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Lotro and Swtor worth it as f2p?

disantiadisantia savannah, TNPosts: 9Member

As that title states, would lotro or swtor be worth playing if you don't plan on spending any money at all? Are there major restrictions? Lvls/zones/gear? I don't mind paying for a f2p game. But I don't want to be forced too.

 

Also, on a side note. Anyone know of any good single player PC games with a female main character? Doesn't matter if it's premade or custom as long as it's female. Besides Skyrim/ME/DA/NWN/Borderlands.  Needs to be 3D and look decent. At least better or equal to DA:O. Thanks :)

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  • zaberfangxzaberfangx MAPosts: 890Member Uncommon

    Rift your best bet don't have to spend any money, you can get item from there cash shop if you need it with in game gold, but the content is free gear and many other stuff.

     

    Lotro I have not played my self but what I was tolded have many paywalls, for Swtor there free to pay very grindy as I played it, very limited on getting gear as free to play.

  • BoneserinoBoneserino London, ONPosts: 1,630Member Uncommon

    I haven't paid any money in Swotor, but then I am just playing it for the story lines.    Depending on what your goals are in the game, it could be restrictive or not.

     

    I never paid anything in Lotro until about level 30 and thats when zones start becoming locked off.  You do gain free Turbine points ingame, but I ended up spending some money simply because I enjoyed the world and was happy to pay a little to see the parts I wanted.  Again I would say it depends on what your goals are.

     

    I f  you are serious about not paying, I would say Swtor is best for that.   Hard to get past level 40 in Lotro without paying something IMO.  Plus you would have to pay for any expansions.  I imagine that applies to Swtor as well.

     

    In any case the standard rule applies:   Both are Free to Try, as I like to call it now.   So there is nothing to lose to download either game and give them a shot.

    FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Manchester, NHPosts: 2,932Member Uncommon

    swtor for the storylines as you level.

     

    LOTRO is too nickle and dimey.

  • TyserieTyserie KosicePosts: 110Member Uncommon
    I dont know about SWOTOR, but in LOTRO you don't have to spend any money. You can buy all for turbine points. BUT, you should 100% pay for one first month in game. The reason is, you will receive lot of bonuses which will stay with you after the subscriptionends and you will receive 500 turbine points. There is one condition for not spend money in LOTRO, it's you want play and you want play like real player. MMORPG is always time consuming, so if you have no time and you want all the nice things you saw on the guy with max lvl who is playing 5 years, you will have to pay. But my opinion, thats bad approach.  If you want rally play, you can have enough turbine points to buy even expansions. For the time I am playing, I did buy all the expansions and quests packs and 80% of all is for turbine points.
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade KingsmouthPosts: 2,646Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Boneserino

    I haven't paid any money in Swotor, but then I am just playing it for the story lines.    Depending on what your goals are in the game, it could be restrictive or not.

     

    I never paid anything in Lotro until about level 30 and thats when zones start becoming locked off.  You do gain free Turbine points ingame, but I ended up spending some money simply because I enjoyed the world and was happy to pay a little to see the parts I wanted.  Again I would say it depends on what your goals are.

    Pretty much what Boneserino said.

    I haven't played LotRO, but on SWTOR you can get all the unlocks you want from the in game GTN (auction house). Of course that means you would have do some farming for money, but it's pretty easy to get - especially once you get to the higher levels, or if you're someone who likes to craft (or to simply gather resources and sell the on the GTN).

    You can also get store currency by doing the whole boring grind thing that DDO, and from what I hear LOTRO as well, have you do. AKA make characters of every class on every server and run them through the started planets to get the one time store currency rewards. (It's a very poor investment when it comes to time vs reward however, just like in the other two games, but possible if you're absolutely set on not giving them a dime of your money).

    The only thing on SWTOR you can't get through playing, is the Rise of the Hutt Cartel expansion. You get that one for free the moment you subscribe for a month. After which you could easily go to "preferred" status (the one between F2P and sub)

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    If you don't want to spend a bob, I wouldn't exactly recommend either of these.

    Swtor becomes very easy to circumvent its restrictions once you have a character on lvl 50. Then you can do dailies and just buy the unlocks for stuff from gtn. But you need to get there which is easier as a p2p.

    LoTRO you need to pay for zone access and expansions. Sure you don't have to(which is exactly why I didn't use must), but be prepared for a serious grind then. I know people who unlocked over 80% of stuff via farming turbine points. Ofc, I would sub as well, because LoTRO gets confused as the account types change and you will be able to keep some stuff you realistically shouldn't.

