Unless Microsoft has locked down Edge (and I haven't tested 10S so I don't know) it's easy to change your default search engine. Settings > Advanced > Search Engine (change) > select one from the list.
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  • VrikaVrika FinlandMember RarePosts: 4,193

    Torval said:





    I read the 10S browser has Bing for search engine which can't be changed and no other browser can be set as default.




    You can't install other browsers at this point, only Edge, because there aren't any other browsers on the Store. I'm not sure if this is a Microsoft restriction or lack of interest in interop with Mozilla. Google surely isn't going to offer a browser through the store as they keep gutting their existing Chrome browser functionality on Windows.

    Don't be fooled by having "browser" options on iOS either. They all use webkit and safari's engine and sandbox implementation. They're essentially UI skins on safari.

    Unless Microsoft has locked down Edge (and I haven't tested 10S so I don't know) it's easy to change your default search engine. Settings > Advanced > Search Engine (change) > select one from the list.


    There are no other browsers in Microsoft store, because like Apple Microsoft doesn't allow 3rd party engines.

    Afaik Microsoft has locked down default search engine on Windows S so that it can't be changed. Also Microsoft has locked down default browser on Windows S so that even if you could install another browser, you could never change it into default browser. That doesn't leave much room for the competitors.
     
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966

    Vrika said:



    Torval said:








    I read the 10S browser has Bing for search engine which can't be changed and no other browser can be set as default.






    You can't install other browsers at this point, only Edge, because there aren't any other browsers on the Store. I'm not sure if this is a Microsoft restriction or lack of interest in interop with Mozilla. Google surely isn't going to offer a browser through the store as they keep gutting their existing Chrome browser functionality on Windows.

    Don't be fooled by having "browser" options on iOS either. They all use webkit and safari's engine and sandbox implementation. They're essentially UI skins on safari.

    Unless Microsoft has locked down Edge (and I haven't tested 10S so I don't know) it's easy to change your default search engine. Settings > Advanced > Search Engine (change) > select one from the list.




    There are no other browsers in Microsoft store, because like Apple Microsoft doesn't allow 3rd party engines.

    Afaik Microsoft has locked down default search engine on Windows S so that it can't be changed. Also Microsoft has locked down default browser on Windows S so that even if you could install another browser, you could never change it into default browser. That doesn't leave much room for the competitors.


    I am a programmer by trade and the day I stopped using Bing was when I could not find answers to a .Net question (a microsoft technology) using Bing but I COULD find it using Google. yup, that was the last straw

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 7,819

    SEANMCAD said:



    Recore said:












    A competitor to Chromebooks, not a full fledged laptop.

    It does look pretty nice but i personally have no use for laptops running mobile apps only so i'll pass. Same reason i never got a chromebook.













    This is not the Chromebook competitor. That one is coming soon with the Windows Cloud OS.

    https://mspoweruser.com/windows-10-s-officially-announced/


    Surface will compete with Mac Book.






    and I would want to use Windows Cloud OS instead of my existing Google cloud ecosystem with my Chromebook why exactly?





    Why are you asking me about what you would use? 

    You really need to find something to do instead of trolling all post about Microsoft. 

    It is making you look really silly at this point. 



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966
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    Recore said:





    SEANMCAD said:







    Recore said:


















    A competitor to Chromebooks, not a full fledged laptop.

    It does look pretty nice but i personally have no use for laptops running mobile apps only so i'll pass. Same reason i never got a chromebook.

















    This is not the Chromebook competitor. That one is coming soon with the Windows Cloud OS.

    https://mspoweruser.com/windows-10-s-officially-announced/


    Surface will compete with Mac Book.










    and I would want to use Windows Cloud OS instead of my existing Google cloud ecosystem with my Chromebook why exactly?









    Why are you asking me about what you would use? 

    You really need to find something to do instead of trolling all post about Microsoft. 

    It is making you look really silly at this point. 






    that is the most evasive answer I have read today I think, a real strong sell on the Windows ecosystem there, confrontation really sells well.
    and believe me the Microsoft ecosystem compared to google is going to need something to pull people in. I am not the only guy with special snowflakes and all who is tied into the google ecosystem. just sayin

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 7,819
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    SEANMCAD said:








    Recore said:











    SEANMCAD said:













    Recore said:



























    A competitor to Chromebooks, not a full fledged laptop.

