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Is this MMO going to have a fully open world?
tixylix
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I mean in the style of wow,eq swg or vanguard when they first launched. I don't want loading screens and small maps like swtor or eq2 etc..
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Not a huge fan of zones, but as long as they are large enough and open enough I am ok with it.
I also hate when zones bottleneck you into the next one, like Aion. Had to follow the path to zone etc.
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EQ2 did something similar at launch and it was horrible.
There are many benefits to having large immersive zones and being able to control the performance and detail in them more closely is one large benefit. Our loading screens are relatively quick and will have lore friendly images and text and by doing it this way we can avoid using instancing as much as possible, leaving huge open world dungeons and caves to be explored by anyone on the server.
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If you want to see an example on how Zones should not be made, play SotA.
The zones are also massive, so players will zone less often. They've said most zones will be bigger than even places like West Karana in EQ.
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Loading screens are fine as long as the zones feel huge and the loading break comes at a natural time. Just in the middle of a forest or town does not work.
Also, it helps if you can see whats in the other zone, like mountains and such from bordering zones. You don't miss huge natural features like mt Kilimanjaro even from far away.
Of course do we all prefer no loading screens to loading screen but if we can't get it for technical reasons we can at least get good zones with loading screens instead of annoying ones. With VRs budget I can certainly see why they made this decision, while many crowdfunded games have less cash money is still tight and should be focused on actual gameplay, not on eye candy.
As for dungeons, if they're handled like original wow where they take up real world space and you have to travel to them, great. What I hate is when you're warped to a location that doesn't exist in the world. Original wow had like the dead mines where it had an entrance and exit in different places and you could see the dungeon from other zones, it took up space and felt real despite it being instanced.
what I hate is world design like swtor or eq2 or any modern sudo-mmo where they're just hub games.
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That's called emergent game-play, something I miss in current MMOs.
These are all things we have considered and there are many ways to stop that happening to named mobs/raid targets/important npcs etc. and we may implement something for certain mobs/areas if we see it becoming a problem but this, along with many other things, will be worked on in much greater detail once we get into testing.
For now, though, you can see us have fun with no leashing in some of our streams
I would think that, if you implement different AI for different mobs (calling for help, trying to retreat, etc.), maybe this behavior could also be added into it.
Ex. : A predator that is used to fighting/hunting alone may not think about anything else than catching his prey, while a "social mob" that is living in pack, close to his living grounds, will probably let go as soon as his terrirory is not in danger anymore,etc.
And it could even be different based on the type of "role" the mob has.
Ex.: Hunter/Explorer kind would pursue further, while "guards" would stay with the lord/building/terrirory they are tasked to defend, or the healer type would pursue as long as there is another mob pursuing with it (to heal it), and when it's not the case, they would fall back to their home,etc.
Think there is a lot of fun to be had with that..you could even push it further by having different hidden "AI attribute" impact how one would react. So maybe an "angry" guard would not think about it twice and would pursue to the end of the world, while a "coward" hunter would not go further than a few steps past his home boundaries. This is probably a little too much work though (not sure how easy it is to have a single mob type have random stats,etc.), but anyways.. just "thinking out loud" I guess!
You know what I wish MMos did more?
Remember Asheron's Call portaling? The game was seamless open word, but you had to zone into dungeons. however, instead of a loading screen, you get this really cool portal effect (think of the show sliders) as you were zoning. Your character would phase out with a particle effect, then a tube portal scene as your computer loaded the dungeon, and materialize on the other side.
Was really immersive, felt like you were beamin in! It was just a way to hide a loading screen, but it never took you out of the game. Very creative.
The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.
The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, solo Questing, Cut-Scenes...
www.CeaselessGuild.com