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Wait..wait..wait.. There is No EU-Server on Launch?

HrothaHrotha -Posts: 821Member

I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

I am literally out of words if this is the case.

 

Okay there we go: forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1494562-game-launches-with-eu-server-located-in-us/

This was officially the last Bethesda game I have ever and will ever purchase. I am so done with this bullsh*t.
 

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  • AroukosAroukos AthensPosts: 571Member
    True, as it is true that a whole race will be locked for everyone, except those who buy Collector's Edition!
  • GodOfForbiddenFruitsGodOfForbiddenFruits BristolPosts: 52Member
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU. At the start of release EU server will be in US, because that way it will be easier for them to access it and fix any major problems if there will be. A bit later on after the release they will seamlessly transition the server to the EU. It's already in place and almost ready. Transition won't cause any trouble for players, it will happen smoothly with no downtime, maybe a couple of minutes.

    You won't have lag WHATSOEVER. IF you even want you can always keep playing in US. ALL betas were in US. And people from EU had no lag whatsoever, no game disadvantage to US players.

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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko RotterdamPosts: 3,845Member Uncommon

    Yes, that's quite correct.

     

    There will be no EU-based server cluster at launch, it will be a separate cluster, but hosted in the US alongside the US server cluster. Once the game is considered "stable", that cluster will be migrated to a physical location in the EU.

     

    I do not expect this to cause any issues for me, as I'm EU-based and had no noticeable performance issues during the beta weekends, even though those sessions were overloaded in an attempt to simulate stress on the servers.

  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,523Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU. At the start of release EU server will be in US, because that way it will be easier for them to access it and fix any major problems if there will be. A bit later on after the release they will seamlesly transition the server to the EU. It's already in place and almost ready. Transition won't cause any trouble for players, it will happen smoothly with no downtime, maybe a couple of minutes.

    You won't have lag WHATSOEVER. IF you even want you can always keep playing in US. ALL betas were in US. And people from EU had no lag whatsoever, no game disadvantage to US players.

    Why are you being so butthurt with your "I am out of words if this is the case"?

    People these days will find any reason to get "upset".

     

    COMPLETE BS!

     

    Umm having additional 100+ms of latency is a big deal - otherwise why would they bother even having a EU based megaserver?

    Oh yeah - that's right - because of lower latency for EU players.

     

    There is no excusing this - they F'd up - their german datacenter wasn't ready in time - it's a screwup, there's no denying it.

    Being upset over not having an EU based datacenter for EU players - to me that's warranted.

    Can you imagine the outcry if US players had to play on EU servers????

    C'mon - get real.

    In PvP 100+ms of additional latency is HUGE - my latency to US TESO servers is below 20ms, now compare that to someone who is in 180+ms in EU - it's a huge advantage for me.

     

  • HrothaHrotha -Posts: 821Member
    Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU.

    There is NO EU Server! The server is title EU but IS LOCATED in the US. That makes it an US server. If you can count 1+1 together than this means that Bethesda is simply counting the subscriptions from EU to see if it is worth it to establish a server here. There is no EU server for the EU. It is an US server located in the US, with a label "maybe moved to EU" on it.

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  • JabasJabas Caldas da RainhaPosts: 1,207Member Common
    Thanks for the info OP. As a european on the fence about this game, maybe i just decide wich side im going to jump...
  • DeniZgDeniZg ZagrebPosts: 669Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Hrotha
    Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU.

    There is NO EU Server! The server is title EU but IS LOCATED in the US. That makes it an US server. If you can count 1+1 together than this means that Bethesda is simply counting the subscriptions from EU to see if it is worth it to establish a server here. There is no EU server for the EU. It is an US server located in the US, with a label "maybe moved to EU" on it.

    OP, why are you making such a big deal out of this? ESO has tab-target combat in disguise anyway, so 100-150 ping won't matter much.

    Disclaimer: I'm not buying or playing this game, just trying to constructively participate in a discussion.

  • PatchezPatchez wiltsPosts: 58Member
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    Okay there we go: forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1494562-game-launches-with-eu-server-located-in-us/

    This was officially the last Bethesda game I have ever and will ever purchase. I am so done with this bullsh*t.
     

    You can be sure of three things in life:

     

    1. Death

    2. Taxes

    3. Hrotha will flip flop over ESO every other day

  • ZeddakisZeddakis My Own World, VAPosts: 119Member Uncommon

    "Get a life. No one besides you cares."....Really because I just read another thread with a poll that was against this and there seemed to be a lot of people who cared in that thread.

     

    "Once the game is considered "stable""....So the game will not be considered "stable" at launch? That doesn't sound too good.