    It does look pretty nice but i personally have no use for laptops running mobile apps only so i'll pass. Same reason i never got a chromebook.























    This is not the Chromebook competitor. That one is coming soon with the Windows Cloud OS.

    https://mspoweruser.com/windows-10-s-officially-announced/


    Surface will compete with Mac Book.
















    and I would want to use Windows Cloud OS instead of my existing Google cloud ecosystem with my Chromebook why exactly?















    Why are you asking me about what you would use? 

    You really need to find something to do instead of trolling all post about Microsoft. 

    It is making you look really silly at this point. 












    that is the most evasive answer I have read today I think, a real strong sell on the Windows ecosystem there, confrontation really sells well.
    and believe me the Microsoft ecosystem compared to google is going to need something to pull people in. I am not the only guy with special snowflakes and all who is tied into the google ecosystem. just sayin








    A strong sell?   Were you in special ed or something?

    Do I look like a Microsoft Rep? 

    Where am I trying to sell anything?


    LMAO, dude you have issues.

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  • RusqueRusque Las Vegas, NVMember RarePosts: 2,751
    I'm not gonna get a Surface Laptop, I have a Surface Book already - Blueflap is in the windows store and is a pretty sweet browser.

    Also, Edge is a pretty nice browser and you can change it to search via your search engine of choice, don't have to use Bing. But I will admit, I just use Edge for casual browsing (like mmorpg.com), and use Chrome for all work related internet needs.

  • AlverantAlverant Wheaton, ILMember RarePosts: 913
    Will this version of Win10 log keystrokes and treat you like a source of ad revenue instead of a customer?
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966

    Alverant said:

    Will this version of Win10 log keystrokes and treat you like a source of ad revenue instead of a customer?


    to be fair everyone is doing that. not exactly a reason to use one over the other anymore

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966

    Recore said:








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    Do I look like a Microsoft Rep? 
    ....



    yes ABSOLUTELY but that is aside from the point.

    usually when someone makes an OP and says something like 'they did it again' its kinda good to explain what exactly because i dont see the advantage like...at all

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 7,819

    SEANMCAD said:



    Recore said:











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    Do I look like a Microsoft Rep? 
    ....





    yes ABSOLUTELY but that is aside from the point.

    usually when someone makes an OP and says something like 'they did it again' its kinda good to explain what exactly because i dont see the advantage like...at all




    So now I need to explain my self to you?

    You really are special.  :(



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966

    Recore said:



    SEANMCAD said:





    Recore said:














    ...

    Do I look like a Microsoft Rep? 
    ....







    yes ABSOLUTELY but that is aside from the point.

    usually when someone makes an OP and says something like 'they did it again' its kinda good to explain what exactly because i dont see the advantage like...at all






    So now I need to explain my self to you?

    You really are special.  :(




    of course you do!

    what is the point of making an OP if you dont have to explain it, 'they did it again' ok I will take that at face value and say yeah they did it again, they created a laptop.

    what does that even fucking mean?

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  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIMember RarePosts: 2,902

    Alverant said:

    Will this version of Win10 log keystrokes and treat you like a source of ad revenue instead of a customer?



    Do you have a cell phone? You are already treated like revenue. The win 10 logging can be turned off, so it is not a big deal. They collected all that information before but NOW they actually told you what they were collecting.

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 7,819

    SEANMCAD said:



    Recore said:





    SEANMCAD said:







    Recore said:

















    ...

    Do I look like a Microsoft Rep? 
    ....









    yes ABSOLUTELY but that is aside from the point.

    usually when someone makes an OP and says something like 'they did it again' its kinda good to explain what exactly because i dont see the advantage like...at all








    So now I need to explain my self to you?

    You really are special.  :(






    of course you do!

    what is the point of making an OP if you dont have to explain it, 'they did it again' ok I will take that at face value and say yeah they did it again, they created a laptop.

    what does that even fucking mean?






    What do you think it means? 



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966

    Recore said:







    What do you think it means? 