    If you want a completely free(well almost) game which is quite playable, I'd recommend Rift.
  • disantiadisantia savannah, TNPosts: 9Member
    I'm playing rift now. I pre-ordered the game. Getting bored of it though. Playerbase is slowly decreasing.  Just need something else to play. I don't mind farming/grinding like hell to unlock content. As long as the game is good it won't even bother me. I always roll tons of alts and lvl them up to try them out lol. Think i'll give swtor a shot first. Hopefully it's fun. If not, off to Lotro. 
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade KingsmouthPosts: 2,646Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by disantia
    I'm playing rift now. I pre-ordered the game. Getting bored of it though. Playerbase is slowly decreasing.  Just need something else to play. I don't mind farming/grinding like hell to unlock content. As long as the game is good it won't even bother me. I always roll tons of alts and lvl them up to try them out lol. Think i'll give swtor a shot first. Hopefully it's fun. If not, off to Lotro. 

    If you enjoy playing lots of alts then SWTOR with its "Legacy" system will definitely appeal to you. :D

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,787Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by disantia

    As that title states, would lotro or swtor be worth playing if you don't plan on spending any money at all? Are there major restrictions? Lvls/zones/gear? I don't mind paying for a f2p game. But I don't want to be forced too.

     

    Also, on a side note. Anyone know of any good single player PC games with a female main character? Doesn't matter if it's premade or custom as long as it's female. Besides Skyrim/ME/DA/NWN/Borderlands.  Needs to be 3D and look decent. At least better or equal to DA:O. Thanks :)

    i dont know about lotro but swtor isnt worth it unless you subscribe.

     

    As for a single player game with female main character. Tomb Raider (2013) is totally worth it and one of the best games with female main characters. And you can get it for cheap on Amazon and Steam sales.

    I wish i could recommend Remember Me because the main female character is very interesting and it could have made a good franchise but the game itself is a piece of trash so dont bother with that one.

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  • GrumbsGrumbs Glory, MAPosts: 20Member Uncommon

    LOTRO is easily playable to level 30 without spending a dime.  The only annoyance you will find up to level 30 is your bank balance (gold) is capped - which I got around by constantly keeping my gear up-to-date by spending in the Auction House.

    Around level 30, you will have close to but not quite enough Turbine Points to unlock content that covers levels 28 to 40.  At this point you can spend a little real money for more Turbine Points, OR you can create your second free character and earn enough TP to unlock the content you want (it unlocks on the whole account).

    I found it to be a lot of fun up till I quit playing.

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Grumbs

    LOTRO is easily playable to level 30 without spending a dime.  The only annoyance you will find up to level 30 is your bank balance (gold) is capped - which I got around by constantly keeping my gear up-to-date by spending in the Auction House.

    Around level 30, you will have close to but not quite enough Turbine Points to unlock content that covers levels 28 to 40.  At this point you can spend a little real money for more Turbine Points, OR you can create your second free character and earn enough TP to unlock the content you want (it unlocks on the whole account).

    I found it to be a lot of fun up till I quit playing.

    Yeah like...I don't know what to say :/

    Is like saying "That girl's awesome until you talk to her". What? :D

  • ManestreamManestream PrestonPosts: 633Member Uncommon

    I cannot say about Lotro (last played that under subscription in EU when codemasters had it) then they got rid of it and accounts were handed back to mythic who gave you a week to claim before junking any accounts. Not played it since as I don't think I want to purchase everything I had in game again under the F2P design. Not to mention doing my character from scratch (which I would not mind doing anyways, as long as peeps helped), but purchasing everything upto mines of moria and 1 expansion above (carnt remember name offhand as I didn't play it that long after that part came out).

     

    As for SWTOR it is deffo NOT worth playing the f2p model at all, you will end up having to purchase everything (forced to doing it) and that will cost more than subscribing anyways.

     

    Games that have great F2P models are Rift and Defiance, Neverwinter also has a decentish F2P model as well. As far as any other F2P games I cannot say, too many orce you into using their store tio do anything. Those 3 don't.

