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Destruction of LA event... does anyone really enjoy this?

ElikalElikal ValhallaPosts: 8,063Member

Granted, I have no idea who Scarlet Briar is, or why she wants to destroy Lions Arch, because I missed half or more of the "Living Story", but... ok, the destruction looks grandiose, but... 50+ people rushing through a city zerging. Does anyone really think that is fun?? Just wondering. I had enough after half an hour mindless mass zerg already.

 

Can we have an expansion pack pls now? Like Kantha. Or Elona.

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  • PhogoXPhogoX Shaumburg, ILPosts: 11Member Uncommon
    I find it fun.  The best rewards take 1500 rescues.  Mindless zergs don't get close to that.
  • thunderCthunderC miami flPosts: 470Member Uncommon
    This game was so much fun leveling to cap, But  after that the fun factor took a serious nose dive, I still feel like this game has so much potential just based on this massive beautiful world they have created .  The "endgame" design is just so dam boring The entire lvl cap exp would need to be revamped, Living story content is horrible IMO. 
  • ElikalElikal ValhallaPosts: 8,063Member
    I find it distasteful. It reminds me of going shopping at Walmart when  they have some cheap special offer and masses of people push me around. I already hate crowds in RL. I distaste large supermarkets already, and this is exactly like that. XD

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  • NaqajNaqaj Frankfurt am MainPosts: 1,673Member

    Don't run with the zerg then? Get a party and run the other way? The whole zone is full of objectives, you don't have to flock to the events.

    People are always complaining about the zergs, but for some reason they never consider they could just ignore it and do their own thing.

  • An4thorAn4thor RomaPosts: 524Member
    Originally posted by Naqaj

    Don't run with the zerg then? Get a party and run the other way? The whole zone is full of objectives, you don't have to flock to the events.

    People are always complaining about the zergs, but for some reason they never consider they could just ignore it and do their own thing.

    This. You want max rewards? Work with others, it's an mmorpg not a singleplayer game.

    You want to have fun in small environmet? Make a party with friends and do events together. Especially in overflows it's easy to find LAs without many commanders; split from the pack and have fun your way.

    People LOVE to complain just for the sake of complaining. Every event it's the same complaints about zergs..

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog SPosts: 1,124Member Uncommon

    also funny is he don't even know who is scarlet or why the attack on Lions Arch, if you don't read of course its boring you don't know anything, and even with zergs we have a hard time to fight there so to me its nice already.

     

    now serious if you are agoraphobic or something play a SP, MMo are not you deal.

    peopel complain the maps are empty and then when people go tothe map they are zerged.... can't make everyone happy, heh?

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  • MadDemon64MadDemon64 Maplewood, NJPosts: 1,098Member Uncommon
    I don't usually follow the crowds.  I just make a beeline to the nearest event.  Of course when no events are available I will follow the crowd because its easier to take on the elites and champions, but otherwise I just do what I want there (of course I will take infrequents breaks to farm ores because I need to increase my smithing level in order to make ascended items)

    Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  • cnutempcnutemp Fairfax, VAPosts: 229Member Uncommon
    i agree playing with lots of other people sucks, all every zone should have a 10-20 person max.  This is an mmorpg after all.
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,064Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by thunderC
    This game was so much fun leveling to cap, But  after that the fun factor took a serious nose dive, I still feel like this game has so much potential just based on this massive beautiful world they have created .  The "endgame" design is just so dam boring The entire lvl cap exp would need to be revamped, Living story content is horrible IMO. 

    I agree... i leveled all classes to atleast 50 and 4 to max... endgame is not really fun..

     

    They promissed new content...   this is not new content... i hate repeating things over and over..

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,777Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Naqaj

    Don't run with the zerg then? Get a party and run the other way? The whole zone is full of objectives, you don't have to flock to the events.

    People are always complaining about the zergs, but for some reason they never consider they could just ignore it and do their own thing.

    Exactly!  It's like when they complain about being able to instant port whenever they want. Just don't do it if you don't like it. 

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  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,804Member Uncommon

    "Meh you can solo everything".

    "Meh you have to zerg to complete it"

    "Meh the world is a desert"

    "Meh the world is so full".

    "Meh you need no organization".

