And now you have repeated a comment for a third time that utterly fails to address anything I have actually said to you.
How am I supposed to trust your capability to glean information from a video when you apparently can't glean anything from written text?
as you have yet to learn if you have a point that is worth making you have to repeat it several times before it sinks in, as I have on both the point regarding 'you cant know until you try' and this one.
if its important to you and you think its not horseshit, then repeat it. otherwise please stop replying to me.
thanks
I am repeating that you should actually read the post you have chosen to respond to so that you are not spewing entirely unrelated pointless crap.
You repeating something that doesn't even address that which you have replied to is entirely useless. There is nothing to "sink in" because you aren't providing information that can relate or refute that which you have given argument to.
Try actually reading the damnposts (plural, since there are now two with content that you have presently completely failed to read or give proper response to) before responding again. If you can't do that, then no response would be better from you than regurgitating the tangential nonsense you have offered so far.
if you do not repeat your rebuttal as lead as I have asked you to I am going to assume its not very good. and i am going to repeat by asking you to now please stop responding to me
If its good its worth repeating which is something I have already repeated.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
He only uses the "reply" feature because otherwise the mods would slap him down for posting literally the same thing over and over again...
nor does anyone else which is why I have to repeat what I say often
in fact in the majority of cases a response directly to what I just said is more likely something that doesnt affect my statement at all so I have to repeat it but use different words. Its what i expect to happen and it does often
That which is worth saying is worth repeating, that which is not worth saying is not worth repeating
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
You weren't even capable of reading them when I first posted them!
I can even give you a directlink like I already did in the post you just responded to, which means you have all the information right bloody there. Yet, I can not have any assurance at this point that you are remotely capable of acknowledging said information.
To which this point can be made;
Repeating things ad-nauseam is not a tactic of intelligence, it's a brute-force strategy of beating one's opinion like a drum until it drowns out any reasonable counterpoints made. You regurgitating the same argument at people even though that argument fails to apply to the commentary you are responding to means absolutely nothing as a consequence. The more you repeat a statement that doesn't even manage to relate to anything the less weight your argument has. It just becomes a situation like the weird dude yelling about the rapture outside the mall.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
You weren't even capable of reading them when I first posted them!
I can even give you a directlink like I already did in the post you just responded to, which means you have all the information right bloody there. Yet, I can not have any assurance at this point that you are remotely capable of acknowledging said information.
To which this point can be made;
Repeating things ad-nauseam is not a tactic of intelligence, it's a brute-force strategy of beating one's opinion like a drum until it drowns out any reasonable counterpoints made. You regurgitating the same argument at people even though that argument fails to apply to the commentary you are responding to means absolutely nothing as a consequence. The more you repeat a statement that doesn't even manage to relate to anything the less weight your argument has. It just becomes a situation like the weird dude yelling about the rapture outside the mall.
please stop replying to me
its clear you have no rebutle worth discussing I am sorry but move on please
for now I will put you on ignore
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Holy bloody stool, I just linked you to the posts!
Click the blue text, magic happens and you have all the words in front of you. If you really are incapable of reading that stuff then you are simply proving what it says in those posts to be correct at this point. Point in case about confirmation bias I guess.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
ED looks like the most boring game ever made. It's not chill like NMS. It's not economically deep like EVE. They focus on the boring mundane parts of the game. It doesn't seem like they excel at any one thing. Every video I've seen of this game looks so boring and tedious. It makes Pantheon combat look exciting.
What about this game is interesting and compelling?
NMS is not chill its anyoying to the extreme and as a result it causes a great deal of stress and anger
Do you own it and play it?
I dont own a knife that I have ever stuck in my eye either but I can tell without sticking a knife in my eye and licking my blood off of it that its painful and I dont want a part of it
I don't own it, I don't own anything like it, I've never played it but I know it sucks because I read somewhere that someone said it does. You know how ridiculous that sounds?