     

    Oh almost forgot - Archeage is also an F2P model that's due out soon via Trion, however I cannot say anything about how good their F2P model will be at the moment on that game as I have only been in 1 beta stage (2nd one) and didn't really look into that as I only got to lvl 10 on several characters)

  • TholdornasTholdornas KielPosts: 59Member Uncommon

    I can only speak for SWTOR, for it's my guilty pleasure I return to every few months or so:

    It CAN be managed as F2P, but be ready to face many restrictions, some of them can be lifted with credits (ingame currency) via the Galactic Market, others can't.

    Personally, to fully enjoy the game without worrying about restrictions, subscribing is pretty much mandatory.

  • Po_ggPo_gg Twigwarren, WestfarthingPosts: 2,727Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by disantia
    I don't mind farming/grinding like hell to unlock content. As long as the game is good it won't even bother me. I always roll tons of alts and lvl them up to try them out lol. Think i'll give swtor a shot first. Hopefully it's fun. If not, off to Lotro. 

    For strictly the lines in OP I'd say "depends", but with the additional infos above, if you don't mind the grind, I'd say LotRO much more easily. And also the "depends" part is still there, of course: depends how do you wanna play :)

     

    In TOR you can play the stories for free, though you can forget altoholism with the 2 character slots limit. If you upgrade for preferred, it will be a bit better, but still won't be near to a subscriber's quality. You can grind CCs (massive grind), but with the 2 character slots that will be painfully slow.

    In short I used to say, TOR is good for a single-player game experience when you're on Preferred (and not good, just bearable one if you're free). If you want more than that, group play, raids, etc. subscribing is the way.

     

    LotRO is locking the quests between lvl30-50 from you, and the expansion quests, if you're f2p. (you can go there, do the story quests, killing, etc. just not doing the quest hubs). Also there are restrictions in your character (trait slots, inventory slots, etc.)  Farming TPs is a big grind, but easier to do than in TOR, especially since you have 2 character slots without a server lock, opposed to TOR (so 29 x 2 characters if your altoholism is taking you onto every server).

    But the main difference is, that in LotRO you can unlock every restrictions through TP, while in TOR if you're not subbed then you'll have limits, regardless of how much you've spent already.

    So if you want to play totally free (as said in OP), and don't mind the grind, in LotRO you can have the whole game for free.

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon

    There was that edition of LoTR:O that gave you SoA + MoM + 30 days. If you could find that one, it'd SEVERELY enhance your experience.

    But the only f2ps imo are MOBAs and those which will not be named. Everything else falls down into Free to Try category. Is what it is.

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid hell, NJPosts: 6,787Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Grassisgreen
     

    Just to add EVERYTHING in Swtor is available through the GTN with ingame currency.  You don't need to spend a dime and play the entire game for free.

    you forgot to mention free players cant earn enough money to buy most GTN stuff. The credit cap is too low. Or did EAWARE remove that cap? if they did then your comment is valid.

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  • GrumbsGrumbs Glory, MAPosts: 20Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Gorwe
    Originally posted by Grumbs

    LOTRO is easily playable to level 30 without spending a dime.  The only annoyance you will find up to level 30 is your bank balance (gold) is capped - which I got around by constantly keeping my gear up-to-date by spending in the Auction House.

    Around level 30, you will have close to but not quite enough Turbine Points to unlock content that covers levels 28 to 40.  At this point you can spend a little real money for more Turbine Points, OR you can create your second free character and earn enough TP to unlock the content you want (it unlocks on the whole account).

    I found it to be a lot of fun up till I quit playing.

    Yeah like...I don't know what to say :/

    Is like saying "That girl's awesome until you talk to her". What? :D

     

    No it's like saying 'That girl's awesome we had a great time together until I decided she wasn't great enough to splurge on a ring". 

  • DjordjeCDjordjeC BelgradePosts: 3Member
    I play,  and i can confirm that he/she is right.  With the current credit cap, you can afford only minor unlocks ie. those that are under 500CC in the store.
  • angerbeaverangerbeaver Dorval, QCPosts: 871Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by disantia
    I'm playing rift now. I pre-ordered the game. Getting bored of it though. Playerbase is slowly decreasing.  Just need something else to play. I don't mind farming/grinding like hell to unlock content. As long as the game is good it won't even bother me. I always roll tons of alts and lvl them up to try them out lol. Think i'll give swtor a shot first. Hopefully it's fun. If not, off to Lotro. 

    If grinding doesn't bother you I would think you will be fine in Lotro. Honestly I was a lifetime member and didn't hit any paywall but as someone else mentioned you can earn turbine points and use them to unlock areas and instances (skirmishes etc).

