Star Citizen - Development Updates

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  • gervaise1gervaise1 .Member RarePosts: 4,331
    edited July 2016
    I'm not honestly sure, I assume it refers to the game and the CQC standalone across the 3 platforms they are released on.

    Bear in mind that as they are a publicly traded company they cannot play fast and loose with definitions in an attempt to pump their product as being more successful than it really is, especially in trading updates. That would be classed fraudulent behaviour.
    As you say they cannot play fast and loose but its such an odd phrase imo - and (sadly) you (should) get used to not assuming what is not said by Activision Blizzard, EA etc. What is said and no more.

    For if it is 1.5M copies of "the game" sold that is huge and should be shouted from roof tops. I'm not so sure it is though. (By all accounts ED is doing OK though).

    Edit: Based on what Babuinix says below though it looks like it is "stuff in general" rather than copies  of the game.
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    ED is dying. from 20k player base their on 4k now, their all time low, Powerplay was a bust, so was Engineers, Horizons a shadow of could have been. ED was rushed into release because the funding was low, they cut the offline mode to mitigate losses in sales by preventing "piracy". They are now reaping the "benefits" of releasing so early, a premature death and loss of confidence by their player base. This is without any space game to compete against lol. Imagine when true competition comes into play? They will be obliterated. In Peace may rest their commanders soul. 
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    edited July 2016
    Babuinix said:
    ED is dying.
    I would not call it dying.

    http://steamcharts.com/app/359320

    Elite:Dangerous Steam stats. Keep in mind that many also play E:D from the Frontier launcher (not Steam).

    Compare this with the recent SC Alpha numbers ... 300k backers clocked 1.5 million Alpha gameplay testing hours since December 2015. (link -  see my other thread).


    Have fun 

    Post edited by Erillion on
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    Ed is indeed dying, if you take statistics you get the large number possible and compare it troughout the years, that's how they showcase politics popularity.  Their all time peak was almost 19k, they are now down to 5k. That's a  huge decrease. Check horizons, NOBODY that bought it in team plays it, it sits at 0 players for months now. And this is without any competition whatsoever, imagine when NMS, Star Citizen and the other space games go into play? Not looking good.
  • laxielaxie UK - Leamington SpaMember RarePosts: 800
    Erillion said:
    Babuinix said:
    ED is dying.
    I would not call it dying.

    http://steamcharts.com/app/359320

    Elite:Dangerous Steam stats. Keep in mind that many also play E:D from the Frontier launcher (not Steam).

    Compare this with the recent SC Alpha numbers ... 300k backers clocked 1.5 million Alpha gameplay testing hours since December 2015. (link -  see my other thread).


    Have fun 

    1.5 million hours seems like a lot.

    But if a game has 5.000 concurrent users (all day long) for 6 months, it generates 21 million hours.
    Not making any statements, just interesting to put it in perspective.
  • KefoKefo London, ONMember EpicPosts: 3,014
    Erillion said:
    Babuinix said:
    ED is dying.
    I would not call it dying.

    http://steamcharts.com/app/359320

    Elite:Dangerous Steam stats. Keep in mind that many also play E:D from the Frontier launcher (not Steam).

    Compare this with the recent SC Alpha numbers ... 300k backers clocked 1.5 million Alpha gameplay testing hours since December 2015. (link -  see my other thread).


    Have fun 

    Anyone else find it funny Erillion trying to reason with a super fan of SC? 
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    edited July 2016
    Babuinix said:
    Ed is indeed dying, if you take statistics you get the large number possible and compare it troughout the years, that's how they showcase politics popularity.  Their all time peak was almost 19k, they are now down to 5k. That's a  huge decrease. Check horizons, NOBODY that bought it in team plays it, it sits at 0 players for months now. And this is without any competition whatsoever, imagine when NMS, Star Citizen and the other space games go into play? Not looking good.

    Clearly you don't realise that atleast half of Elite's playerbase bought through Frontier's store and therefore won't be tracked by Steam and that was before the game even appeared on XBox which also wouldn't be tracked by Steam.

    The concurrency has definitely dropped but that is typical with online games. Hell, most MMOs talk about losing 70% after the first month iirc.
    Horizons stats are obviously merged to the main game, best to not lie about things here and lose the minimal remaining credibility you have.

    Steamspy says ~750,000 sales via steam with ~75,000 unique players in the last 2 weeks and a peak steam concurrency of 4500 so far today. Perhaps numbers are down slightly due to it being an important holiday weekend in the US as well..

    Compare that to EVE Online, 315,000 sales, 13,000 unique players last 2 weeks and a concurrency of 1200 players so far today.