  • SeelinnikoiSeelinnikoi LONDONPosts: 661Member Uncommon
    I posted a thread about this issue too. Glad I managed to save the money from pre-order.
  • GregorMcgregorGregorMcgregor FalkirkPosts: 222Member Uncommon

    My favourite part will be when they move the data across, and "opps!" it gets lost and/or damaged. THEN the fun will begin!

    "We had a small issue while transferring some data to the EU, please re-roll." /mindbomb

    ;)

    No trials. No tricks. No traps. No EU-RP server. NO THANKS!

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    ...10% Benevolence, 90% Arrogance in my case!
  • LorgarnLorgarn SwedenPosts: 371Member Uncommon

    Zenimax seems to keep making one interesting decision after another. They're on a streak by now. :)

     

    I for one won't recommend ESO to anyone of my friends, not until they get a proper EU server anyhow. 

  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU. At the start of release EU server will be in US, because that way it will be easier for them to access it and fix any major problems if there will be. A bit later on after the release they will seamlessly transition the server to the EU. It's already in place and almost ready. Transition won't cause any trouble for players, it will happen smoothly with no downtime, maybe a couple of minutes.

    You won't have lag WHATSOEVER. IF you even want you can always keep playing in US. ALL betas were in US. And people from EU had no lag whatsoever, no game disadvantage to US players.

    Why are you being so butthurt with your "I am out of words if this is the case"?

    People these days will find any reason to get "upset".

     

    Get a life. No one besides you cares.

    You've got to be joking? The EU community have every right to complain.

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  • pupurunpupurun spartaPosts: 537Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

     

    ''You won't have lag WHATSOEVER''

    you ARE joking right?

  • KuinnKuinn MestaPosts: 2,093Member
    I'm not going install the game until the server cluster is located in EU. If it takes too long for them to open EU server I will return my copy of the game and they might as well consider my money transferred from them to EAware and Carbine.
  • PhryPhry HampshirePosts: 6,289Member Uncommon
    EU servers in the USA, seriously... are Zenimax deliberately making it harder for themselves, because no matter how much they try and spin that one, it will have a negative influence on the game, first we hear that Zenimax are seperating console players not just from PC players, but also seperated by console brand, and now their introducing much higher than average latency issues for EU players, which either indicates they don't care too much about EU players and are focusing resources on their American customers, or they just couldn't afford to have actual EU servers, either way it doesn't look good, Zenimax seems to be making a habit of self inflicted injuries lately, can't help but wonder what the next 'exciting' reveal will be image
  • AroukosAroukos AthensPosts: 571Member
    Originally posted by Kuinn
    I'm not going install the game until the server cluster is located in EU. If it takes too long for them to open EU server I will return my copy of the game and they might as well consider my money transferred from them to EAware and Carbine.

     

    Start think of doing this now, because its not easy to transfer them to EU. At least in a short time and short after release (if they ever move them)...

  • TsumoroTsumoro EozeaPosts: 408Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU. At the start of release EU server will be in US, because that way it will be easier for them to access it and fix any major problems if there will be. A bit later on after the release they will seamlessly transition the server to the EU. It's already in place and almost ready. Transition won't cause any trouble for players, it will happen smoothly with no downtime, maybe a couple of minutes.

    You won't have lag WHATSOEVER. IF you even want you can always keep playing in US. ALL betas were in US. And people from EU had no lag whatsoever, no game disadvantage to US players.

    Why are you being so butthurt with your "I am out of words if this is the case"?

    People these days will find any reason to get "upset".

     

    Get a life. No one besides you cares.

    Don't be a complete tool with your responses, they clearly had some concerns about it which you could of addressed without getting insulting. So let me educate you as to why this might be concerning for some;

    1) Lag IS an issue, even if its down to mere micro-seconds it is an issue. Especially for those whom like to do competitive play to which in ESO will be a thing considering it has a strong PvP vibe to it. So yes, if someone from the US is able to act quicker from someone from the EU it becomes a problem. 

    2) Server updates! The biggest peeve known to all EU players forced to play on a US server. The time they do their maintenance is based on a US schedule which means the Americans get to have their game down whilst they sleep ready for them as they awake. Us in the EU end up having the server go down right in prime time evening meaning for the most part that we can't play the game 1 day out the seven. 

    I could actually go on and on about potential problems that this causes for some people. But, I wont. Can't be that bothered. For myself, none of the issues concern me, I am happy to play as things are. But, I can understand and appreciate that some of these issues might concern others even if you cant. 

