Developer has no objection to allowing high donating players have GM accounts. Not P2W... LOL

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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,162
    whilan said:
     It's a game dude. People like it. 
    Where is this enjoyable game?

    You are making it sound so nice and simple, I am burning to play immediately.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember EpicPosts: 7,196
    whilan said:
     It's a game dude. People like it. End of story.
    You have played CoE?  Please tell us how it ran on your system!   How was the combat?  What did you spend your EP on?  Did you get a magical talent?  What's your favorite part so far?
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    Oh... you didn't actually play the game because the game doesn't exist yet.  That's right.  Reality called.

    Though I hope your prognostication is correct and it launches with all the promised features in a fairly bug free environment and folks love it.   I'll be happy to play a good game that actually exists!

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • whilanwhilan Everett, WAMember UncommonPosts: 3,472
    edited January 2
    /head desk, good job on taking that to a literal extreme. No where did it say I actually played it. It's a game, it's not finished yet though. People enjoy following this and talking about it (that's why there was a period there). They don't worship it like the poster was saying. Didn't think I had to literally spell it out to you two.

    Edit: Actually I forgot, people did play it, you can find it at this link. It's just the pvp portion but they looked like they were enjoying it.
    Post edited by whilan on

    Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.

    Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.

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  • freegamesfreegames Member UncommonPosts: 240
    I am completely fine with the developers doing that as we all have to choice of what games to play.
  • ArchlyteArchlyte CaliforniaMember RarePosts: 1,387
    I see a GM account as more of a job than something that simply allows me to cheat the game. You will be required to respond to situations in game which means you will be having to give up your own agenda at times. 

    Because they have a very pen & paper mentality I think they are looking for co-GMs in some cases. The only thing that makes me worry about this would be if those Player GMs get to sign off on naming for Towns/Etc. If there is a server that has the most robust naming policies, that are enforced, that is where I will go. 
    MMORPG players are often like Hobbits: They don't like Adventures
  • whilanwhilan Everett, WAMember UncommonPosts: 3,472
    Archlyte said:
    I see a GM account as more of a job than something that simply allows me to cheat the game. You will be required to respond to situations in game which means you will be having to give up your own agenda at times. 

    Because they have a very pen & paper mentality I think they are looking for co-GMs in some cases. The only thing that makes me worry about this would be if those Player GMs get to sign off on naming for Towns/Etc. If there is a server that has the most robust naming policies, that are enforced, that is where I will go. 
    As long as it remains a "job" where they have bosses and supervisors to make sure all the rules are being followed. I'm okay with it. Certainly will be something I'm watching closely to see how it's handled.

    Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.

    Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Boca Raton, FLMember EpicPosts: 7,196
    whilan said:
    People enjoy following this and talking about it (that's why there was a period there). They don't worship it like the poster was saying. Didn't think I had to literally spell it out to you two
    The CEO just used the phrase "Preaching the gospel of COE" a day or two ago...

    True story.

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  • tatertoadtatertoad USAMember UncommonPosts: 23
    They better send that guy a cloth map of the game world or a vial that contains REAL BLOOD from the developers or something.  Wow.
  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaMember EpicPosts: 12,981
    I see a poster above is still naive and young i guess.To keep it simple,you cannot trust ANYONE,every single person would cut the throat of their best friend to save their own ass/job whatever.We use a term at work because of a few a-holes,we like to call it "throwing someone under the bus".

    Point being poster above  says as long as the rules are taken care of,well a lot of times,it is those people in charge breaking the very rules they are suppose to enforce.
    How would you know if some at the top or in charge are breaking the rules or  turning a blind eye to friends they have cheating?

    I like that phrase "i have seen things" because i certainly have,a lot of corrupt bs people out there.
    I'll end this by saying ..."Hi my name is Donald Trump,i don't need to pay taxes like the rest of you scrubs".

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • gir243gir243 Member UncommonPosts: 45
    Wizardry said:
    I see a poster above is still naive and young i guess.To keep it simple,you cannot trust ANYONE,every single person would cut the throat of their best friend to save their own ass/job whatever.We use a term at work because of a few a-holes,we like to call it "throwing someone under the bus".

