Kickstarter at 75% - just a quarter left :)

lunawisp

CoE Kickstarter has reached 75% with 25 days still to go. The higher value 'early bird' options have sold out, a couple of the lower tier ones remain.

drakeordanska

I know a few people waiting for the end of the month to see what their finances are like before they pledge too.

Zultra

You would think the game has failed with some of the haters I have seen, but this blows them away. 

Octagon7711

I like their video.  Their office looks sparse which means they don't appear to spend a lot of money on office decorations.  Would really like to see the games UI.

Thomas2006

Zultra said:

You would think the game has failed with some of the haters I have seen, but this blows them away. 

I don't think it blows anything away. By your logic then Star Citizen is a super success and there is not even a real solid product out of it yet. (And yes I am fully behind backing star citizen and hopes it makes it)


The same can be said about this game. I hope it does well and what they advertise comes out of it. Yet, I have reasons to believe that it wont end exactly like they want it to. They (at this time) do not have the talent to pull off what they want to do. Maybe there $1mil will change that but to achieve what they want is going to take way more then just a million. Other companies have tried and spent WAY more and could not pull it off with $100 million +


So yes I hope I am wrong and the game comes out exactly like they want, cause I want to play what they are pitching as the game. But I won't invest money into it until I have full confidence that its just not going for waste like so many Kickstarter projects out there.

Dakeru

Zultra said:

You would think the game has failed with some of the haters I have seen, but this blows them away. 

Any kind of criticism seems to be hate to you.

You should get a more professional attitude.

winghaven1

Dakeru said:

Zultra said:

You would think the game has failed with some of the haters I have seen, but this blows them away. 

Any kind of criticism seems to be hate to you.

You should get a more professional attitude.

First sentence is agreeable but then you follow it up with something hateful.

So where is the logic in that?

lunawisp

I decided to back the team on this one. My first Kickstarter actually. If it works out, great...we have a new innovative game. If not, well, it's money I've already written off. I don't think you should view Kickstarter as an investment so much as a gamble and you should never gamble with money you can't afford to lose.

Having said that...go team - I'm rooting for you

Zephlykk

I can see why people would be skeptical about the success chance of this game. After all in the gaming world, 900k isn't that much money. But on another note, Caspian has invested 500k of his own money. Not only that but he has said that if the game gets funded on Kickstarter, that will open doors so that he can start talking to investors. So I am willing to bet that this game will have a fair amount more than $1 million invested in it by the time it launches. The ideas alone that they are producing, and the hype behind them, are enough to start making some waves in the gaming community. Even if the game isn't a massive success, it could help push the genre in a different direction and force other gaming companies to consider implementing some of their ideas. I couldn't be more excited to support their ideas, even if that means taking a risk that my monetary investment wont be returned immediately upon launch. Their ideas are good for the gaming community, and worthy of the support.

Dakeru

winghaven1 said:

Dakeru said:

Zultra said:

You would think the game has failed with some of the haters I have seen, but this blows them away. 

Any kind of criticism seems to be hate to you.

You should get a more professional attitude.

First sentence is agreeable but then you follow it up with something hateful.

So where is the logic in that?

In all fairness.. he is still 10 times more professional than renfail though.

Octagon7711

Zephlykk said:

I can see why people would be skeptical about the success chance of this game. After all in the gaming world, 900k isn't that much money. But on another note, Caspian has invested 500k of his own money. Not only that but he has said that if the game gets funded on Kickstarter, that will open doors so that he can start talking to investors. So I am willing to bet that this game will have a fair amount more than $1 million invested in it by the time it launches. The ideas alone that they are producing, and the hype behind them, are enough to start making some waves in the gaming community. Even if the game isn't a massive success, it could help push the genre in a different direction and force other gaming companies to consider implementing some of their ideas. I couldn't be more excited to support their ideas, even if that means taking a risk that my monetary investment wont be returned immediately upon launch. Their ideas are good for the gaming community, and worthy of the support.

Talking to investors who might want to have a say on the games development could lead to a totally different game.  Investors want to see a nice return on their money and tend to be very conservative and want to go with what already works rather then blazing new trails.

Zephlykk

Octagon7711 said:

Zephlykk said:

I can see why people would be skeptical about the success chance of this game. After all in the gaming world, 900k isn't that much money. But on another note, Caspian has invested 500k of his own money. Not only that but he has said that if the game gets funded on Kickstarter, that will open doors so that he can start talking to investors. So I am willing to bet that this game will have a fair amount more than $1 million invested in it by the time it launches. The ideas alone that they are producing, and the hype behind them, are enough to start making some waves in the gaming community. Even if the game isn't a massive success, it could help push the genre in a different direction and force other gaming companies to consider implementing some of their ideas. I couldn't be more excited to support their ideas, even if that means taking a risk that my monetary investment wont be returned immediately upon launch. Their ideas are good for the gaming community, and worthy of the support.

Talking to investors who might want to have a say on the games development could lead to a totally different game.  Investors want to see a nice return on their money and tend to be very conservative and want to go with what already works rather then blazing new trails.