    "Meh you have to organize a bunch of strangers and split them up".

     

    So exactly do thpse players want?

    They want pre-organized medium-largish groups that follow the holy trinity.

    That is called raids and there are a ton of other games out there for them.

    GW2 on the other hand offers different types pf massive group play.

    For example the Marionette offered a first zergy phase that then would split is small groups vs a boss with some mechanic.

    The TriWurm requires organization and coordination plus understanding of specific mechanics.

    The LA escape is the big zergs farm against tough mobs,

     

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  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,804Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by thunderC
    This game was so much fun leveling to cap, But  after that the fun factor took a serious nose dive, I still feel like this game has so much potential just based on this massive beautiful world they have created .  The "endgame" design is just so dam boring The entire lvl cap exp would need to be revamped, Living story content is horrible IMO. 

    I agree... i leveled all classes to atleast 50 and 4 to max... endgame is not really fun..

     

    They promissed new content...   this is not new content... i hate repeating things over and over..

    So releasing a new zone where you kill mobs and do events would be content.

    Re-releasing a zone adding mobs and events where none existed, isn't?

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  • nastyjmannastyjman New York, NYPosts: 161Member

    I enjoy it.

    The sense of destruction, the sounds of screaming and the immensity of the chaos is amazing. LA is no more. Villagers are spread out, and I have the need of helping them. The karma train is there, but their size also gives this immersion of chaos and disorganization -- it's like their part of the scene. What I love about it is the end... when things get poisonous. I like to pretend I'm crawling towards the exit, screaming in the back of my mind, "GET TO DE CHOPPA!

  • JJ82JJ82 Chicago, ILPosts: 1,177Member Uncommon

    I get one thing from my guildmates that play, and another from some other players and I noticed something consistent about it all.

    Some have the hive mind mentality and some don't.

    Those that don't have it, are having a blast doing their own thing. My guild doesn't zerg and have allied with those that think the same. They watch for where the zerg is going, and go the other way more often than not in 3 or more groups covering several directions, one of the reasons why their server is always at or near the top in WvW. They are doing the same with this new content and doing great.

    Those that have the hive mentality see the zerg and join in, without thinking, as if they have no choice. All while complaining about there being a zerg mentality when in fact, they themselves are the reason for it. It more than likely stems from having played so many games where developers controlled their every action without their realizing it.

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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,546Member Uncommon
    While the sheep are mindlessly zerging, I run around rescuing citizens and keeping them safe by clearing the way, raking in the rewards.

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  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaPosts: 8,436Member Uncommon

    Op just the other day i had a player in a different game tell me the new age of fun is just total spam fighting,using her exact words "nobody likes strategy anymore,your play style is dead".Of course i ../sigh and lol but whatever,i guess we have to expect different folks for different strokes right?


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  • eliteroelitero fremont, CAPosts: 263Member Uncommon
    Possibly the one event I enjoy most as a PVP oriented player. =)
  • Bad.dogBad.dog Belleville, ONPosts: 1,108Member
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by thunderC
    This game was so much fun leveling to cap, But  after that the fun factor took a serious nose dive, I still feel like this game has so much potential just based on this massive beautiful world they have created .  The "endgame" design is just so dam boring The entire lvl cap exp would need to be revamped, Living story content is horrible IMO. 

    I agree... i leveled all classes to atleast 50 and 4 to max... endgame is not really fun..

     

    They promissed new content...   this is not new content... i hate repeating things over and over..

    To be honest TESO has killed this game for me ...the server  I'm on is on a wvw downspin and the living story has run it's welcome out with me

  • GormogonGormogon Waukegan, ILPosts: 188Member Uncommon

    One time I ran around with half a dozen people freeing and escorting citizens, but I found the material rewards were much higher running with the zerg; as far as I could tell rescuing citizens was not even close to as profitable (aside from the fact that everybody wins when you reach the milestones).  Necromancer->Zerg->Epidemic->Profit or Engineer->Zerg->Nades->Profit.  There are plenty of champions in the events which seem to drop deluxe gear boxes in addition to a piece of gear.  

