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GladDogGladDog Pottstown, PAMember RarePosts: 836
...It would be hard to beat this one.  Have no idea how long this will be on sale, but all it needs is a modern video card to be a true beast.  And, the one that it comes with isn't so bad...  I bought one and am planning on putting my XFX 8GB RX-480 in it.  It should be a very, very solid gaming desktop for several years.


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  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 14,112
    You might want to consider replacing the power supply. I think the 480/8 wants a 500W or better PSU. This model has a 400W PSU in it. It's not a huge extra expense but might be a pain to fit in the case or if there are proprietary connectors.
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson USAMember EpicPosts: 2,140
    That's a pretty good price for what you're getting.  I hope you get many years of fun from it.  It should be good to go for a while.  I would take Torval's advice though.  
  • epoqepoq Richmond, VAMember UncommonPosts: 359
    FWIW, if i was going to buy this at the price it is, I would just take it AS IS and then dump the entire system when looking to make your next upgrade.  It won't be worth upgrading the internals of a Lenovo to accomodate new processors, or PSUs, if the PSU can't handle whatever the next gen video card is (which is the only upgrade I would consider down the road) -- just replace the entire thing.  That's the beauty in buying a cheap pre-built.  I personally drop about 3 grand on my PC's every 3 years or so because I want the BoTB at the time, but to each their own.  This is by no means a bad system for playing relevant content at 1080p on high graphics.
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Somewhere in TimeMember EpicPosts: 2,410
    Make sure you can upgrade the power supply first. I've read a few comments about that lenovo model where people said it uses a proprietary PSU connector and upgrading it was a problem.
  • GladDogGladDog Pottstown, PAMember RarePosts: 836
    I have a 750W Antec Gold with this computer's name on it!


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  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Austin, TXMember EpicPosts: 1,973
    REFURBISHED!  GET THE HOLY WATER GILES!

  • ForgrimmForgrimm Somewhere in TimeMember EpicPosts: 2,410
    GladDog said:
    I have a 750W Antec Gold with this computer's name on it!
    It may not work with this pc though. Check the specs first.
  • GladDogGladDog Pottstown, PAMember RarePosts: 836
    I've always got a plan.  I'll get a new motherboard and move it to my existing case if need be.  Even at that the money works out in my favor, although doing that WILL cut the favor a lot.


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  • VrikaVrika FinlandMember RarePosts: 4,096
    That computer would be good for someone who doesn't play games.

    For a gamer, the video card is shit and you can't upgrade it without also changing PSU. Even assuming you can upgrade those without trouble, it's not so good deal any more after that.
     
  • OzmodanOzmodan Hilliard, OHMember RarePosts: 8,637
    Vrika said:
    That computer would be good for someone who doesn't play games.

    For a gamer, the video card is shit and you can't upgrade it without also changing PSU. Even assuming you can upgrade those without trouble, it's not so good deal any more after that.
    Oh come on, there is nothing wrong with the video card.  You elitists crack me up.  I have  960 in my other computer and it plays all the games fine, maybe not on ultra settings, but unless you have to play at 4k, it works fine at 1080p.
  • SedrynTyrosSedrynTyros USMember EpicPosts: 1,755
    edited April 2
    Torval said:
    You might want to consider replacing the power supply. I think the 480/8 wants a 500W or better PSU. This model has a 400W PSU in it. It's not a huge extra expense but might be a pain to fit in the case or if there are proprietary connectors.
    The PSU is one of the most important components in a desktop PC and I've noticed it's the first place a lot of the mainstream computer manufacturers cut corners.  The average person doesn't know their future video card upgrades depend on their PSU and so, unfortunately, it's an often overlooked spec.
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  • GladDogGladDog Pottstown, PAMember RarePosts: 836
    edited April 2
    I have 3 PSUs in the house that can handle my 8gb RX-480 video card.  Yes, I am that much of a geek.  If none of them will work in the system, I'll buy a motherboard and put the components in my current case using my vid.  This computer sells for $1129 off of the Lenovo site.  Yeah, it is overpriced at $1129, but even with realistic pricing, I can drop a hundred on a motherboard and still be ahead.
    Post edited by GladDog on


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  • ScarranScarran GlasgowMember UncommonPosts: 35
    edited April 2
    This desktop does come with its own Lenovo proprietary 10-pin ATX connector so if you want to upgrade the PSU on it you can get this adapter here to get around that issue: https://www.moddiy.com/products/IBM-Lenovo-PSU-Main-Power-24%252dPin-to-10%252dPin-Adapter-Cable-(30cm).html

    That should make it alot easier upgrading the PSU inside the thing as you will be SOL without the adapter.


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  • ianicusianicus Calgary, ABMember UncommonPosts: 608
    Vrika said:
    That computer would be good for someone who doesn't play games.

    For a gamer, the video card is shit and you can't upgrade it without also changing PSU. Even assuming you can upgrade those without trouble, it's not so good deal any more after that.
    LOL the 960 is fine for maaaaaany games right now. I love people that dont know what they are talking about.
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  • GladDogGladDog Pottstown, PAMember RarePosts: 836
    Scarran said:
    This desktop does come with its own Lenovo proprietary 10-pin ATX connector so if you want to upgrade the PSU on it you can get this adapter here to get around that issue: https://www.moddiy.com/products/IBM-Lenovo-PSU-Main-Power-24%252dPin-to-10%252dPin-Adapter-Cable-(30cm).html

    That should make it alot easier upgrading the PSU inside the thing as you will be SOL without the adapter.


    Thanks for the link, I will take a look at the setup when I get it, to see whether it needs the 10 or 14 pin adapter.  This will be a much cleaner and easier fix.  And cheaper than buying a motherboard.