  • Spaceweed10Spaceweed10 LondonPosts: 625Member
    Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU. At the start of release EU server will be in US, because that way it will be easier for them to access it and fix any major problems if there will be. A bit later on after the release they will seamlessly transition the server to the EU. It's already in place and almost ready. Transition won't cause any trouble for players, it will happen smoothly with no downtime, maybe a couple of minutes.

    You won't have lag WHATSOEVER. IF you even want you can always keep playing in US. ALL betas were in US. And people from EU had no lag whatsoever, no game disadvantage to US players.

    Why are you being so butthurt with your "I am out of words if this is the case"?

    People these days will find any reason to get "upset".

     

    Get a life. No one besides you cares.

    I care.  That makes your post useless.

  • HabitualFrogStompHabitualFrogStomp SydneyPosts: 281Member

    I'll start caring the moment anyone starts caring about oceanic players lag. So EU players have to put with no dedicated localized server for an undetermined but apparently short period of time. Try forever and then get back to me.

    If this is the worst the habitual haters have to rag on today about TESO, Zenimax aint doin half bad.

    Honestly, this is such a non (temporary) issue its not even funny.  But please continue to rave like lunatics about it, its pretty awesome.

     

  • AroukosAroukos AthensPosts: 571Member
    Originally posted by Tsumoro
    Originally posted by GodOfForbiddenFruits
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    What's your problem? There ARE two servers - US and EU. At the start of release EU server will be in US, because that way it will be easier for them to access it and fix any major problems if there will be. A bit later on after the release they will seamlessly transition the server to the EU. It's already in place and almost ready. Transition won't cause any trouble for players, it will happen smoothly with no downtime, maybe a couple of minutes.

    You won't have lag WHATSOEVER. IF you even want you can always keep playing in US. ALL betas were in US. And people from EU had no lag whatsoever, no game disadvantage to US players.

    Why are you being so butthurt with your "I am out of words if this is the case"?

    People these days will find any reason to get "upset".

     

    Get a life. No one besides you cares.

    Don't be a complete tool with your responses, they clearly had some concerns about it which you could of addressed without getting insulting. So let me educate you as to why this might be concerning for some;

    1) Lag IS an issue, even if its down to mere micro-seconds it is an issue. Especially for those whom like to do competitive play to which in ESO will be a thing considering it has a strong PvP vibe to it. So yes, if someone from the US is able to act quicker from someone from the EU it becomes a problem. 

    2) Server updates! The biggest peeve known to all EU players forced to play on a US server. The time they do their maintenance is based on a US schedule which means the Americans get to have their game down whilst they sleep ready for them as they awake. Us in the EU end up having the server go down right in prime time evening meaning for the most part that we can't play the game 1 day out the seven. 

    I could actually go on and on about potential problems that this causes for some people. But, I wont. Can't be that bothered. For myself, none of the issues concern me, I am happy to play as things are. But, I can understand and appreciate that some of these issues might concern others even if you cant. 

     

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  • Spaceweed10Spaceweed10 LondonPosts: 625Member
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    Okay there we go: forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1494562-game-launches-with-eu-server-located-in-us/

    This was officially the last Bethesda game I have ever and will ever purchase. I am so done with this bullsh*t.
     

     

    There is already a thread on this subject.

    Mods, please close.

  • LobotomistLobotomist ZagrebPosts: 5,051Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Hrotha

    I am just quoting someone claiming that the EU server is added after launch.. “sometime after launch”

    Does this mean we are playing a game here in the EU, that is sold and advertised here, but it’s server is located in the US? Can anyone confirm this?

    I am literally out of words if this is the case.

     

    Okay there we go: forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1494562-game-launches-with-eu-server-located-in-us/

    This was officially the last Bethesda game I have ever and will ever purchase. I am so done with this bullsh*t.
     

    ESO is not Bethesda game. They have nothing to do with it.

    The game is made by Zenimax , which is (was) game distributor company. First time developing game. And since they own TES IP they make this MMO.

    So dont bash Bethesda ;) they have nothing to do with this game.

     

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  • AzureProwerAzurePrower AustraliaPosts: 1,508Member Uncommon

    Oceanics say hi. And that it could be worse. Much worse.

     

    We're not talking your so cute 150ms pings you have to put up with.

    Oh no. 250ms if you're lucky! Even up to 400ms is not unheard of!

     

    Yet we don't protest the end of the world.

  • askdabossaskdaboss LondonPosts: 631Member Common

    As I understand it, every EU player is going to be in the same bag, so everyone is going to have lag, and everyone is going to be affected by the same delay (so it shouldn't matter in terms of competitive play).

    This won't affect my decision to play the game from the first day however it is looking like I won't be subscribing into a second month, as they seem to have many issues to sort out first.

     

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