     

    Incidentally, if you could get 100 people on board, everybody would need to save just 15 citizens, or one every 3 minutes.  It's kind of frustrating that getting more than a dozen people to work on it most cycles is harder than any of the content in the city.  :(

     

    I think ArenaNet does visual detail really well (for MMO purposes), and the destroyed city is a really great example of that.  On the other hand, having enough unique content to keep it from getting really repetitive has been a problem all through the parts of the LS I've seen.  The short-lived nature of the LS content creates time pressure that makes players feel obligated to keep doing the same tasks ... but the tasks themselves otherwise don't often have much substance to them.  In the case of LA I would rather have seen some sort of event progression more like Orr's temple events rather than a mostly generic cycle.

  • Sk1ppeRSk1ppeR PlovdivPosts: 511Member
    Originally posted by Elikal

    Granted, I have no idea who Scarlet Briar is, or why she wants to destroy Lions Arch, because I missed half or more of the "Living Story", but... ok, the destruction looks grandiose, but... 50+ people rushing through a city zerging. Does anyone really think that is fun?? Just wondering. I had enough after half an hour mindless mass zerg already.

     

    Can we have an expansion pack pls now? Like Kantha. Or Elona.

    Well, you spent that half or more of the living story here on the forums saying how bad it is. Reap what you sow my friend. The patch of last week...the Edge of the Mists one was like a story recap. They said EVERYTHING known so far and threw new stuff. You actually found out about the attack on LA by yourself checking evidence!  They explained why and what happened. A patch before that you went into scarlett's hidden room.

    The past few patches have been made to ramp up people's playskill and teamwork efficiency....yet people still choose to zerg it. Well its simple, if you zerg, you WILL fail, end of story. Marionette? It required organized group of ~80+ players to complete. The great jungle wurm? On both continents (NA/EU) i think there are only 7 or 8 servers that managed to do it because they do not mindlessly zerg. Not to mention that in EotM alone you can push whole zergs off of cliffs to their deaths :) 

     

    Overall, I find the new installment of living world quite enjoyable. Currently working on getting that new backpiece they introduced with it. Would fit my warrior rather well. Then again I'm just scouting around in LA, not joining the zerg.

     

    Oh did you know that Gw2's events scale up based on the number of players participating? :) 

    yeah...about that...a zerg's events are a lot harder and take more time to complete. This way they are unable to even grasp 1500 rescues 

     

    TL;DR; You're doing it wrong mate ;) 

  • moravamorava svilajnacPosts: 29Member Uncommon
    GW2 is Massive Multiplayer Online Game, it suppose to have large number of people playing together. I found it distasteful when someone wants to diminish game by calling some group events zergs. Simply, no one force you to play and when some people gather to play its impolite to insult them, on forum or everywhere.
  • khartokhar3khartokhar3 HannoverPosts: 486Member

    i love it. havent played gw2 for a while and since a week im back again. and this patch was just great. thats what an mmo has to be. bringing the masses of players together to fight for something together.

    btw if you just zerg and only do events and kill mobs you wont reach anything. you have to build groups and small zergs to reach the goal of 1500 saved citizens.

  • eye_meye_m Notta Chance, ABPosts: 3,133Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Naqaj

    Don't run with the zerg then? Get a party and run the other way? The whole zone is full of objectives, you don't have to flock to the events.

    People are always complaining about the zergs, but for some reason they never consider they could just ignore it and do their own thing.

    ^^This, exactly this.^^

     

    Isn't it sad that so many people can't comprehend the ability to "not follow"  

     

    I would also like mention that with the OP complaining about having too many people around in an mmo, why isn't there more posts from the "facepalm meme" crowd and the "GW2 is dead" crowd?

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  • MeowheadMeowhead New Carlisle, INPosts: 3,716Member

    Now that people are starting to NOT zerg and are spreading out, there's a lot more strategy visible with fights, and the collective score is getting much higher on average.

    In this event it's =easy= to zerg, but it's not actually good to zerg.  And people have been picking up on that and changing how they do it.

  • JoeyMMOJoeyMMO SomewherePosts: 1,326Member
    Well, it sure shook things up. I'm not sure whether I love it or not. That would depend on whether LA gets rebuilt or stays destroyed. I guess LA is too convenient to just abandon. But it changes things in a pretty rough way, so I guess that's actually a good thing.

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