    I think the game is fun but I don't know how much population there is on the servers anymore

  • Po_ggPo_gg Twigwarren, WestfarthingPosts: 2,727Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Grassisgreen
    Originally posted by rojoArcueid
    Originally posted by Grassisgreen
     

    Just to add EVERYTHING in Swtor is available through the GTN with ingame currency.  You don't need to spend a dime and play the entire game for free.

    you forgot to mention free players cant earn enough money to buy most GTN stuff. The credit cap is too low. Or did EAWARE remove that cap? if they did then your comment is valid.

    Well I take it by your comment you don't play the game.  Even with the cap f2p can afford EVERY unlock on the GTN.  Players are aware of the cap and price items accordingly.

    There are several threads about it, not only here on mmorpg... I made a few posts myself about this months ago. I admit it could be server dependant, but on those servers I have characters, that's not true.

    I haven't seen any unlock below 200k during the first Nar Shaddaa month (which could've been a nice selling period because of the big player influx) and saw only a handful below 350k, mostly the "worthless" ones (show title :) ) Not long ago this issue was mentioned again, I checked that day the GTN, there was nothing below 350k.

     

    But it's not even important, since I wasn't talking about unlocks, I was talking about fleet pass, med. probes, lower crit rate, higher cost on everything, lower queue priority, etc. I could add he credit cap too, since it's un-liftable, you need to purchase escrow unlocks all the time (even preferred's 350k is a joke), same goes to the xp earning rate and the boosts (but that's only annoying during the levelling). If you purchase every unlock from the Store, you're still far from a subscriber as soon as you go back to Preferred.

    (in LotRO you lose close to nothing after your subscription expires. PvMP was the last remaining big subscriber perk, but now there's a pass for that to free/premium folks too in the Store. And you purchase the unlocks from Turbine, not from other Greedo players :)  so after a huge grind a fully free player can unlock the whole game.)

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    First of all pogg, don't use doubletalk. You'll mislead someone who doesn't know a thing about swtor.

    Second, swtor is a game where you need to ask yourself "which of these things do I REALLY need?". When you answer that, you'll see that it isn't half bad. Now I'll go point by point.

    Credit limit is largely pointless. Unless you like driving around in a car or on rancor or whatever, you are not missing that much. Almost all things come in "premium" and non premium packages-difference being only looks. With that said, you can play just fine using the prefered limit(350k).

    Fleet pass, really? Do you really need that one so much? I'd think not. Besides, you can shorten that cd through the legacy.

    Med probes->don't get defeated/choose your company. The worst that could happen is that you would need to take a little walk. God forbid.

    Lower CRAFTING crit rate. Yeah, this one is kinda bad, but so is the whole crafting if you ask me. It should be the prime target for 3,0. It doesn't really mean that much below 35, but above...

    Higher cost, yeah. But as I already said, the credits are not that valuable anyhow. I earned 500k even on prefered(ok I admit that I ended with 750k while subscribed, but meh).

    Q priority-oh Lord! Whatever happened to patience?

    "Limited" dungeon runs-this is a portently false rumour. You can run a dungeon countless times, but you can only press "need" button 5 times a week. Everything else is just the same. This brings me to the final and most often complaint:

    XP. What you get as a prefered is the intended xp. Subscribers get various bonuses such as 120(or is it 125?)% rate, rested xp and the like. You get, otoh, FULL 100% xp. Ignore the message that you get on 20-that is a leftover from the previous f2p model where you indeed got less xp(80%) as a non subscriber. Besides, xp is pathetically easy to get. Ever after the LFG opens, you can Q for kdy. It's a short tactical flashpoint that gives a metric ton of xp. If you are worried about the xp still, flashpoint xp buffs are cheap as all hell on the gtn(1000 credits and such). You can further mix them with a general xp buff for a staggering +50(or 40 /shrug)% flashpoint xp! All for cheap. You get xp buffs regularly while playing the story(after your or planet's story ends). That's 22 xp buffs/character with three 3hour long xp buffs(you get those when you end a chapter of your story). Also, what happened to the challenge? You could play vs orange enemies from time to time-it's fun trust me! You get ton of xp for defeating those and orange quests give something like double(2x) xp! You could try it from time to time instead of facerolling stuff. Not any particular you, but I do have to use a pronoun see.