    Point being poster above  says as long as the rules are taken care of,well a lot of times,it is those people in charge breaking the very rules they are suppose to enforce.
    How would you know if some at the top or in charge are breaking the rules or  turning a blind eye to friends they have cheating?

    I like that phrase "i have seen things" because i certainly have,a lot of corrupt bs people out there.
    I'll end this by saying ..."Hi my name is Donald Trump,i don't need to pay taxes like the rest of you scrubs".

    You must be great at parties.
    MaxBacon
  • ArchlyteArchlyte CaliforniaMember RarePosts: 1,387
    I think if you go into this game looking to check off things that are not as good for you as they appear to be for others you should just hang it up now. Fair does not live in Elyria I'm thinking. I plan on working for everything I have in game, and I may fail at being anything spectacular. I won't be spending a lot of time being envious of other players no matter what their situation may be.
    MMORPG players are often like Hobbits: They don't like Adventures
  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 1,740
    Wizardry said:
    It is truly sickening to witness what is happening to morals and gaming and the world in general.
    People have no problem at all lying or deceiving customers to fill their greedy pockets with money.
    Then we see petty,pitiful things like "your banned because you said something bad' or don't talk about political but it is ok to lie and steal from your fellow man/women,morals of people are way off in left field somewhere.
    There should be a definitive number set by LAW,that number like all things in life should have leeway to cover unexpected overhead and costs like idk maybe 10-15%.

    You have to file for a license to start crowd funding,determine said cost and that is it,no more taking free money from naive gamer's to simply fill your greedy pocket.

    I said it years ago that when Smedley started cash shop gaming in EQ2,it was a dark path leading to far worse times in gaming.You open that door and it never closes and then you can NEVER trust that developer/publisher,things can change at any moment and ruin your entire game.

    There are legal government offices you can complain to,file complaints based on misrepresentation and deceitful marketing.The FTC for example like many offices are lazy ass hats ,however if they see a large lawsuit,they will jump in,although the end result is usually a monetary settlement which proves how crooked the entire world is.Just like drug pharmacies being sued,they NEVER get closed down,it is just a $$$ settlement then carry on as usual.

    How about when a so called Eve employee was found corrupt,lmao >>>cover up,how naive of people to think it was only one person taking the fall?No different than the HAsbro lawsuit where one guy took the fall and a nice tidy settlement was made with the government.The world is a VERY crooked place and i sadly feel MOST do not know how bad it really is.

    Well its more like people want to be part of something they simply don't have the money to be a part of but that doesn't stop them, I'm talking about non-financed developers with ideas bigger than their pocket books. They refuse to start small and build their company with great little games that sell and make money and grow their business traditionally, they want to develop the mega game right here and right now, without the hard work of proving yourself as a company.

     So they will literally do anything to find away to be in the industry, anything.  They will do anything or sell anything or cut any deal out there to get cash flowing now so they can be an instant MMO game developer.  It has completely changed the content and base game mechanics away from developers being fully funded and just sitting in an office and building the game of your dreams. To sitting in an office and building a game that will make money while your building a game that some what resembles the game of your dreams through cash shops and crowd funding, etc.

  • MrTugglesMrTuggles bolivar, OHMember UncommonPosts: 134
    Caspien " While I have no plan to do so... I have no objection to allowing the highly influential players to log off of their primary accounts and log in under a GM account to RP a Vice/Virtue."

    Note: Influence points (IP) can be purchased for cash.  

    As a reference this came about because of a Discord uproar over his intention to allow a certain player to purchase multiple Kingdoms on the same server (at $10k a pop).  Apparently according to Caspien in the thread the guy donated over $40,000.

    https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/14989/equity-vs-fairness?page=2#post156511

    Keep in mind this is a full PvP game of territory control.  I'm sure you can trust a guy who paid $40,000 for your game not to take advantage of having GM access to the same game... 




