Star Citizen - Development Updates

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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    syltmacka said:
    so much text from you guys, its gonna flop though
    Per definition it has not flopped because the company already HAS the money. 117 M$.


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  • jcrg99jcrg99 Toronto, ONMember UncommonPosts: 723
    Erillion said:
    syltmacka said:
    so much text from you guys, its gonna flop though
    Per definition it has not flopped because the company already HAS the money. 117 M$.


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    You mean Chris Roberts and major associates are not going to flop. But these guys earning more money does not mean that the company or the project will stay or will succeed.
    I agree with the guy. Star Citizen and CIG are gonna flop. But Roberts and major associates, by definition, didn't. They made more money with this flop than any successful game that they could realize with their capacities.
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    The game alredy won, it has a bigger fan-base than any other space game and as made more money without even releasing. It's the defenition of a success game development story.
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    edited July 2016
    Oh come on, this sucky sucky behaviour is ridiculous. They have sold just over 1 million ships, probably indicative of 650,000 - 800,000 backers.

    Elite has sold well over 1,500,000 copies at last count.

    EVE, a 13 year old game, has a solid 450,000+ subscriber base paying $6,750,000 a month or $81,000,000 a year. How do CIG compare?

    Perhaps you'd like to review the facts and tell everybody again who has the "bigger fan base".
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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    Elite has sold well over 1,500,000 copies at last count. 

    --> Source please. Frontier yearly report for stock exchange gives a much smaller number.

    --> Have fun 
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    edited July 2016
    Erillion said:
    Elite has sold well over 1,500,000 copies at last count. 

    --> Source please. Frontier yearly report for stock exchange gives a much smaller number.

    --> Have fun 

    No it doesn't, see the trading update as of 27 April this year:

    Total unit sales of Elite:Dangerous franchise products now exceeds 1.5 million, in line with the Board's expectations given the point in the release cycle.

    http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-markets/stocks/exchange-insight/company-news.html?fourWayKey=GB00BBT32N39GBGBXASQ1

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Chicago, ILMember EpicPosts: 5,714
    Babuinix said:
    The game alredy won, it has a bigger fan-base than any other space game and as made more money without even releasing. It's the defenition of a success game development story.

    "Change is the only constant."

  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    Should do a timelapse from a little girl to the woman today.
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    Erillion said:
    Elite has sold well over 1,500,000 copies at last count. 

    --> Source please. Frontier yearly report for stock exchange gives a much smaller number.

    --> Have fun 

    No it doesn't, stop making shit up.

    Trading update as of 27 April this year:

    Total unit sales of Elite:Dangerous franchise products now exceeds 1.5 million, in line with the Board's expectations given the point in the release cycle.

    http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-markets/stocks/exchange-insight/company-news.html?fourWayKey=GB00BBT32N39GBGBXASQ1

    Thank you for the source for the new number. 

    >>> Stop making shit up >>>
    Well, my source was the most recent yearly report that is downloadable from the official Frontier Developments homepage:

    http://www.frontier.co.uk/docs/files/Frontier Developments Annual Report 2015.pdf

    If you consider that "shit" ... weeeeelllll ..... 


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  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    edited July 2016
    A report from over 9 months ago. Not so relevant when we're talking about current numbers in a fast market.

    Edit: My reaction to your comment was too harsh Erillion, I apologise for that and will edit my to post to reflect.

    When I see people (this is not referring to you) taking something and blowing it up beyond all rationality and reasonability it starts pissing me off because one of the main tenets for this game was to get away from the lies and hype that is prevalent in the industry.
    I'm sure everybody would much prefer to deal with facts and let the game(s) speak for themselves.
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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    edited July 2016
    A report from over 9 months ago. Hardly relevant when we're talking about current numbers in a fast market.
    That is why I asked politely ("..please..") for a source for your information.


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    PS:
    High number of sold copies of E:D is GOOD NEWS for me. I have been an Elite fan ever since 1984 and of course play E:D myself.
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  • gervaise1gervaise1 .Member RarePosts: 4,329
    edited July 2016
    Question:

    "Total unit sales of Elite:Dangerous franchise products now exceeds 1.5 million, in line with the Board's expectations given the point in the release cycle."

    What is a franchise product?

    I suspect it is not the same as a copy of the game. Is it a count of game copies + ships + whatever else? Curious. 

     (I have nothing against ED btw and wish it - and other games well - but it seems a vague term.)
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  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    edited July 2016
    I'm not honestly sure, I assume it refers to the game and the CQC standalone across the 3 platforms they are released on.

