Star Citizen Crowdfunding Milestones Discussion

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  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 806
    edited September 13
    Hopefully at this rate SC will launch within a year.  Then we can all celebrate!  :)
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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Figueira da FozMember EpicPosts: 4,119
    TalulaRose said:
      According the CR SC is in early access. Alpha is done, skipped beta and strait to early access. What you see is what you get, its basically basic. You can pay for the rest later.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_access

    "Early access, early funding, alpha-access or paid-alpha is a funding model in the computer game industry by which consumers can pay for a game in the early stages of development and obtain access to the unfinished game."

    Your version: Early Access means a stage that comes after alpha, beta and is the released game.

    SC 3.0 stated early access stands the game under the Alpha stage of development, not a released game.
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  • VorpalChicken28VorpalChicken28 UKMember UncommonPosts: 338
    Only issue I can see happening is alot of people do think that early access generally means a game is very close to release.

    You only have to read the comments on some games that have dragged out early access for 6 months or more (some have been measured in years) to see that people were expecting a fairly imminent release.

    The game in it's current release form (personally I'd say it's pre alpha to alpha atm) looks ok, but plays badly, the jesus patch aka the much delayed v3.0 might address alot of those issues and make it more attractive, and touting it as early access before v3.0 is released could damage people's opinions.

    Whats becoming increasing self evident is that CIG needs money, possibly lots of money in order to finish Star Citizen and Squadron 42. We've all seen the crazy estimates of the cash burn that CIG is doing, even being conservative about the numbers they will be spending alot of money to maintain development across all their studios.

    There's no magic bullet thats going to make the game come out any sooner, personally I'd just like them to double down, quit with trying to milk people of more cash and just get the game finished, they have had more than enough money already to do this.
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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Figueira da FozMember EpicPosts: 4,119
    edited September 13
    Only issue I can see happening is alot of people do think that early access generally means a game is very close to release.

    You only have to read the comments on some games that have dragged out early access for 6 months or more (some have been measured in years) to see that people were expecting a fairly imminent release.
    End of day nothing changes, early access can be both a 2 weeks beta before the release or an alpha still years from release.

    Meant as 3.0 makes SC reach a stage in development that people would often call early access, where a proper game loop starts to exist. Your pre-alpha to alpha analogy would be quite correct in this case.
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  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Long Island, NYMember RarePosts: 985
    edited September 13
    MaxBacon said:
    Only issue I can see happening is alot of people do think that early access generally means a game is very close to release.

    You only have to read the comments on some games that have dragged out early access for 6 months or more (some have been measured in years) to see that people were expecting a fairly imminent release.
    End of day nothing changes, early access can be both a 2 weeks beta before the release or an alpha still years from release.

    Meant as 3.0 makes SC reach a stage in development that people would often call early access, where a proper game loop starts to exist. Your pre-alpha to alpha analogy would be quite correct in this case.
    Early access means the game is pretty much ready to go for retail.

    Unless you are trying to redefine what that means so you can ship an unfinished product. Which is what is happening in the MMORPG industry for the last few years. (now you have testing, and early access to test the game that they sell you.......really defending this.)

    Not gonna get into this redefining of words the many SC apologists like to do.

    As per the man himself....SC is basically done, its basically basic. Everything else will happen later....maybe.....I believe he made reference to expansions, you know the thing that released games do after launch.

    Let us not forget this.......

    released he says:

    "And, we’ll have what we determine is a minimum viable product feature list for what you would call Star Citizen the commercial release which is basically when you say, “Okay, we’ve gotten to this point and we’ve still got plans to add a lot more cool stuff and more content and more functionality and more features…”



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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Figueira da FozMember EpicPosts: 4,119
    edited September 13
    Early access means the game is pretty much ready to go for retail.

    Not gonna get into this redefining of words the many SC apologists like to do.
    What the hell are you on about?

    I don't have to redefine what early access means, it's plainly visible on early access games all over, they go from betas weeks away from a release, to alphas years away from a release.

