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Well the number of views is still rising as it was only recently uploaded. It's at about 90k now, and on average his reviews get about a million views.
As I mentioned earlier, disagree or agree this is still just one guy's opinion. No need to be so defensive about it.
No, we live in a world where a good portion of the population views xp boosts in F2P games as P2W because it helps you level faster. What then is ESO?
Yes... Only GW2 and ESO..
... aside from Dragon's Prophet, Wildstar, DCUO, WoW ....
Yeah... totally only 2 MMOs, though. Great job fact-checking your info before posting it.
Seriously, though...
The pertinent question is, what does that matter? It's a game. He played ESO, and he reviewed ESO based on its own merits and his own experiences with it.
Why should how many MMOs he's played have anything to do with it?
Oh, oh... right..
Because, just as lifeordinary illustrates in post #4 on this thread, fans will immediately swoop in and think of any way they can to dismiss or discredit AJ's review (such as pointing out how many MMOs he's played), while taking some personal swipes at him in the process, because he dared to criticize "their game".
So predictably intolerant. "What? Someone gave a MMO I like a low rating?! Burn them at the stake!".. and out come the pitchforks and ad-hominems.
I'd love to see what the response would have been if he'd come out praising it, as he did GW2. Guaranteed, it would be the complete opposite.
The replies would have been more like this: "I've never heard of this Angry Joe guy, but I respect his opinion! He's just earned another subscriber!", "He's only played 2 MMOs, and probably isn't as jaded many people, so his views are more accurate"... and so on. Guaranteed.
Oh yes. I, for one, subscribed to his channel. Very nice review. Especially the "immersion" part.
And 5/10 is still a high score in my opinion.
Stages of a new mmo: 1) It's just beta. It still has plenty of time before release. 2) It just launched. Give it time. WoW wasn't built in a day. 3) We don't need you anyway. 4) F2P announced. 5)Huge influx of players. 6) Look how much has changed. 7) Cash shop is the only thing developed lately. 8) It has been a long journey and we thank everyone who was part of it. Shutting down in 3 months. (Courtesy of Robokapp.)
To put thing into perspective:
Angry Joe gave GW2 a perfect 10 (legendary!)
Witcher 2 got an 8.
Dragon Age 2 got a 7!!! Say what you will about ESO, it's easily miles better than the travesty that was DA2. On top of that, how does Witcher 2 only get a single point higher than DA2? Really, they're not even on the same planet.
Has he really only reviewed 2 MMO's? Does this guy even play MMO's?
LVL 33 here with 22K gold. 17.K is what the cheapest Horse costs. So if i buy the horse i am not left with much considering how much all the guild stores in my 5 guilds are saturated with same items. Anything hardly sells anymore. And 5K isn't enough at my level with high costs of repair.
So what am i doing wrong here if it is 'so easy' to get a horse at lvl 20?
Unless you are getting very lucky on motifs i don't see that happening.
The biggest problem with this whole thing is no one should go off of anyone else's opinion! That's it. People should play and game or read up on a game and its development. Not go trolling other peoples opinions about stuff.
If you have never played the game or if you have not played at least a good bit of a game I would say a week or two with a good amount of playing time your opinion is probably bias.
Go play games and enjoy yourselves and stop whining about every little issue a game has. If you don't like it then don't play it, if you do like it play it pretty simple. Games are suppose to be about having fun and enjoying yourself not looking for what you kind find wrong with them.
Lastly if you ever compare one game to another you should just stop right there. Rate a game on it's own performance not how you hold it up to something else.
It's obviously an opinion but he definitely played through a lot of the game and does back up most of his gripes with video proof which really can't be disputed.
Watch http://youtu.be/Ax-_06Acj8Y?t=27m40s he explains not only his 10/10 for GW2 but how you should view his review scores in general.
I could mention again that this is one guys opinion, and it may not be the same as yours, but that horse has been beaten to death.
I don't have an opinion on the game either way since I haven't tried it yet. But I wanted to point out the fact that PC Gamer doesn't even use a x/10 rating system. And if they did, their actual rating of 68, see http://www.pcgamer.com/review/the-elder-scrolls-online-review/ would be closer to 7/10.
In an ideal world that would be very true, but when we're being charged $50-$70 (and a subscription to continue playing) I'm gonna read reviews and listen to opinions.
I personally don't particularly like the way Angry Joe comes across - its probably just an online persona he's created to stand out from the crowd, but he usually gives out some fairly good reviews imo.
I tried the ESO beta and tbh think he (and a number of other 5/10 / 6/10 reviews I've read) is pretty spot on. Of course thats just my opinion, feel free to ignore it, I'm sure I enjoy other games that you don't :P
This game is even worst. Save your money guys.
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As I recall..
He was very "meh" about the PvE and wasn't that interested.
He loved the PvP and it got him a bit more excited for the game.
His overall impression of the game changed over time - just like many, many, many others' do. You know, there's that whole honeymoon period where the game is fresh and new and exciting. Then that newness wears off and everything becomes familiar and routine... which is the point at which someone's "final" impression of it is reached.
He gave his score based on his entire experience, overall, and to him it's a 5/5.
Seems normal and completely acceptable to me.
Amazing how you people just keep trying to discredit the guy's opinions, though. Someone plays the game, finds it's overall pretty "meh", and y'all tear into them like vultures.
So to get an entry level mount, i have to get half way to the leveling experience? That's just stupid. In beta, i got to around 9k gold in the starter islands. The first horse is 17k, if i'm not mistaken.
As Joe says, it really is "F2P tactic". Now, if they buffed the gold from drops, chests, etc, and made it easier in the release version, that's great, and i take it back. But otherwise, it's obviously a way to get people to pay.
Gold is hard to get, first mount costs alot of money, allow players to buy it with irl cash. Considering ESO already as a box and sub fee, that's pretty milky IMO.
The only other "milking tactic" i hate more is allowing players to play in any faction by onyl pre-ordering. This is second in my book.
Translation: His view of the game is same as mine so its "spot on"
In most mmos you dont even have the option to buy a mount until around 15+. At least in this you can ride one as soon as you start. Dont blame anyone if you personally cant figure out how to get the money and buy it because I have seen plenty of people who bought it before even level 10, and I mean the normal horses not imperial ones.
Define loser because objectively he is anything but (living any gamer's dream).
Also to the guy above you: Spot on means spot on, aligns with objective opinions of the game which pretty much state the game launched as a steaming pile of sun warmed garbage (ratio of quality to money spent getting into the game).
You can watch him stream on Twitch, where Youtubers are more down to earth, and no it's not an online persona. Most of the clips from his ESO review are taken straight from his stream and he does get angry on the fly like he does on camera.
Okay, his opinion is "just one guys opinion" and so is mine. So if that's how you feel about it, why did you make this thread if his opinion is just as valid as mine?