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On the other hand we know GW2 had 2 million sales at the first week and vgcharts tracked 800K, which means 60% of GW2 were digital sales.
So it isn't exactly apples to oranges either.
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So, you have been paying attention on these forums long enough to know what's been going on here, Your post is clearly meant to get in the "fanboy's" face and yet this is your 1st day postinghere?
You are risking a 4-6 month ban over a post like this? This site does take multiple accounts seriously if they find out you are using it to flame with. I suggest deleting one of your accounts.
Then, grow a set and post it on the account everyone's going to recognize.
Hell, it doesn't stop me from saying shit that I know pisses people off.
Why is he not allowed to post? If you like the game or not it doesn't matter - and vgchartz is the medium here each game is being compared using the same medium - it's consistant
He's not allowed to make an alternate account.
i can only assume this is sarcasm much like ur sig at the bottom of ur posts
How many times does it have to be said that VGChartz is not reliable for sales data at all? They ESTIMATE these numbers based off talking to a couple retailers. They get no digital sales data, no walmart, target, etc. They work with a few smaller retailers and then estimate the numbers from there based off retail sales only.
Major websites such as neogaf have banned even typing the name VGChartz on their forums because of how unreliable this website is. You cannot trust them unless it is older data that has been publicly released because they then go back and fix their numbers to be accurate to look better. No major analyst or news publication subscribe to this website as it is not reliable, hence why everyone relies on NPD which also fails to get most digital sales information as major digital sites do not release their sales data to the public (steam for example, origin, etc).
No, it's not sarcasm at all. ESO appears to have sold very few copies in general. It's not just these numbers, but these numbers reinforce what people have been expecting for a long time now. ESO did not sell very well when compared to previous MMORPG releases.
My sig really has nothing to do with anything. Although, it is extremely funny to me when people try and use it against me. It really just lets me know what kind of a poster someone else is.
Digital sales come directly from the publisher, and if the publisher doesn't provide them, VGChartz won't have them. Publishers have become increasingly more reticent about publishing their numbers, even obliquely so it's not that surprising that ZOS hasn't published any digital numbers at this time. The MMOData guy stopped even trying to publish subscriber numbers.
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And with everything pointing to low sales numbers, they will likely never release them. There is no point for them to because they are likely very low.
Excellent point and that statement breaks down the credibility of the consistent source vgchartz.
Might as well wait for Zen to release then go back and see if vgchartz figures change at all.
Another poster using a broken VGcharts website for speculation and lies. This is new and different.
You do know VGcharts only reports a small % of retailers and doesn't include digital sales or sales directly from ZOS, right? Right?!
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.
Long term or short term I dunno how long I will be enjoying this game.. But I'm enjoying it now and that's what is important. No sale number won't change my mind either
Nah, same poster with his new account just for this....starting to think the ESO forums on this site are only maybe 15 different people with multiple accounts.
Again, why does he care at all.. If he dosen't like the game then don't play it. Why waste time on trying to scare people?
I wasn't talking about him. i was talking about your 'even if it sells 50K copies, then i would still enjoy it'.
Yes you will but not for long.
Well.....Wildstar is still more than a month away and Archeage(NA) still doesn't have an official release date(and many people have mixed feelings around the Founders pack) so these particular fanboys are upset that their game's forums are kinda dead so they have to come to the current shiny's more active forums to try to crap all over it.
TL:DR - They are bored and bitter and want to spread their misery.
Funny i said the same thing yesterday and even reported a guy who was posting on multiple accounts to boost his own opinion. How he got caught? he forgot to remove the raptr signature from his alt account which was same name as his main. Busted!!!
So yeah its a fact that people use multiple accounts to make an illussion that everyone is agreeing with them.
Do you work in their financial team? Nowadays firms do not gamble alot and I bet it also counts for game developers. They all have studied well informed workers in the financial sector which can calculate the ROI (return on invest) already b4 they started to develope this game...
Even they go f2p or b2p it doesnt mean they have financial problems just a new marketing trick to gather even more...since the old system got milked out.
I hope people who aren't involved in companies financial sectors stop doing predictions without knowing anything about it.
Many of these games have layoffs. It's more of a reality than a prediction when a game severely undersells. Particularly in the MMORPG sector. The question you should be asking is, "did this game sell far less than expected?" If yes, then there will likely be layoffs coming down the pipeline. It's an awful thing that happens in the industry, but it's a reality.
I don't think that guy was using his alt account to boost his opinion. I think that was an honest mistake. But to each their own. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt even when I shouldn't. I'm too nice for the internetz
Currently Playing: ESO and FFXIV
Have played: You name it
If you mention rose tinted glasses, you better be referring to Mitch Hedberg.