Plus, you DON'T know if sticking a knife in your eye would hurt if you haven't done it. You can make the assumption based on what you know, but you haven't actually experienced it, so you can't say that it would definitively hurt. You could have a sensory issue you don't know about or some weird pain tolerance. Just saying, you may be right in using your knowledge to make a decision to not stick a knife in your eye, but you can't say it would definitely hurt.
its like stastics.
can you be 99% sure that knife hurts your eye of you stick it in there without actually doing it? yes.
99% is pretty fucking solid bro
however in the strangle portal of gaming communities people want to suggest any % that is not 100% must be 0%
LOL I cant believe I'm getting into this. So if you watched someone stick a fork in their eye then almost 100% of them will say it hurts. Then base your opinion on seeing those results. But you are basing your opinion on watching a game that only 45% of the players say is bad. And a lot of them base their opinion solely on technical issues. So you can be 45% sure you won't like the game but not 100% sure because you are basing an opinion on opinions and not facts.
its very simple.
if you watch a lot of youtube videos of game play, like watching videos of people sticking forks in their eyes you will get a very good understanding of what the experience is like.
also, not 100% does not mean 0%
I have to admit I am not as attuned as you are. I can watch a video of someone stick a fork in their eye and still have no idea what that would feel like. Like being shot. I have watched it in real life and in film but I have no ideas what it feels like.
when you watch videos of game play like watching people stick forks in their eyes you can get a very accurate overview of what the experience is like.
when you watch videos of game play like watching people have sex you get a pretty good idea of what sex is like. is it 100%? no but its much greater than 0%
the entire meme of 'you have no idea until you try it' is faulty to its core
What a bunch of ridiculous statements
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
I can watch a video of someone getting a fork in the eye. You can cringe imagining the pain, you have no idea how bad the pain is. Is it slam your thumb in a vehicle door pain? or is I want to die now pain? you would have no bloody idea unless you have experienced it. Many serious injuries you don't even feel because of shock.
Watching a porno gives a virgin not a clue of what sex feels like. Heck if a participant screams one might get the idea that its a painful experience similar to sticking a fork in ones eye.
Like I said it can give you an overview of whether said game is appealing or something you have no interest in. I've been disappointed with many a game that looked good on a stream.
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
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yes..it absolutly totally can and does.
if your not watching a dev controlled promo video that is EXACTLY what happens because the lets player says 'oh wow this is reallly off'
its like how you figured out not to put your hand on a burning stove. you didnt have to do it to learn not to do it
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
You what? Docking is one of the simplest things in the game, my 6 year old has no problems docking any of his ships using a HOTAS or a gamepad. Request permission, landing gear down, dock, about as simple as it gets.
Try to use the keyboard. The default keyboard settings make everything 100% more difficult for no reason. I'm guessing they should warn people to get a gamepad or forget the game. The tutorial dogfight took like 20 minutes of me spinning in a circle fighting with the keyboard mostly.
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
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yes..it absolutly totally can and does.
if your not watching a dev controlled promo video that is EXACTLY what happens because the lets player says 'oh wow this is reallly off'
Unless those who are streaming the game are paid by the publisher to say only positive things. Which happens more often than we all wished it wouldn't.
which is where the magic of statistics come in.
1. its fairly easy to smell those out and serioiusl? this is the one thing that will bring the entire house of cards down? really? this one reason is why you can never trust any review of a book, tv or movie, never watch any video or read any article about a game to get an idea of if you might like it or not? really..? umm hell no.
2. statistics gives us the unconscious skill via experience to smell out the fake lets play from the honest ones. and stastics also teaches that in a crowd system like youtube that its more likely the average will be the honest and not the deceptive
3. I very seriously can not believe I have to defend this, its painfully obviously a retarded line of logic.
now your actually tyrying to suggest and seriously expecting people to beleive that you can not get a good idea of what a game is like because there is a chance youtuber will lie to the point where massive amounts of people will be incorrect on what the game is actally like. thus the only way to learn about a game is to never watch a video and instead just buy it.
i call bullshit on that
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
...
yes..it absolutly totally can and does.
if your not watching a dev controlled promo video that is EXACTLY what happens because the lets player says 'oh wow this is reallly off'
its like how you figured out not to put your hand on a burning stove. you didnt have to do it to learn not to do it
Your taking someone else's opinion about it and that's fine and dandy, nothing wrong with that if you trust the opinion.