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  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaMember EpicPosts: 12,817
    Yeah price seems good but i am guessing usa dollars?That would be more like 1000+ CDN.

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  • VrikaVrika FinlandMember RarePosts: 4,096
    Ozmodan said:
    Vrika said:
    That computer would be good for someone who doesn't play games.

    For a gamer, the video card is shit and you can't upgrade it without also changing PSU. Even assuming you can upgrade those without trouble, it's not so good deal any more after that.
    Oh come on, there is nothing wrong with the video card.  You elitists crack me up.  I have  960 in my other computer and it plays all the games fine, maybe not on ultra settings, but unless you have to play at 4k, it works fine at 1080p.
    GTX 960 still runs nearly every game and it's a good enough graphic card.

    But I wouldn't want to buy your used computer at $700 dollars even if it were refurbished by Newegg. For gaming, at that price, I think there are better options available.
     
  • GladDogGladDog Pottstown, PAMember RarePosts: 836
    Vrika said:
    Ozmodan said:
    Vrika said:
    That computer would be good for someone who doesn't play games.

    For a gamer, the video card is shit and you can't upgrade it without also changing PSU. Even assuming you can upgrade those without trouble, it's not so good deal any more after that.
    Oh come on, there is nothing wrong with the video card.  You elitists crack me up.  I have  960 in my other computer and it plays all the games fine, maybe not on ultra settings, but unless you have to play at 4k, it works fine at 1080p.
    GTX 960 still runs nearly every game and it's a good enough graphic card.

    But I wouldn't want to buy your used computer at $700 dollars even if it were refurbished by Newegg. For gaming, at that price, I think there are better options available.
    I'm going to buy a $15 cable so I can put my 750W Antec gamer gold PSU in, and put in my RX-480 video card.  My 512GB SSD is going to replace the 256GB one it comes with, and the 256GB is going into my current computer; if my wife wants to play Ship of Heroes that machine should work well.  The only game she ever played was City of Heroes.  I am going to add a 120mm fan at the front of the case, and replace the 120mm fan at the back with a better one.  The 2GB GTX960 is going into my current computer, a Sandy Bridge 15-3470 with 16GB ram that will become my wife's computer.  I also have a 620W Antec gamer gold PSU to put in that one.  My 500W Thermaltake PSU will go in the machine the 620W is coming out of; the computer hooked to my living room TV with the BluRay drive that I use for netflix (E8400 4GB ram, 256GB SSD + 500GB HDD + GTS250 512mb card), Star Trek Online and EQ2.

    Because of my backstock of parts and multiple desktops, I'm going to get a lot of win out of this machine.

    The thing that scares me the most about buying this is that this will be the first computer I did not build for myself since 1993.


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  • VrikaVrika FinlandMember RarePosts: 4,096
    GladDog said:
    Because of my backstock of parts and multiple desktops, I'm going to get a lot of win out of this machine.
    If you've already got that many parts and can also find use for the GTX 960 you take out, then I think it's really good purchase.
     
  • GladDogGladDog Pottstown, PAMember RarePosts: 836
    edited April 5
    So I got the computer, and a few surprises.

    1 - It is using a standard wide Micro ATX motherboard layout.  It would fit in any micro tower.
    2 - The power supply is using a standard layout, and would fit in any PC compatible case.  Why they chose to use a proprietary power connection is beyond me.
    3 - The tower would work with any normal setup, and has space for 3 hard drives.
    4 - It has 4 PCI-e Slots.  One is a PCI-e 3.0
    5 - Wifi!  So I can put it wherever I want.

    So now, I am deciding, Will I buy the $15 power connector to get it working with a real video card, or a $100 MicroATX Z170 motherboard? If I buy the board, eventually the old setup will get an i5 2 core or 4 core and a video card that does not have a power plug (RX-460 or a GTX1050).

    ***ADDED AS AN EDIT***

    I bought the cable, and I will buy the motherboard, cheap CPU and a case in the future.  I have enough HDDs and other parts to go around for another build!
    Post edited by GladDog on


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  • GladDogGladDog Pottstown, PAMember RarePosts: 836
    I got the power connector and made with the jinkies.  This motherboard, an Intel C232 that can take either an LGA 1151 Xeon, or an i7 Ivy Bridge, or a Kaby Lake, has ports on it to power SATA drives.  Yes, this system used motherboard power to power 3 SATA drives. bleh.  Well, it's in good shape now.  Since I am only going to run one RX-480 in it for now, I put in my Antec ECO GAMER 620W PSU.  It has an 8 pin and a 6 pin connector for video cards,  and the 8 pin is powering the 480.  I put in my 512GB SSD and kept the 1TB HDD in there.  And the drives are being run by the PSU just fine.

    So this is a;
    i7-6700
    32GB DDR4-2133 memory
    1 BD drive (BluRay + DVDRW)
    1 512GB SSD
    1 1TB HDD
    XFX RX-480 video card with 8GB
    Win 10 Pro
    ANTEC ECO 620W Gamer PSU

    My 'old' system, which will be hooked to my TV downstairs (this one will eventually get a BIG BOY motherboard and come back upstairs to the game room);
    i5-3470
    16GB DDR3-1600 memory
    1 BD Drive + 1 DVD drive
    1 256GB SSD
    1 640GB HDD
    Reference GTX960 vid with 2GB
    Win10 Home
    ANTEC GAMER GOLD 750W PSU

    So yeah, I am happy...




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  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Valve Corporation Member LegendaryPosts: 9,758
    Grats my friend!

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  • GladDogGladDog Pottstown, PAMember RarePosts: 836
    Grats my friend!
    Imma ready for some Bless!


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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Austin, TXMember RarePosts: 2,052
    Just too late for me.  Oh well, better luck next deal....

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