The most beautiful game ever !

KeridwenKeridwen BrightonMember UncommonPosts: 58
As a veteran MMO player and after spending the last few days in CBT 1 I can say unequivocally that Black Desert is the most beautiful game ever. The aesthetics and graphics are sensational, giving the highest level of immersion I have yet to experience. For instance, clothes and horses are soaked in rain, giving a special effect. I know games need to be more than pretty to look at it but Black Desert combines beauty with technical sophistication and great support from devs and GM's.


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  • Soki123Soki123 Kelowna, BCMember RarePosts: 2,316
    Nice looking yes, other then that it s lousy IMO.
  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKMember LegendaryPosts: 16,976
    edited December 2015
    As far as high end graphics go it's pretty good - there are some missteps like they took time to do "wet armor look" when it rains but hair stays dry and curly no matter what heh.

    Also no collision detection for NPCs is an immersion killer for me, again the characters look fantastic but they are air :/

    Finally low res textures for many of the ground textures is a not so great. 

    None of these things would bother me in lower graphics game like WoW but when it comes to higher end graphics I start to pay attention to all the details. 

    Post edited by DMKano on
  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Long Island, NYMember RarePosts: 1,053
    No collision detection......wha-what?

    Now we have to deal with the leet Bunny-Hop PvP maneuver......ugh.

    I'll pass.


  • AkisDarkfoldAkisDarkfold Member UncommonPosts: 16
    its not very bad the size also feels nice the world has small stories and the concept somehow reminds a nice mix of gw2 elements and tera (thats how I could describe it)
  • SulaaSulaa nMember UncommonPosts: 1,329
    There are plenty of better looking games in non-MMO sphere.  So no, not best looking game ever.


    Anyway - while BDO have some really good graphics it has at same time some preety bad graphics as well especially visible by contrast.

    That ones include - some awful combat animations that have way way too small number of frames, and thus are choppy and covered by flashy explosions.

    Similarly - game has preety nice consistant style and graphics of scenery and exteriors and then it punches you right in the face with totally not-consitant out of place things, especially on characters but also on NPC side of things.

    Low res textures or flat spaces and textures,  short view distance, etc

    It is not all roses, there is plenty of low quality things, which are especially visible because of a contrast with more high quality parts of the game.
  • AlleinAllein Member RarePosts: 2,056
    DMKano said:
    Also no collision detection for NPCs is an immersion killer for me, again the characters look fantastic but they are air :/
    Not sure how it is on other versions, but KR monsters have full collision as I frequently am riding along on my horse and stop dead due to not noticing a small lizard in the grass.

    NPC merchants and what not have semi-collision where if I'm running along and run into them, I pass by but both characters flinch and semi slow down.
  • KappadonnaKappadonna Parts UnknownMember UncommonPosts: 83
    It's not just the graphics that are nice, but the User Interface. Playing the game just from the aspect of trying it is refreshing because it feels like no other MMORPG on the market, and more like a single player open world game (ala Witcher 3). 

    I've enjoyed the game simply for those reasons. I'm on the Korean servers, so language is a barrier even with the english patch, but I'm having more fun on this than in MMORPGs of the past, including the anticipated Bless (which feels old, archaic, and like FFXIV to a T handling wise). 

    Plus BDO is well optimized. They have a very good engine.
  • AvanahAvanah Member UncommonPosts: 1,295
    Keridwen said:
    As a veteran MMO player and after spending the last few days in CBT 1 I can say unequivocally that Black Desert is the most beautiful game ever. The aesthetics and graphics are sensational, giving the highest level of immersion I have yet to experience. For instance, clothes and horses are soaked in rain, giving a special effect. I know games need to be more than pretty to look at it but Black Desert combines beauty with technical sophistication and great support from devs and GM's.


    As an also LONG time veteran of Computer games, I learned from my own experience that the BEST games, specifically MMOS, were those with LESS visual satisfaction.
    Gameplay/Content/Execution trumps anything else to me, when it comes to immersion.