    I'd say Elite is doing ok for itself.
    Post edited by rpmcmurphy on
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    Kefo said:
    Anyone else find it funny Erillion trying to reason with a super fan of SC? 
    We are exchanging ... you know .. FACTS.   Verifyable facts.

    Makes for a nice change in this subforum for once, does it not ?


    Have fun
  • KefoKefo London, ONMember EpicPosts: 3,014
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    Anyone else find it funny Erillion trying to reason with a super fan of SC? 
    We are exchanging ... you know .. FACTS.   Verifyable facts.

    Makes for a nice change in this subforum for once, does it not ?


    Have fun
    It is nice but the person you are telling the facts to is just putting forth their opinion with a very clear bias
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    edited July 2016
    Kefo said:
    It is nice but the person you are telling the facts to is just putting forth their opinion with a very clear bias
    That is why I am linking some facts about E:D.


    Have fun
    Post edited by Erillion on
  • KefoKefo London, ONMember EpicPosts: 3,014
    Erillion said:
    Kefo said:
    It is nice but the person you are telling the facts to is just putting forth their opinion with a very clear bias
    That is why I am linking some facts about E:D.


    Have fun
    I feel like this convo is about to enter a circular line of thinking
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    Kefo said:
    I feel like this convo is about to enter a circular line of thinking
    I often feel like that in this subforum for the last 2 years.


    Have fun
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    I'd say Elite is doing ok for itself.
    Yeah boy!


  • gir243gir243 Member UncommonPosts: 45
    Babuinix said:
    I'd say Elite is doing ok for itself.
    Yeah boy!



    Man this dude is on a roll today.  Are you sure you hit every SC thread yet?  Maybe you missed one.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshMember RarePosts: 6,340
    gir243 said:
    Babuinix said:
    I'd say Elite is doing ok for itself.
    Yeah boy!



    Man this dude is on a roll today.  Are you sure you hit every SC thread yet?  Maybe you missed one.
    He's also putting up false bull.

    http://steamcharts.com/app/359320

    It's doing fine.
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    It's not fake: http://steamcharts.com/app/419270

    1 million units sold , 3k average players. Steam's 81th Place on most played games.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshMember RarePosts: 6,340
    edited July 2016
    That might be relevant if steam was the primary vendor. 
    Post edited by BeansnBread on
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    It's just one way of analysing (a big chunk) of numbers, retention is low. No denying in that. Also, after the biggest update numbers stalled and went under. The trend of a dying game, if it wasn't for it's P2P system it would have gone Free2Play by now.
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread PshMember RarePosts: 6,340
    It looks like retention is steady to me and actually had a recent uptick. However, I really don't care about ED numbers at all. Your posting of April at zero was just stupid, so I pointed that out.
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    I found it funny and insightful to the general discussion.
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    edited July 2016
    Babuinix said:
    I found it funny and insightful to the general discussion.

    So telling lies and using false information is insightful to the general discussion?
    Come on man, get your head out of your arse.

    You do realise that when you have to lie and attempt to tear down other games to make your own look good you have lost your argument, it only reeks of desperation.

    Have fun
    Post edited by rpmcmurphy on
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    What lies mate? It's right there in the web site. Follow the link.
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    Lies because that is tracking the old product layout which was discontinued months ago.

    Everything is now sold via one main page on Steam rather than separate pages for each expansion. You can verify this by searching for Elite in Steam's search box. there is just the one result and doing a search for Horizons doesn't return any results.
  • lahnmirlahnmir UtrechtMember RarePosts: 891
    Babuinix said:
    I found it funny and insightful to the general discussion.
    I don't know if SC will be successful or will fail horribly. You idiotic defenders don't know and the people badmouthing the game don't know either.

    HOWEVER, if this game turns out to be vapor ware or a horrible flop I want a photo of your reaction, it can not be anything else then a total meltdown or emo girl crying party, a photo or little movie of you crying your heart out. Because really, this game seems to be your life and your posts and reactions don't convince people to buy the game or believe the hype, they do the exact opposite.

    Me? I want the game to succeed because the genre can use a game like this. I would like all the white knighting idiots to stay away though, those making the game look bad because of their zealous behavior while tearing down everything else. Grow up.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 

  • ShodanasShodanas PatrasMember RarePosts: 1,815
    That might be relevant if steam was the primary vendor. 
    1) steam is the primary vendor

    2) you linked steamcharts as well, commenting "it's doing fine". Did you not ? I presume an average of 3.7K players per month since January qualifies as "fine" with you.

    3) before you accuse me as being negative biased i'll inform you that i was a backer with a hefty sum and still an active player.
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