    Bear in mind that as they are a publicly traded company they cannot play fast and loose with definitions in an attempt to pump their product as being more successful than it really is, especially in trading updates. That would be classed fraudulent behaviour.
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  • jcrg99jcrg99 Toronto, ONMember UncommonPosts: 723
    edited July 2016
    Bear in mind that as they are a publicly traded company they cannot play fast and loose with definitions in an attempt to pump their product as being more successful than it really is.
    You described CIG here.
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    Star Citizen is the defenition of a successful crowdfunded project because it got all the money needed to get the thing going, and some more B)
  • KefoKefo London, ONMember EpicPosts: 3,014
    Babuinix said:
    Star Citizen is the defenition of a successful crowdfunded project because it got all the money needed to get the thing going, and some more B)
    I can agree with that statement but having a successful crowdfunding campaign behind you doesn't mean you are in any way, shape or form competent to finish the game.
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    edited July 2016
    Well I'm certainly not competent in any shape or form to finish a game. But the hundreds of game developers working on the project certainly are. Between them they have delivered more than 100 multi-award winning games that sold millions and millions of copies. That's were the trust goes, not armchair devs or washed up devs for that matter.



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  • KefoKefo London, ONMember EpicPosts: 3,014
    Babuinix said:
    Well I'm certainly not competent in any shape or form to finish a game. But the hundreds of game developers working on the project certainly are. Between them they have delivered more than 100 multi-award winning games that sold millions and millions of copies. That's were the trust goes, not armchair devs or washed up devs for that matter.



    It's funny you mention washed up devs and then link a video with Chris Roberts in it
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    Yeap amazing how Legendary Game Developers can raise such a following with their visionary games. Talent is a bliss.
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    edited July 2016
    Babuinix said:
    Yeap amazing how Legendary Game Developers can raise such a following with their visionary games. Ignorance is bliss.
    FTFY
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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    edited July 2016
    You misspelt talent, it should be i-g-n-o-r-a-n-c-e
    Wrong again.

    Its spelled H-A-L-L-O-F-F-A-M-E-D-E-V-E-L-O-P-E-R-S

    There are not many developers that get a Lifetime Achievement Award at GDC (Game Designers Conference) from their peers. 


    Have fun
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  • KefoKefo London, ONMember EpicPosts: 3,014
    Erillion said:
    You misspelt talent, it should be i-g-n-o-r-a-n-c-e
    Wrong again.

    Its spelled H-A-L-L-O-F-F-A-M-E-D-E-V-E-L-O-P-E-R-S

    There are not many developers that get a Lifetime Achievement Award at GDC (Game Designers Conference) from their peers. 


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    Why are we mentioned the Lifetime Achievement awards again in a SC thread?
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy DublinMember RarePosts: 2,506
    edited July 2016
    Erillion said:
    You misspelt talent, it should be i-g-n-o-r-a-n-c-e
    Wrong again.
    Its spelled H-A-L-L-O-F-F-A-M-E-D-E-V-E-L-O-P-E-R-S
    There are not many developers that get a Lifetime Achievement Award at GDC (Game Designers Conference) from their peers. 

    Have fun

    Wrong again? Really?

    Anyhow, who exactly are you talking about here? I see Braben and Elite mention in those awards but no mention of Roberts or his Wing Commander games... :D

    When I said ignorance I was referring to people believing that just having a bunch of names involved in your project implies a better quality game. It doesn't, just as having a movie with well known actors does not equal a better quality movie.
    It all depends on management, directing, the script etc.
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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,956
    edited July 2016
    According to his Twitter account Mark Hamill is back shooting performance capture scenes for Squadron 42. And he is not resting much it seems ;-)

    https://twitter.com/hamillhimself

    "Such jobs stress-Back 2 work on #StarCitizenSquadron42 today w/out a day off Someone has to guard the universe!#Whew"


    https://twitter.com/hashtag/StarCitizenSquadron42?src=hash



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  • KefoKefo London, ONMember EpicPosts: 3,014
    Erillion said:
    According to his Twitter account Mark Hamill is back shooting performance capture scenes for Squadron 42. And he is not resting much it seems ;-)

    https://twitter.com/hamillhimself

    "Such jobs stress-Back 2 work on #StarCitizenSquadron42 today w/out a day off Someone has to guard the universe!#Whew"


    https://twitter.com/hashtag/StarCitizenSquadron42?src=hash



    Have fun



    I thought they were done all the mo-cap already. They redoing it all again?
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