Totally possible. But I would still hold firm in that their ideas are solid enough to warrant the support it needs. The more you show the investors that you are willing to throw money at these ideas, the more likely they will be to back them.

ceratop001

900,000 seems kinda low. I know Caspian put in 500,00 but even that seems really low. What are they doing with this money? I'm guessing based on what most mmorpgs costs that even 10-12 million would be on the cheap to make something like this.. Is the 900k just to make certain aspects of the game?

lunawisp

Maybe galvanising the community and succeeding in their kickstarter will help convince a few investors to back the project further. While it's true to say that investors want a return for their money, a lot of them are entrepreneurs themselves and they know that you have to sometimes take risks in order to succeed.

If nobody ever took a risk, we'd still be eating berries and living in caves.

Joreel

Dakeru said:

winghaven1 said:

Dakeru said:

Zultra said:

You would think the game has failed with some of the haters I have seen, but this blows them away. 

Any kind of criticism seems to be hate to you.

You should get a more professional attitude.

First sentence is agreeable but then you follow it up with something hateful.

So where is the logic in that?

In all fairness.. he is still 10 times more professional than renfail though.

Do do understand the Renfail has nothing to do with this game so bringing him up in a CoE thread is just funny as hell.

Kyleran

ceratop001 said:

900,000 seems kinda low. I know Caspian put in 500,00 but even that seems really low. What are they doing with this money? I'm guessing based on what most mmorpgs costs that even 10-12 million would be on the cheap to make something like this.. Is the 900k just to make certain aspects of the game?

There's the rub, the game as envisioned can't be delivered with any semblance of completeness, so the real question is what is the plan to fund it to the end?

They may be planning on launching with a MVP build, and add to it later, or counting on post KS fund raising from fans, investors, or lottery winnings to flesh it out further.

More info to come in time I'm sure.

lunawisp

There are quite a few people complaining about not being able to pledge because Kickstarter doesn't accept the method of payment they want to use. Soulbound Studios have confirmed that they will be adding additional payment options once the Kickstarter goal has been reached...they obviously don't want people avoiding KS and have it fall short of the goal.
We really haven't a clue how much they're going to end up with from the community and how much more they're going to need from other investors...but then that's a business decision and probably not something they want to share at the moment.

Z[MMOsmart]

Kyleran said:

They may be planning on launching with a MVP build, and add to it later, or counting on post KS fund raising from fans, investors, or lottery winnings to flesh it out further.

So many studios depend on Lotto winnings now days O.o

MrMelGibson

Good for them.  I wish them luck.

rodarin

Like Isaid they are doing the kickstarter to entice investor(s) that they have already talked to and gotten turned down by. This kickstarter was basically a way for them to show something concrete to these guys and may have been a prerequisite for these investors to come on board.

They had about a million already put itno it before the kickstarter the 900K was going ot get them to about 2. What they have claimed they want to do couldnt be done for 100, so they obviously need more money. They can either get investors or start selling stuff, more than likely both.

Anyone that thinks they will have anything playable for the money they have spent and raised so far are pretty naive.

It does look like theyre going to make it, I was pretty skeptical at first but I am glad theyre going to get there now we can see where it goes. I would put the likelihood of an investor other than pledged by kickstarters at about 90%. I would also not doubt they have a publisher also come in which will add another wrench to this whole thing.

This could dtart to get as entertaining as Star Citizen except on a much smaller scale. Although I really think these guys want to make the game theyre xelling and have a semi realistic shot at doing some of it.

Maygus

Octagon7711 said:

Zephlykk said:

I can see why people would be skeptical about the success chance of this game. After all in the gaming world, 900k isn't that much money. But on another note, Caspian has invested 500k of his own money. Not only that but he has said that if the game gets funded on Kickstarter, that will open doors so that he can start talking to investors. So I am willing to bet that this game will have a fair amount more than $1 million invested in it by the time it launches. The ideas alone that they are producing, and the hype behind them, are enough to start making some waves in the gaming community. Even if the game isn't a massive success, it could help push the genre in a different direction and force other gaming companies to consider implementing some of their ideas. I couldn't be more excited to support their ideas, even if that means taking a risk that my monetary investment wont be returned immediately upon launch. Their ideas are good for the gaming community, and worthy of the support.

Talking to investors who might want to have a say on the games development could lead to a totally different game.  Investors want to see a nice return on their money and tend to be very conservative and want to go with what already works rather then blazing new trails.

Investors are not publishers... and they can always have an agreement of 'hands off' for the most part.

Octagon7711

Maygus said:

Octagon7711 said:

Zephlykk said:

I can see why people would be skeptical about the success chance of this game. After all in the gaming world, 900k isn't that much money. But on another note, Caspian has invested 500k of his own money. Not only that but he has said that if the game gets funded on Kickstarter, that will open doors so that he can start talking to investors. So I am willing to bet that this game will have a fair amount more than $1 million invested in it by the time it launches. The ideas alone that they are producing, and the hype behind them, are enough to start making some waves in the gaming community. Even if the game isn't a massive success, it could help push the genre in a different direction and force other gaming companies to consider implementing some of their ideas. I couldn't be more excited to support their ideas, even if that means taking a risk that my monetary investment wont be returned immediately upon launch. Their ideas are good for the gaming community, and worthy of the support.