Someones opinion might be fine for certain types of games. IMHO games and/or simulations like Elite Dangerous of this topic, streams do them no justice what so ever. The big draw for me personally is how the game "feels" Does it give me a sense of mass and movement, of inertia... its all about physics and the developers capability of being able to trick "my" brain. A streamer can show me game play and praise it till the cows come home. All that will do is give me an idea as to whether or not I'm willing to try it. It gives me zero sense of what it is actually like and to TBH with Elite Dangerous I'm actually disappointed with those aspects. To be fair it is a very difficult thing to achieve.
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
...
yes..it absolutly totally can and does.
if your not watching a dev controlled promo video that is EXACTLY what happens because the lets player says 'oh wow this is reallly off'
its like how you figured out not to put your hand on a burning stove. you didnt have to do it to learn not to do it
Your taking someone else's opinion about it and that's fine and dandy, nothing wrong with that if you trust the opinion.
Someones opinion might be fine for certain types of games. IMHO games and/or simulations like Elite Dangerous of this topic, streams do them no justice what so ever. The big draw for me personally is how the game "feels" Does it give me a sense of mass and movement, of inertia... its all about physics and the developers capability of being able to trick "my" brain. A streamer can show me game play and praise it till the cows come home. All that will do is give me an idea as to whether or not I'm willing to try it. It gives me zero sense of what it is actually like and to TBH with Elite Dangerous I'm actually disappointed with those aspects. To be fair it is a very difficult thing to achieve.
one can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
its it 100% accurate? no but often very close. more over, I dont need to play NMS to know that when you land on a planet you can not crash. I have enough gaming experience to know I would not like that.
you can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
I dont need to play NMS to know that when you come up to a station to talk to a trader that you have the graphic animation as it is
I dont need ot play NMS to know that every (or many) of the land based stations are the same.
I dont need to play NMS to know what the animals and planets look like
you can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
I dont have to play NMS to know that there is not any building in it
I dont need to play NMS to know that the game play between this:
and this:
are in fact different
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I dont own a knife that I have ever stuck in my eye either but I can tell without sticking a knife in my eye and licking my blood off of it that its painful and I dont want a part of it
So NMS is annoying and not chill but you do not own it nor have ever played it....right. Carry on.
I also havent jumped out of an airplane so i dont know that its painful but I have seen other people do it.
the entire 'you dont own it' logic is extreemly faulty to its very core and countless examples can illustrate that its about as relevant a rebuttle as saying 'pluto drives a car' is. if only one would actually read my examples
I own Space Engineers and Elite Dangerous and No Man's Sky. I can speak from experience owning and playing all three. Wisdom is gained through experience.
your rebuttles make zero sense and do not apply and I am telling you they are about as relevant as saying 'because of reasons'
I state again.
I have not stuck a fork in my eye but I know its painful
how many times do you want me to resay this with multiple examples?
that 'meme' of an arguement is horrifically weak and needs to be put to its death bed
You are stating an opinion based off of videos and parroting others. I am basing my opinion off of actually playing the games. I respect your opinion to like or not like a game. I just ask you do the same. Cheers!
if you want people to respect you more then just say you dont agree with me. Dont pull that half ass 'you need to explore all 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets before you know for sure. its very obvious your just being intentionally disruptive with replies like that.
You dont need to play a video game to get a very good understanding of what the experience is like, peroid
I think you have had that VR thing hanging off your mug for so long your face has become stretched downward and it's cutting off the circulation to your brain somewhat. Kind of like Ash whe he chose the wrong book in The Army of Darkness. Why the long face?
if you want people to respect you more then just say you dont agree with me. Dont pull that half ass 'you need to explore all 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets before you know for sure. its very obvious your just being intentionally disruptive with replies like that.