    It's not implicative of how close to release and how finished a game is. SC stands its alpha development phase with the mentioned early access on 3.0, not a released game. Unlike your baseless statement that the game is skipping alpha and beta....
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  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Long Island, NYMember RarePosts: 985
    MaxBacon said:
    Early access means the game is pretty much ready to go for retail.

    Not gonna get into this redefining of words the many SC apologists like to do.
    What the hell are you on about?

    I don't have to redefine what early access means, it's plainly visible on early access games all over, they go from betas weeks away from a release, to alphas years away from a release.

    It's not implicative of how close to release and how finished a game is. SC stands its alpha development stage with stated early access on 3.0, not a released game. Unlike your baseless statement that the game is skipping alpha and beta....
    Anytime I have bought a game in early access I was playing the launched finished product in a week.

    Sorry but my real life experience tells me what you are saying is least viably true.
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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Figueira da FozMember EpicPosts: 4,119
    edited September 13
    Anytime I have bought a game in early access I was playing the launched finished product in a week.

    Sorry but my real life experience tells me what you are saying is least viably true.
    Now that's something I never thought I would hear.

    I think you are confusing the early access talked here for something else, like head starts and beta tests games like MMO's do very shortly before release. I don't see other reason for you to consider early access to be beyond the alpha and beta stage of a game.

    In proper Early Access, you'll see more often years than months/weeks, cases like Don't Starve, a game that took from 2012 to 2016 in early access until it launched; Prison Architect 2013 to 2015; Unturned 2014 to 2017; Minecraft itself; Subnautica 2014 planned to release this year; this is the early access we're talking about on SC, under alpha, not the beta test imminent release type.
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    Early access is an almost finished game.

    Now that's something you dont  read everyday
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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,984
    edited September 13
    Anytime I have bought a game in early access I was playing the launched finished product in a week.

    Sorry but my real life experience tells me what you are saying is least viably true.
    Yes, THAT definition of early access may be true for the games YOU bought. For YOUR personal real life experience it may be true.

    BUT there are other games, games that you have NOT bought. Some of those games have spent YEARS in Early Access.

    As you can see, different people mean different things when they speak about Early Access. It does NOT necessarily mean that in general people will play a finished product within a week.


    Have fun


    PS:
    It sounds to me like you have mostly played pre-release late-stage Beta tests, maybe even without final server wipe before the game itself officially launched.

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  • RingLdr77RingLdr77 Member CommonPosts: 8
    What is this 'done in a week' non-sense? Early access is anything from 3 months to 3 years from being done.
    JamesGoblin
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Chicago, ILMember EpicPosts: 5,747
    Sounds like he's talking about pre-launch early access.

    "Change is the only constant."

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHMember RarePosts: 3,672
    Early access doesn't mean much on it's own.  It's used by many devs to make money but also avoid reviews for VERY long periods of time.
    JamesGoblin
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member RarePosts: 681
    eLe Funding Still Going Strong.




    160$Millions   ;)
    JamesGoblin
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,984
    Star Citizen backers have passed  the 160 million dollar mark.  (160,328,654 $).

    Number of "Star Citizens" is currently at          1,884,908

    (up from     1,874,834  ... + 10074 since the 159 million mark)


    Number of "UEE Fleet":                                     1,399,923

    (up from        1,378,267   ....  + 21656 since the 159 million mark)


    Noteworthy was the introduction of the Origin X1 open-canopy racer.



    Have fun




    JamesGoblin
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 7,984
    Star Citizen backers have passed  the 161 million dollar mark.  (161,005,443 $).

    Number of "Star Citizens" is currently at          1,890,868

    (up from     1,884,908 ... + 5960 since the 160 million mark)


    Number of "UEE Fleet":                                     1,407,127

    (up from        1,399,923   ....  + 7204 since the 160 million mark)


    Noteworthy was the Alpha 3.0 build being sent to the PTU. The first wave - the Evocati team - our trusted Avocados - are trying to break everything that is breakable.



    Have fun



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