Talking to investors who might want to have a say on the games development could lead to a totally different game.  Investors want to see a nice return on their money and tend to be very conservative and want to go with what already works rather then blazing new trails.

Investors are not publishers... and they can always have an agreement of 'hands off' for the most part.

Investors can be publishers though.  As to agreements and sticking to their guns.  I don't really know the people who are making this game so I don't know how much integrity they have or how good they are at managing a working game or handling lots of money.  I don't know if someone comes alone, likes what they'er doing and wants to put down say two hundred million on the game but demand some say over how the game is made what they will say.   This is all academic at this point so and just pure opinion, nothing else.  I wish them well and love to see something different in gaming and perhaps this is it, or perhaps not as it's to early to say.

vonryan123

TBH if I hadn't been burned about 3 times already from backing a game on KS I might have backed this.

Distopia

SedrynTyros said:

rodarin said:

Like Isaid they are doing the kickstarter to entice investor(s) that they have already talked to and gotten turned down by. This kickstarter was basically a way for them to show something concrete to these guys and may have been a prerequisite for these investors to come on board.

They had about a million already put itno it before the kickstarter the 900K was going ot get them to about 2. What they have claimed they want to do couldnt be done for 100, so they obviously need more money. They can either get investors or start selling stuff, more than likely both.

Anyone that thinks they will have anything playable for the money they have spent and raised so far are pretty naive.

It does look like theyre going to make it, I was pretty skeptical at first but I am glad theyre going to get there now we can see where it goes. I would put the likelihood of an investor other than pledged by kickstarters at about 90%. I would also not doubt they have a publisher also come in which will add another wrench to this whole thing.

This could dtart to get as entertaining as Star Citizen except on a much smaller scale. Although I really think these guys want to make the game theyre xelling and have a semi realistic shot at doing some of it.

It's interesting to me that just because Star Citizen wants to make 3 or 4 games in one that everyone now assumes you need 100 million dollars to build a MMO based on the Unreal 4 engine, which is essentially a free engine in terms of development.  I think you folks don't know what the fuck you're talking about.  Sure, they still have to develop the server side technology, but to assume they need 100 million to do that is naive in the extreme.

I have to agree, I also think an important distinction is that these guys really aren't trying many things that are seemingly pushing the boundaries of what's possible in a given game engine (like SC is). While they have a lot of systems planned, none of them seem overly ground breaking in terms of R&D..  

Nanfoodle

Distopia said:

SedrynTyros said:

rodarin said:

Like Isaid they are doing the kickstarter to entice investor(s) that they have already talked to and gotten turned down by. This kickstarter was basically a way for them to show something concrete to these guys and may have been a prerequisite for these investors to come on board.

They had about a million already put itno it before the kickstarter the 900K was going ot get them to about 2. What they have claimed they want to do couldnt be done for 100, so they obviously need more money. They can either get investors or start selling stuff, more than likely both.

Anyone that thinks they will have anything playable for the money they have spent and raised so far are pretty naive.

It does look like theyre going to make it, I was pretty skeptical at first but I am glad theyre going to get there now we can see where it goes. I would put the likelihood of an investor other than pledged by kickstarters at about 90%. I would also not doubt they have a publisher also come in which will add another wrench to this whole thing.

This could dtart to get as entertaining as Star Citizen except on a much smaller scale. Although I really think these guys want to make the game theyre xelling and have a semi realistic shot at doing some of it.

It's interesting to me that just because Star Citizen wants to make 3 or 4 games in one that everyone now assumes you need 100 million dollars to build a MMO based on the Unreal 4 engine, which is essentially a free engine in terms of development.  I think you folks don't know what the fuck you're talking about.  Sure, they still have to develop the server side technology, but to assume they need 100 million to do that is naive in the extreme.

I have to agree, I also think an important distinction is that these guys really aren't trying many things that are seemingly pushing the boundaries of what's possible in a given game engine (like SC is). While they have a lot of systems planned, none of them seem overly ground breaking in terms of R&D..  

I think daily dynamic story is a long shot promise. 

RPGMASTERGAMER

it just mean peoples never learn, many of the peoples you call ''hater'' me included would have think after get fooled 1 times peoples would have learn
( many more time actualy, we are still waiting for one finish mmorpg to release on kickstarter... )

but it just prove peoples never learn, if the game dont release with all these features ect... and you want blame someone ? look at yourself....

im still happy this game got the kickstarter goal but the realist of this game to release with the features they promise and the money they got way more small that star citizen.......

well that not with my money !! but will watch, they got amazing dream and idea...

im just not someone who buy dream with no serious evidence behind them.