You dont need to play a video game to get a very good understanding of what the experience is like, peroid
I think you have had that VR thing hanging off your mug for so long your face has become stretched downward and it's cutting off the circulation to your brain somewhat. Kind of like Ash whe he chose the wrong book in The Army of Darkness. Why the long face? You're seriously sitting in here ripping games you ain't even played dude?
people here are trying to suggest that the only way to know that this
and this:
are in fact different. is to play both of them.
meaning all reviews, all youtube videos of all games, all news shows, all game articles are all useless becauase you have no way of knowing without playing them. really?
horeshit
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
ED looks like the most boring game ever made. It's not chill like NMS. It's not economically deep like EVE. They focus on the boring mundane parts of the game. It doesn't seem like they excel at any one thing. Every video I've seen of this game looks so boring and tedious. It makes Pantheon combat look exciting.
What about this game is interesting and compelling?
NMS is not chill its anyoying to the extreme and as a result it causes a great deal of stress and anger
Do you own it and play it?
I dont own a knife that I have ever stuck in my eye either but I can tell without sticking a knife in my eye and licking my blood off of it that its painful and I dont want a part of it
I hope you don't take or receive stock advice with that mindset. It takes a bit more work to be able to give advice.
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
...
yes..it absolutly totally can and does.
if your not watching a dev controlled promo video that is EXACTLY what happens because the lets player says 'oh wow this is reallly off'
its like how you figured out not to put your hand on a burning stove. you didnt have to do it to learn not to do it
Your taking someone else's opinion about it and that's fine and dandy, nothing wrong with that if you trust the opinion.
Someones opinion might be fine for certain types of games. IMHO games and/or simulations like Elite Dangerous of this topic, streams do them no justice what so ever. The big draw for me personally is how the game "feels" Does it give me a sense of mass and movement, of inertia... its all about physics and the developers capability of being able to trick "my" brain. A streamer can show me game play and praise it till the cows come home. All that will do is give me an idea as to whether or not I'm willing to try it. It gives me zero sense of what it is actually like and to TBH with Elite Dangerous I'm actually disappointed with those aspects. To be fair it is a very difficult thing to achieve.
one can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
its it 100% accurate? no but often very close. more over, I dont need to play NMS to know that when you land on a planet you can not crash. I have enough gaming experience to know I would not like that.
you can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
I can agree with that.
You can get a good enough idea to make a purchasing decision, but it won't necessarily always be the right one.
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
...
yes..it absolutly totally can and does.
if your not watching a dev controlled promo video that is EXACTLY what happens because the lets player says 'oh wow this is reallly off'
its like how you figured out not to put your hand on a burning stove. you didnt have to do it to learn not to do it
Your taking someone else's opinion about it and that's fine and dandy, nothing wrong with that if you trust the opinion.
Someones opinion might be fine for certain types of games. IMHO games and/or simulations like Elite Dangerous of this topic, streams do them no justice what so ever. The big draw for me personally is how the game "feels" Does it give me a sense of mass and movement, of inertia... its all about physics and the developers capability of being able to trick "my" brain. A streamer can show me game play and praise it till the cows come home. All that will do is give me an idea as to whether or not I'm willing to try it. It gives me zero sense of what it is actually like and to TBH with Elite Dangerous I'm actually disappointed with those aspects. To be fair it is a very difficult thing to achieve.
one can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
its it 100% accurate? no but often very close. more over, I dont need to play NMS to know that when you land on a planet you can not crash. I have enough gaming experience to know I would not like that.
you can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
I can agree with that.
You can get a good enough idea to make a purchasing decision, but it won't necessarily always be the right one.
right.
and if you know enough about a game and its features and you have enough experience with games and if said game appears to have known features that you know you dont like becuase you have experienced them before or you can imagine you would not like them because you have gamed enough and you see things that are clear indicators of patterns you have seen before and if the game doesnt have a feature that you think really is intresting compared to others then you can call it shit without having played it. there is a slim chance you might be wrong and often this chance is about as high as aliens coming to visit but yes the chance does exist
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if you want people to respect you more then just say you dont agree with me. Dont pull that half ass 'you need to explore all 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets before you know for sure. its very obvious your just being intentionally disruptive with replies like that.