    I think it really means 'yeah they did it again another lame product'

    but that is not the point, when you make an OP your job isnt to be as passive aggressive as humanly possible your job is to add insight 

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 7,819

    SEANMCAD said:



    Recore said:










    What do you think it means? 






    I think it really means 'yeah they did it again another lame product'







    Just as I thought. 




  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 9,236

    Nyctelios said:

    Wow music and no specs! This sure is proof of quality! Awesome video! Done it again!


    They have several different specs in i5 and i7 models. SSDs in all of them obviously, HD or Intel Iris graphics cards,  generally good if your focus is drawing in mac users. It looks great, lots of wonderful business applications in many industries and many school type functions.   

    I do like surface models for their ease of use, but, I'll probably pass on this model. 



  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966
    edited May 4


    Recore said:






    Just as I thought. 







    you should not be posting OPs if you are not willing to explain yourself and want to take the attitude of 'well meaning of the words is all in the beholder' which of course simply a pile of horseshit. one might as well say 'becaue of elephants purple'

    BUT I will say your tactic does tend to motivate me to say more rather than motivate me to say less so you have that effect going for you
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 7,819

    SEANMCAD said:




    Recore said:








    Just as I thought. 









    you should not be posting OPs if you are not willing to explain yourself and want to take the attitude of 'well meaning of the words is all in the beholder' which of course simply a pile of horseshit. one might as well say 'becaue of elephants purple'

    BUT I will say your tactic does tend to motivate me to say more rather than motivate me to say less so you have that effect going for you




    I like the Surface and I think its another great product from Microsoft. 

    What I do not get is where does the hate come from? 

    What happened between you and Microsoft? If you are not ready to talk about it I understand.  =)


  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966
    edited May 4



    Recore said:


    I like the Surface and I think its another great product from Microsoft. 

    What I do not get is where does the hate come from? 

    What happened between you and Microsoft? If you are not ready to talk about it I understand.  =)






    yes I can help with that

    1. By trade I am a programmer, one day at work I had a specific question related to .Net (which is a Microsoft Technology) I found myself searching on Bing, I wasnt really paying attention at the time at which search engine I was using but never the less I looked and looked and could not find a link that helped me. Then I tried google, it ended up being the first link. Bing could not find answers to a product that is owned by the same company as Bing! (understand by the way I use Microsoft Technology at work DAILY.....Net, SQL Server, ASP.Net and sometimes SharePoint.

    2. Xbox reveal was all about fucking sports.

    the rest is not really anger bias but rather just plain old boring facts like .....Zune
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  • MargraveMargrave Member UncommonPosts: 940
    This is just their Chromebook Pixel.

    Google was smart enough to stop making Pixel as it didn't sell well.

    Once again, MS is just late to the market. So sad.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966

    Margrave said:

    This is just their Chromebook Pixel.

    Google was smart enough to stop making Pixel as it didn't sell well.

    Once again, MS is just late to the market. So sad.


    yeah and they are in a position much like the phones where they will never be able to get ground. Once people are locked into a service that is working for them they are not going to switch for the same thing and the switch is what MS needs in order for the services to be attractive in the first place.

    Bill Gates knew this, they lost their way over time.

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Houston, TXMember EpicPosts: 15,966
    also.. I have been using Chromebook as my second computer for about 3 years now and its fantastic. I use it to watch youtube, watch movies, its used a LOT in my home. For my mother her Chromebook is her only computer and it does everything she needs it to

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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus BaatorMember RarePosts: 2,031
    edited May 4


    Recore said:





    SEANMCAD said:








    Recore said:












    Just as I thought. 













    you should not be posting OPs if you are not willing to explain yourself and want to take the attitude of 'well meaning of the words is all in the beholder' which of course simply a pile of horseshit. one might as well say 'becaue of elephants purple'

    BUT I will say your tactic does tend to motivate me to say more rather than motivate me to say less so you have that effect going for you








    I like the Surface and I think its another great product from Microsoft. 

    What I do not get is where does the hate come from? 

    What happened between you and Microsoft? If you are not ready to talk about it I understand.  =)






    That's where my "hate" is coming from though to be honest it's more disgust than hate in my part.

    He has some good videos and he actually worked for M$ so...



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