    But, I will agree that there's loads of petty/pointless restrictions such as hide head slot/Unify colours/show title and the like. That's so petty!

    Oh and before anyone complains about the # of skills-don't. Just don't. Even as a complete f2p, you get up to 24(!) slots. Seeing how I have 2 lvl 50s, I can tell you that unless you spam skills, 24 slots is more than enough. You basically have up to 8 attack skills, up to 8 utilities(shared between defencive and offensive) and up to 6 consumables(a medpack, a stim, 2x adrenal and 2x Relic). To get to 24, we can add the heroic moment into the picture(which isn't even useable in group content) and, idk, Unity(lol). That's 24 skill slots. You don't need more! And even if you do, as a prefered(5$ purchase) you get 48(!!!).

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    The truth has to be said so people can decide on equal terms. Swtor was a very bland game with an equally bad Cash shop. It's no longer so.
  • Po_ggPo_gg Twigwarren, WestfarthingPosts: 2,727Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Gorwe
    First of all pogg, don't use doubletalk. You'll mislead someone who doesn't know a thing about swtor.

    Sorry, but... Doubletalk? Really? And then you say the same thing, in details even :)

    I just wrote, a free player can unlock the whole game in LotRO, while in TOR s/he'll be always behind the subscribers. Ok, with respect to your lengthy post, here's an addition:

    this "behind the subscribers" part depends on the given player's gaming style and focus, if s/he's lucky, then it's just a bit behind, if not so lucky, then far behind (according to your "do i REALLY need" paragraph). Happy now? :)

     

    Your list is an example according to your playstyle. Here's an another view:

    -cap: I like to play the market sometimes. If OP is like that too, he will see, that 200k, but even preferred's 350k is a joke.

    -crafting: I like crafting, do it in every game. True, it's not the best part of TOR, but I still do it, and with the Strongholds the system's importance and meaning even raised. If OP is like crafting too, the lower critical is a drawback.

    -Fleet pass: as I wrote it in the other thread, that's my main issue for subbing. I also have Hurried traveller and several milestones in LotRO. There are times when I smell the roses and strolling through the world, and there are times when I need to travel fast. You don't need it, fine... still, for some it's a valid issue. Btw. with full Legacy it has no cooldown for subscribers, and still has a 3 hours cooldown on preferred. Whis is a lot. At least for me.

    -Cost and queue: it's annoying. I admit, not some game-breaking issue, but still an annoyance, and something that's behind the subscriber's quality, without the option to eliminate it.

    -Xp: that's what I wanted to address the first place - dunno where's that comes from. It's a common myth. I've leveled characters before the f2p, after the f2p on sub, and after the f2p on preferred: it's a fact that sub has the pre-f2p xp earn, and preferred gets lower xp.  Without Rest xp counted, I'm talking about the base xp. At level 40 you need to kill trash for 2 hours to "catch up", which never was the case with subscription. Last time I checked it was a few months ago, so I dunno which f2p revamp you're talking about.

    Also loved your doubletalk ( ;) ) in this section, the same playstyle issue you had during the whole list: go play GSF and flashpoint for the additional xp? And if someone only wants to level and play the story? Oh, the irony :)

    Slightly connected to this part, med probes and the "don't die" advice (lol), let's say he wouldn't mind some flashpoints. At higher levels he won't even have the time to die, he'll be kicked right away... weaker gear, slow speeder, no med-probes ("only a little walk" yep, very few groups will be waiting for that, when everyone else is subbed). Choose your company: yep, because of the former, most likely he'll end up with other non-subbers. So the "just don't die" is an even tougher advice to execute - but at least they will take "the little walk" together :)

     

    There was no doubletalk from my part. In TOR you can't have the same game quality subscribers have, no matter how much you spend (or grind). Whether you need the missing parts or not, are they important to you or not, those stuff will be missing to you unless you subscribe. And OP asked about "if you don't plan on spending any money at all?" so without a sub. Easy as that.

  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,476Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Po_gg
    Originally posted by Gorwe
    First of all pogg, don't use doubletalk. You'll mislead someone who doesn't know a thing about swtor.