You dont need to play a video game to get a very good understanding of what the experience is like, peroid
I think you have had that VR thing hanging off your mug for so long your face has become stretched downward and it's cutting off the circulation to your brain somewhat. Kind of like Ash whe he chose the wrong book in The Army of Darkness. Why the long face? You're seriously sitting in here ripping games you ain't even played dude?
people here are trying to suggest that the only way to know that this
and this:
are in fact different. is to play both of them.
meaning all reviews, all youtube videos of all games, all news shows, all game articles are all useless becauase you have no way of knowing without playing them. really?
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That leaked video before launch sold me . I wasn't Into the hype before that. I'm just waiting for the PC issues to get sorted before grabbing it and for my body to adjust to this gosh darn topomax for my migraine headaches. Focus and concentration is a bitch at the moment. I want to enjoy it fully.
I dont own a knife that I have ever stuck in my eye either but I can tell without sticking a knife in my eye and licking my blood off of it that its painful and I dont want a part of it
So NMS is annoying and not chill but you do not own it nor have ever played it....right. Carry on.
I also havent jumped out of an airplane so i dont know that its painful but I have seen other people do it.
the entire 'you dont own it' logic is extreemly faulty to its very core and countless examples can illustrate that its about as relevant a rebuttle as saying 'pluto drives a car' is. if only one would actually read my examples
I own Space Engineers and Elite Dangerous and No Man's Sky. I can speak from experience owning and playing all three. Wisdom is gained through experience.
your rebuttles make zero sense and do not apply and I am telling you they are about as relevant as saying 'because of reasons'
I state again.
I have not stuck a fork in my eye but I know its painful
how many times do you want me to resay this with multiple examples?
that 'meme' of an arguement is horrifically weak and needs to be put to its death bed
You are stating an opinion based off of videos and parroting others. I am basing my opinion off of actually playing the games. I respect your opinion to like or not like a game. I just ask you do the same. Cheers!
if you want people to respect you more then just say you dont agree with me. Dont pull that half ass 'you need to explore all 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets before you know for sure. its very obvious your just being intentionally disruptive with replies like that.
You dont need to play a video game to get a very good understanding of what the experience is like, peroid
You can get info in a variety of ways. However, I'd take the advice of someone who has experience playing than the guy who says 'Yea, like, I have a friend, who said, like it sucks.... then i watched a youtube video and it was like sooooo lame.'
if you want people to respect you more then just say you dont agree with me. Dont pull that half ass 'you need to explore all 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets before you know for sure. its very obvious your just being intentionally disruptive with replies like that.
You dont need to play a video game to get a very good understanding of what the experience is like, peroid
I think you have had that VR thing hanging off your mug for so long your face has become stretched downward and it's cutting off the circulation to your brain somewhat. Kind of like Ash whe he chose the wrong book in The Army of Darkness. Why the long face? You're seriously sitting in here ripping games you ain't even played dude?
people here are trying to suggest that the only way to know that this
and this:
are in fact different. is to play both of them.
meaning all reviews, all youtube videos of all games, all news shows, all game articles are all useless becauase you have no way of knowing without playing them. really?
horeshit
That leaked video before launch sold me . I wasn't Into the hype before that. I'm just waiting for the PC issues to get sorted before grabbing it and for my body to adjust to this gosh darn topomax for my migraine headaches. Focus and concentration is a bitch at the moment. I want to enjoy it fully.
missed my point.
zombies running around in a 2d enviroment killing them vs a 3d space game.
one CAN tell the difference between those two games without actually playing both of them. The examples where fairly random
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"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
If its good its worth repeating which is something I have already repeated.
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He only uses the "reply" feature because otherwise the mods would slap him down for posting literally the same thing over and over again...
in fact in the majority of cases a response directly to what I just said is more likely something that doesnt affect my statement at all so I have to repeat it but use different words. Its what i expect to happen and it does often
That which is worth saying is worth repeating, that which is not worth saying is not worth repeating
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I can even give you a direct link like I already did in the post you just responded to, which means you have all the information right bloody there. Yet, I can not have any assurance at this point that you are remotely capable of acknowledging said information.