    Maybe you should post the entire statement he made instead of cutting/pasting to suit your agenda.

    For those of you who didn't care to read the beginning of the thread, this is the FULL quote which the OP decided to dissect

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    "Whoah, slow down a bit. Let's be clear, the conversation was whether or not I'd cap him at 2 Kingdoms purchased/merged, or allow him to go for three. At which point, the topic of adding a tier for emperor, with other Kings answerable to him was raised. And if so, what the design experience would be for the Emperor tier. There were several suggestions jokingly thrown out. There wasn't a serious offer made to make him one of the Vices or Virtues, Ancients, Guardians, or anything else...

    That all said, my reason for posting this topic had nothing to do with what you were referring to as 'context' of the topic. I posted it simply because I felt like it nicely captured my philosophy on fairness vs. equity and wanted to make sure it was communicated to a larger audience. it had nothing to do with Adam or the conversation around it.

    And again, that being said, with respect to the 'pay to win' conversation, of making someone a Virtue or Vice. While I have no plan to do so... I have no objection to allowing the highly influential players to log off of their primary accounts and log in under a GM account to RP a Vice/Virtue.

    It's not P2W, it's pay to create a compelling story for the rest of the server. Anything another player does which adds value to your experience is for your benefit. And really, what difference does it make who DM's the role of Vices or Virtues if they exist? Does it need to be Soulbound Studios employees? And if not, what harm is there in allowing the roles to be filled by influential players?"



    People also need to take into account that YOU CAN LOSE YOUR TITLE/LANDS. Another player, or group of players can overthrow a kingdom, and take the King/Queen title/role from another player.

  • WellspringWellspring Charlotte, NCMember RarePosts: 455
    MrTuggles said:

    People also need to take into account that YOU CAN LOSE YOUR TITLE/LANDS. Another player, or group of players can overthrow a kingdom, and take the King/Queen title/role from another player.

    Sure it is "possible". It is also "possible" for any of us to become president of the United States. It doesn't mean it is likely. 

    We have yet to experience the mechanics of how easy it will be for a king to lose his title. Until then, I don't think you can say this is factual proof that the game is not pay to win.

    With the exposition being a safe period for the first few months, my impressions so far is that it is going to take a King royally screwing up in order for him to lose his title. 
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  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 806
    MrTuggles said:

    People also need to take into account that YOU CAN LOSE YOUR TITLE/LANDS. Another player, or group of players can overthrow a kingdom, and take the King/Queen title/role from another player.

    Sure it is "possible". It is also "possible" for any of us to become president of the United States. It doesn't mean it is likely. 

    We have yet to experience the mechanics of how easy it will be for a king to lose his title. Until then, I don't think you can say this is factual proof that the game is not pay to win.

    With the exposition being a safe period for the first few months, my impressions so far is that it is going to take a King royally screwing up in order for him to lose his title. 
    I'd be pretty amused if a bunch of whales paid thousands in advance for their king title for the game launch, then it turns out you can lose Kingship just by someone taking a few pot shots at you like how easy it is to lose things in Eve when you're careless.
  • Shas_TraitorShas_Traitor HanoiMember UncommonPosts: 8
    I imagine it will be the goal of many a throng of players and whole guilds to ruin the days of 'kings' and 'nobles', with no interest of holding a title of their own, just wanting to make someone else lose something they care about and that makes them feel important in a video game.

    The developers have to know that is going to be a serious issue and anyone buying a kingdom with real world money is simply not going to be able to hold it without a significant player killer guild to back them up. And if the kingdom buyer in question is not the leader of said guild they might find that their leader actually puts a knife in their back and steals it for the impudence of thinking they could buy the guild's leadership.

    At least any respectable PvP guild leader would basically have to if he wanted anyone, particularly his guild, to continue to respect him and listen to his orders.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshMember RarePosts: 6,340
    This game went from slightly below average to worse.
  • HeretiqueHeretique Member UncommonPosts: 1,390
    If this is true, game is dead before it's even out of the gate.

    Originally posted by salsa41
    are you have problem ?

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