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  • IKShadowIKShadow LjubljanaMember UncommonPosts: 782
    edited January 2016
    Allein said:
    DMKano said:
    Also no collision detection for NPCs is an immersion killer for me, again the characters look fantastic but they are air :/
    Not sure how it is on other versions, but KR monsters have full collision as I frequently am riding along on my horse and stop dead due to not noticing a small lizard in the grass.

    NPC merchants and what not have semi-collision where if I'm running along and run into them, I pass by but both characters flinch and semi slow down.
    Its SMART collision system eg when you are in fight there is full collision if you are in city you can pass trough friendlies so no "retarderdnes" like in other games where players are fully blocking passages and NPC's with mounts etc..

    p.s. If you are looking for competitive EU guild eg no carebears be PvP focused check http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/118-futilez-do-you-have-what-it-takes
    Post edited by IKShadow on

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid GinnungagapMember EpicPosts: 8,739
    IKShadow said:
    Allein said:
    DMKano said:
    Also no collision detection for NPCs is an immersion killer for me, again the characters look fantastic but they are air :/
    Not sure how it is on other versions, but KR monsters have full collision as I frequently am riding along on my horse and stop dead due to not noticing a small lizard in the grass.

    NPC merchants and what not have semi-collision where if I'm running along and run into them, I pass by but both characters flinch and semi slow down.
    Its SMART collision system eg when you are in fight there is full collision if you are in city you can pass trough friendlies so no "retarderdnes" like in other games where players are fully blocking passages and NPC's with mounts etc..

    p.s. If you are looking for competitive EU guild eg no carebears be PvP focused check http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/118-futilez-do-you-have-what-it-takes
    i like that smart anti trolling collision. I hope the NA version is like that.

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  • IKShadowIKShadow LjubljanaMember UncommonPosts: 782
    IKShadow said:
    Allein said:
    DMKano said:
    Also no collision detection for NPCs is an immersion killer for me, again the characters look fantastic but they are air :/
    Not sure how it is on other versions, but KR monsters have full collision as I frequently am riding along on my horse and stop dead due to not noticing a small lizard in the grass.

    NPC merchants and what not have semi-collision where if I'm running along and run into them, I pass by but both characters flinch and semi slow down.
    Its SMART collision system eg when you are in fight there is full collision if you are in city you can pass trough friendlies so no "retarderdnes" like in other games where players are fully blocking passages and NPC's with mounts etc..

    p.s. If you are looking for competitive EU guild eg no carebears be PvP focused check http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/118-futilez-do-you-have-what-it-takes
    i like that smart anti trolling collision. I hope the NA version is like that.
    Its core game mechanics, works the same on KR, JP & RU servers.

    Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 7,821
    Its the best looking game out. 

    /agree
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairMember EpicPosts: 7,883
    This game is going to kick so many fans in the teeth.


  • borghive49borghive49 Pittsburgh, PAMember RarePosts: 327
    This game is going to kick so many fans in the teeth.


    Explain. 
  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    This game is going to kick so many fans in the teeth.


    Explain. 
    Read his sig...

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  • borghive49borghive49 Pittsburgh, PAMember RarePosts: 327
    Pepeq said:
    This game is going to kick so many fans in the teeth.


    Explain. 
    Read his sig...

    "NOTE: The above post is an attempt a humor. Please do not take seriously."
    hah missed that

  • TokkenTokken Portland, ORMember UncommonPosts: 1,565
    For me, Bless Online is the most beautiful.  Can't wait for it to come out!
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairMember EpicPosts: 7,883
    edited February 2016
    This game is going to kick so many fans in the teeth.