To which this point can be made;
Repeating things ad-nauseam is not a tactic of intelligence, it's a brute-force strategy of beating one's opinion like a drum until it drowns out any reasonable counterpoints made. You regurgitating the same argument at people even though that argument fails to apply to the commentary you are responding to means absolutely nothing as a consequence. The more you repeat a statement that doesn't even manage to relate to anything the less weight your argument has. It just becomes a situation like the weird dude yelling about the rapture outside the mall.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
its clear you have no rebutle worth discussing I am sorry but move on please
for now I will put you on ignore
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Click the blue text, magic happens and you have all the words in front of you. If you really are incapable of reading that stuff then you are simply proving what it says in those posts to be correct at this point. Point in case about confirmation bias I guess.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
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Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
I can watch a video of someone getting a fork in the eye. You can cringe imagining the pain, you have no idea how bad the pain is. Is it slam your thumb in a vehicle door pain? or is I want to die now pain? you would have no bloody idea unless you have experienced it. Many serious injuries you don't even feel because of shock.
Watching a porno gives a virgin not a clue of what sex feels like. Heck if a participant screams one might get the idea that its a painful experience similar to sticking a fork in ones eye.
Like I said it can give you an overview of whether said game is appealing or something you have no interest in. I've been disappointed with many a game that looked good on a stream.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
if your not watching a dev controlled promo video that is EXACTLY what happens because the lets player says 'oh wow this is reallly off'
its like how you figured out not to put your hand on a burning stove. you didnt have to do it to learn not to do it
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1. its fairly easy to smell those out and serioiusl? this is the one thing that will bring the entire house of cards down? really? this one reason is why you can never trust any review of a book, tv or movie, never watch any video or read any article about a game to get an idea of if you might like it or not? really..? umm hell no.
2. statistics gives us the unconscious skill via experience to smell out the fake lets play from the honest ones. and stastics also teaches that in a crowd system like youtube that its more likely the average will be the honest and not the deceptive
3. I very seriously can not believe I have to defend this, its painfully obviously a retarded line of logic.
now your actually tyrying to suggest and seriously expecting people to beleive that you can not get a good idea of what a game is like because there is a chance youtuber will lie to the point where massive amounts of people will be incorrect on what the game is actally like. thus the only way to learn about a game is to never watch a video and instead just buy it.
i call bullshit on that
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Someones opinion might be fine for certain types of games. IMHO games and/or simulations like Elite Dangerous of this topic, streams do them no justice what so ever. The big draw for me personally is how the game "feels" Does it give me a sense of mass and movement, of inertia... its all about physics and the developers capability of being able to trick "my" brain. A streamer can show me game play and praise it till the cows come home. All that will do is give me an idea as to whether or not I'm willing to try it. It gives me zero sense of what it is actually like and to TBH with Elite Dangerous I'm actually disappointed with those aspects. To be fair it is a very difficult thing to achieve.
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its it 100% accurate? no but often very close. more over, I dont need to play NMS to know that when you land on a planet you can not crash. I have enough gaming experience to know I would not like that.
you can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
I dont need to play NMS to know that when you come up to a station to talk to a trader that you have the graphic animation as it is
I dont need ot play NMS to know that every (or many) of the land based stations are the same.
I dont need to play NMS to know what the animals and planets look like
you can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
I dont have to play NMS to know that there is not any building in it
I dont need to play NMS to know that the game play between this:
and this:
are in fact different
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this
and this:
are in fact different. is to play both of them.
meaning all reviews, all youtube videos of all games, all news shows, all game articles are all useless becauase you have no way of knowing without playing them. really?
horeshit
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I self identify as a monkey.
You can get a good enough idea to make a purchasing decision, but it won't necessarily always be the right one.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
and if you know enough about a game and its features and you have enough experience with games and if said game appears to have known features that you know you dont like becuase you have experienced them before or you can imagine you would not like them because you have gamed enough and you see things that are clear indicators of patterns you have seen before and if the game doesnt have a feature that you think really is intresting compared to others then you can call it shit without having played it. there is a slim chance you might be wrong and often this chance is about as high as aliens coming to visit but yes the chance does exist
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I self identify as a monkey.
zombies running around in a 2d enviroment killing them vs a 3d space game.
one CAN tell the difference between those two games without actually playing both of them. The examples where fairly random
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