    Sorry, but... Doubletalk? Really? And then you say the same thing, in details even :)

    I just wrote, a free player can unlock the whole game in LotRO, while in TOR s/he'll be always behind the subscribers. Ok, with respect to your lengthy post, here's an addition:

    this "behind the subscribers" part depends on the given player's gaming style and focus, if s/he's lucky, then it's just a bit behind, if not so lucky, then far behind (according to your "do i REALLY need" paragraph). Happy now? :)

     

    Your list is an example according to your playstyle. Here's an another view:

    -cap: I like to play the market sometimes. If OP is like that too, he will see, that 200k, but even preferred's 350k is a joke.

    -crafting: I like crafting, do it in every game. True, it's not the best part of TOR, but I still do it, and with the Strongholds the system's importance and meaning even raised. If OP is like crafting too, the lower critical is a drawback.

    -Fleet pass: as I wrote it in the other thread, that's my main issue for subbing. I also have Hurried traveller and several milestones in LotRO. There are times when I smell the roses and strolling through the world, and there are times when I need to travel fast. You don't need it, fine... still, for some it's a valid issue. Btw. with full Legacy it has no cooldown for subscribers, and still has a 3 hours cooldown on preferred. Whis is a lot. At least for me.

    -Cost and queue: it's annoying. I admit, not some game-breaking issue, but still an annoyance, and something that's behind the subscriber's quality, without the option to eliminate it.

    -Xp: that's what I wanted to address the first place - dunno where's that comes from. It's a common myth. I've leveled characters before the f2p, after the f2p on sub, and after the f2p on preferred: it's a fact that sub has the pre-f2p xp earn, and preferred gets lower xp.  Without Rest xp counted, I'm talking about the base xp. At level 40 you need to kill trash for 2 hours to "catch up", which never was the case with subscription. Last time I checked it was a few months ago, so I dunno which f2p revamp you're talking about.

    Also loved your doubletalk ( ;) ) in this section, the same playstyle issue you had during the whole list: go play GSF and flashpoint for the additional xp? And if someone only wants to level and play the story? Oh, the irony :)

    Slightly connected to this part, med probes and the "don't die" advice (lol), let's say he wouldn't mind some flashpoints. At higher levels he won't even have the time to die, he'll be kicked right away... weaker gear, slow speeder, no med-probes ("only a little walk" yep, very few groups will be waiting for that, when everyone else is subbed). Choose your company: yep, because of the former, most likely he'll end up with other non-subbers. So the "just don't die" is an even tougher advice to execute - but at least they will take "the little walk" together :)

     

    There was no doubletalk from my part. In TOR you can't have the same game quality subscribers have, no matter how much you spend (or grind). Whether you need the missing parts or not, are they important to you or not, those stuff will be missing to you unless you subscribe. And OP asked about "if you don't plan on spending any money at all?" so without a sub. Easy as that.

    It must've stung when it made you make this kind of response. But then again, I am very good at getting to the heart of the matter. Some said that I would make a superb Enchantment Sorcerer. See, I agree <3 . Now if you threw Abjuration in the mix...

    Anyhow, thank you for bringing this to my pov. I didn't even understand how much I have been living in the self righteous land. This is golden, thanks! I will be more careful in the future.

    And no, I will not defend SWTOR. I just want things to be clear. If that hurts or aids doesn't really matter to me. Bioware is big enough company and it's their and their alone duty to defend it, to promote it, to make it better. Not mine, unless they pay me for that, of course!

    No need to get all warlike because of this(it seriously is not worth it). Let's just remain civil and peaceful.

  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon

    Try both games. The only thing you would loose is time for download.

    For SWTOR use referral - check  MMORPG SWTOR forum, bunch of referrals are in the first post from the top. It will give you some stuff to make F2P easier.

    If I would be you, I would try both games to at least level 20 or 30 to get a feeling.

    In SWTOR every class has a separate story. Based on majority vote /grin Imperial Agent, Jedi Knigtht and Sith Warrior are probably the best, but every one of them is better than in any other MMO (my opinion).

    In LOTRO all classes are leading the same path... there is a different initial zone for newbies up to level hmmm 7-8 I think (Elves, dwarves, hobbits and human start in different aerias), after that all share the same story.

    I am a Founder with lifetime sub in LOTRO, but did not play it for a while, animations make me cringe.The environment is beatiful though and the world is huge.

    I played SWTOR exclusively from early access with no break and still loving it.

     

    Both games have different appeal. Try them both.

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    Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
    Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
    Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  • HorusraHorusra maryland, MDPosts: 2,583Member Uncommon
    Animations in LotRO really annoy me other than that had fun leveling up one character just can not get myself to level up a second.
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