    Explain. 
    Players are hearing and seeing only what they want. Too many people are setting expectations just a little too high. That's all. There are threads all over the web complaining about how it is in it's other markets (I googled it) and how the publisher isn't really listening to the players but just forges on with what ever makes the most $$$. Someone in another thread stated that the EU/NA version will have a +15 cap on enchanting. I did actually google that and didn't find any evidence of that anywhere.  What I am seeing is a publisher being obviously vague about the cash shop and where they say absolutely nothing on an issue, people have interpreted that to mean it won't be in the game. But I did read the Q&A where the publisher addressed specific P2W questions by skating around them. Where the publisher specfically stated there won't be any reselling of cash shop items during the launch phase, someone posted here, That it won't be there at launch. There is a big difference between something no being implemented at launch vs not being implemented during the launch phase. It seems there will be P2W at least at some level. Will it be bad? Probably not at 1st, but I don't think it will take very long.

    Once the profits from Box sales begin to drop, I'm betting that's when the kick in the teeth is coming.

    But hey, that's only a guess. It's not like there was ever any kind of precedence for online games like this before.
    Post edited by GeezerGamer on
  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    Once the profits from Box sales begin to drop, I'm betting that's when the kick in the teeth is coming.

    But hey, that's only a guess. It's not like there was ever any kind of precedence for online games like this before.
    It's pretty much an absolute certainty the game will switch to free to play once the initial sales are over with.  They make all their money off the cash shop in Korea now... mostly cosmetic items but huge sellers in the east.  I guess they really like playing dress up over there.
  • spidiispidii Bozeman, MTMember UncommonPosts: 117
    Graphics and art directions are great aside from the cluttered UI that blocks it. But unfortunately, at least for me, that's all it is, pretty but hollow.
  • blueturtle13blueturtle13 Valve Corporation Member LegendaryPosts: 9,758
    I think Moonlight Blade is a more beautiful game. All opinion.

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  • esc-joconnoresc-joconnor TokyoMember UncommonPosts: 499
    Wet clothes huh. Spiffy! If you have a horse, do you leave it somewhere, or does it inflate out of your butt like most other games?
  • stayontargetstayontarget Tacoma, WAMember UncommonPosts: 6,446
    Wet clothes huh. Spiffy! If you have a horse, do you leave it somewhere, or does it inflate out of your butt like most other games?
    You have to park it, or as you say "leave it somewhere".

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  • esc-joconnoresc-joconnor TokyoMember UncommonPosts: 499
    Wet clothes huh. Spiffy! If you have a horse, do you leave it somewhere, or does it inflate out of your butt like most other games?
    You have to park it, or as you say "leave it somewhere".
    Then I do applaud that! 
  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,733
    This game is going to kick so many fans in the teeth.


    Explain. 
    Players are hearing and seeing only what they want. Too many people are setting expectations just a little too high. That's all. There are threads all over the web complaining about how it is in it's other markets (I googled it) and how the publisher isn't really listening to the players but just forges on with what ever makes the most $$$. Someone in another thread stated that the EU/NA version will have a +15 cap on enchanting. I did actually google that and didn't find any evidence of that anywhere.  What I am seeing is a publisher being obviously vague about the cash shop and where they say absolutely nothing on an issue, people have interpreted that to mean it won't be in the game. But I did read the Q&A where the publisher addressed specific P2W questions by skating around them. Where the publisher specfically stated there won't be any reselling of cash shop items during the launch phase, someone posted here, That it won't be there at launch. There is a big difference between something no being implemented at launch vs not being implemented during the launch phase. It seems there will be P2W at least at some level. Will it be bad? Probably not at 1st, but I don't think it will take very long.

    Once the profits from Box sales begin to drop, I'm betting that's when the kick in the teeth is coming.

    But hey, that's only a guess. It's not like there was ever any kind of precedence for online games like this before.
    "Players are hearing and seeing only what they want"

    It goes both ways.

    For example, you cite the dev's statement that you can't cash shop items in the marketplace during the launch phase, although that may change in the future as a red flag.

    Personally I prefer they be honest and upfront that changes may happen.

    If they really wanted to dupe everyone and this whole B2P thing is a big charade for the real f2p purpose for the game, they wouldn't say anything about things possibly changing in the future.
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