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Razer Reveals Razer Blade Pro
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2. Good gaming performance
3. Proper cooling
Choose any two. You can see which two Razer went with--and which one got cut. Whenever a laptop advertises itself as "thin and light", that should mean you don't want it as a gaming laptop.
For hotels, if you're getting that class of internal hardware, you want about an extra inch of thickness and a few more pounds to let you have a robust cooling system. MSI and Clevo (rebranded as Sager, etc.) build that sort of gaming laptop. Razer doesn't.
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The 100% Adobe RGB is incredible
The 1080 is obviously great
How thin it is, is excellent but WAY too good to be true.
I'm concerned about Raid 0 as well
I'm concerned about it overheating. I will have to wait until hands on reviews
The price bonkers if it doesn't include the 2TB SSD option
Also, it goes without saying aesthetically... Razer has one of the the ugliest, most obnoxious color scheme and logo combinations ever. It looks like a slutty tramp stamp tattoo.
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Personally, I have a really tricked out home PC (i7, 980Ti 32 MB Ram, SSD etc.) and a decent notebook (970M 16 MB ram, i7 SSD etc.)
I've literally been PC gaming since it has existed and have been seriously looking at the option of going with a decent notebook paired with some king of dock that lets me amp up my graphics, add ports, storage etc. The idea would be to swap to one notebook and lose the home PC but keep my widescreen monitor.
I've looked at Alienware, Razer, 3rd party stuff over USB C; noting seems quite ready for primetime yet.
My experience with notebooks too is the hardware just doesn't hold up over time. It would certainly be a decent option. I love the idea of coming home and popping in my notebook and just expanding into a home system. For me, that would probably look like Intel Iris graphics in the notebook and a couple high end cards in the dock at home driving my big 34 inch widescreen
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http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9873-clevo-p870dm3.html?startcustomization=1
http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt73vr-titan-pro-4k-225.html?startcustomization=1
You can get the same thing at about the same price from a number of sources, not just Xotic PC. I link to them because their site makes it easy to find the information I'm looking for.
With appropriate configurations, all three options can get you a 17.3" monitor with a 3840x2160 resolution, 32 GB of memory, a 1 TB M.2 SSD (as two SSDs of half that size in RAID 0 on the Razer), and a GeForce GTX 1080M. The Clevo and MSI laptops will do that for several hundred dollars less than the Razer. And then there are some differences:
CPU:
Razer: Core i7-6700HQ
MSI: Core i7-6820HQ
Clevo: Core i7-6700K
MSI went with a faster, higher bin of the CPU than Razer. Clevo stuck a desktop CPU in there, which is substantially faster yet.
Thickness:
Razer: 0.88"
MSI: 1.76"
Clevo: 1.86"
Weight:
Razer: 7.8 lb
MSI: 8.59 lb
Clevo: 12.13 lb
Yes, the Razer is lighter and especially thinner than the others. But that's the problem: MSI and Clevo did what they needed to do to properly cool the system under heavy, prolonged gaming loads, even if that means it's heavier and especially thicker. Razer simply didn't. The Razer laptop will be fine so long as you don't play games that push it hard, but give it some time for dust to accumulate and heavy gaming loads are going to be trouble.
That the Clevo is so much heavier than the MSI is probably at least in part because Clevo has more heat to dissipate from going with a 91 W desktop CPU (or 65 W if you get the Core i7-6700 non-K) rather than a 45 W laptop CPU. They're the same chip, but the desktop version is clocked higher.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if they all use exactly the same monitor, as there can't be too many 3840x2160, 17.3" laptop monitors with G-sync out there. For comparison, for a desktop, New Egg only has two 4K monitors with G-sync of any size.
Yup. In fact I tell people, adding a second monitor is the cheapest way to boost employee efficiency. Three is better. Five is right out.
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Also why are these manufacturers so hell bent on making these "slim" laptops when they KNOW the heat will be a serious problem? I have yet to see a laptop with a 1080 in it that doesn't look like a battleship (for good reason).
Pushing the boundaries of performance in a thin form factor design requires a super-efficient thermal management solution to keep the heat at bay. To survive the heat of the most graphically intense battles, the Razer Blade Pro utilizes an innovative custom cooling design. Dynamic heat exchange coupled with bleeding edge vapor chamber technology spreads heat out quickly, evenly and efficiently. To avoid “hot spots” an internal fan facilitates air movement within the chassis to deliver a cool and comfortable experience, whether you’re gaming on ultra-settings in 4K or rendering high resolution 3D animations.
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Raid 0 it's a bad idea? Right...
Actually wrong, but not going to start a debate with you on this one.
And btw , just build an exact same laptop on that site you gave , and the total is 4.2k - 3% discount and that will be around 4k and some $. The only difference ( and a good one ) it's the CPU. 6700k is around 25%+ better then 6700hq and I really don't know why they went with 6700hq.
Anyway , if I had that cash , 100% would not buy a Clevo laptop. Yes, I will pay more for the brand, because for me, brand is a pretty big "player" when I am buying my parts/laptop/etc. And I also don't like MSI . But that's just me !
My pick will be without questions something from Asus, like this one : http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-GX800VH-Notebook-Preview.171399.0.html
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Nvidia has gotten a lot more aggressive about throttling back clock speeds based on the temperature, to the degree that it now happens quite a bit even in a well-cooled desktop. It's quite possible that the GTX 1080M in the Razer laptop won't have much in the way of overheating to kill hardware problems, but instead will just throttle far more aggressively so that it gets 80%-90% of the gaming performance of the otherwise identical card in better cooled laptops.
Have you contacted vendors to ask about the exact monitor specs on the other laptops? It wouldn't be surprising if they're exactly the same monitor as in the Razer laptop. They might not be, but it wouldn't hurt to ask.
Meanwhile, the performance benefit for consumer use is basically that you get higher numbers in some synthetic benchmarks and that's about it. Maybe you want RAID 0 if you're recording high resolution, uncompressed video, but that's about it as consumer uses go.
Asus only intermittent builds laptops that go after the high end. From your link, it looks like they're back in that market this generation. It's a bit of a stretch to call that form factor a laptop, but that's fine for the business traveler playing games in hotels after work crowd.
Both of my links above came to about $3200 or so with the specs I said. I'm not sure how you added another $1000 to it.
The heat, that's the first thing I thought of.
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