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Poll - What if Vanguard actually released properly in 2014 - would you play it?

MargulisMargulis Glendale, AZPosts: 1,614Member

It's an alternate universe far far away and the horrible launch and quick death of Vanguard never happened......  Actually it never even released and is coming out this upcoming year.......   It is in a finished state, not rushed, not full of bugs, and has a large development team that will stay with the game.........  and the mmo community in this day and age is wanting more and more something different than the generic themepark clones we have been fed for 10 years.........

 

Seriously folks, would this game released properly in this day and age not get you excited?  I've played so many mmo's where people will talk about things that they wish someone would make in an mmo and I've thought how Vanguard already has that.  Yeah in some aspects it was still a theme park but anyone who really played the game knows it was way more than just that.

Update - this is a list of current features Vanguard already has, there seemed to be some confusion over this:

2.  No instancing at all in the giant game world

3.  Open world housing (also non instanced)

4.  Ship building and sailing

5.  Fishing that is actually interactive and deep like the crafting system

6.  Group focused content

7.  Diplomacy system

8.  Harvesting system that is interactive and incorporates group harvesting

9.  Challenging content, corpse runs, etc.

10.  Tons of class and race options.

11.  Giant world that creates a sense of wonder and immersion.

12.  Over 120 non instanced dungeons

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  • NevulusNevulus Miami Beach, FLPosts: 1,288Member Uncommon
    of course. My only problem with that game is the rigid character animations (slow combat), models, and the god awful stuttering between chunks. I still think it's one of the better mmos out there for exploration and difficulty.
  • olepiolepi Austin, TXPosts: 1,150Member Uncommon
    Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.

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  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 20,008Member Uncommon
    No proper PVP model, so no

    In my day MMORPG's were so hard we fought our way through dungeons in the snow, uphill both ways.
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  • Ice-QueenIce-Queen USA, GAPosts: 2,451Member Uncommon
    I would play Ultima Online or Asheron's Call again if they updated the games and re-released them.

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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Oxon Hill, MDPosts: 1,147Member Uncommon
    Probably for a bit. But I rather play a sandbox but I'd give it a chance just because I like the genre.
  • BoreilBoreil Dallas, TXPosts: 448Member Uncommon
    Hell yea, in a heartbeat, id actually be playing it now if my guild had not moved on to other games.

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  • JemcrystalJemcrystal Champaign, ILPosts: 1,558Member Uncommon
    I tried to play Vanguard but it kept crashing my PC.  Let me change your scenario a bit.  What if COMPUTERS actually released properly and were not pieces of crap secretary masterbaitting machines but were all AFFORDABLE god-like gamer PC's that worked?  Yeah, have a go at that then maybe I could play shit with decent graphics and laggy games like Vanguard as well.

  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Oxon Hill, MDPosts: 1,147Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Ice-Queen
    I would play Ultima Online or Asheron's Call again if they updated the games and re-released them.

    I rather play games like UO with different lore and world.  I am burned out on it.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon

    You mean VG with a graphics update because all that other stuff already exists in the game.

    Maybe for a bit, but there is a lot about the game that is lacking that would need improvement. The open areas have little of interest in them. Wide open spaces are nice but they need to actually have interesting stuff between points that makes travel and exploration more interesting.

    The diplomacy system is really interesting but the TCG implementation sucks. It's the same with LoN in EQ2 - immersion breaking and weird.

    There is a good core potential to a game designed like VG, but it would need fleshed out a lot more to make it as a AAA release today.

  • GwapoJoshGwapoJosh Auburn, INPosts: 991Member Uncommon
    Yup.. It's what I'm playing at the moment anyways.

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  • flizzerflizzer Manchester, NHPosts: 1,550Member Uncommon
    If the game would run smoothly , yes.  I remember getting stuck in a rock within my first half hour in the game.  Ive debated about returning many times but always find reasons not to.  
  • kadepsysonkadepsyson sun prairie, WIPosts: 1,937Member
    Once quests became useless compared to just grinding in a dungeon to level and gain equipment, I was done with the game.  Releasing in 2014 wouldn't change the grind.

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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,065Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by olepi
    Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.

    Not so much the graphics.... But the annimations where the killer for me, if they added gw2 annimations... I would be tempted.

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  • SmellyNannerSmellyNanner Metairie, LAPosts: 152Member

    If the game had any kind of community I'd probably give it a shot (Never have I played the game)

    But from what I hear, the features that is has really attracts me, but the lack of population makes me not play the game.

  • HaitesHaites Los Angeles, CAPosts: 69Member
    The philosophy behind content creation in the game was pretty solid, but the implementation was a miss.  If they could release it today as a proper, bug-free, and smoothly functioning game, sure.  Unfortunately players in this genre seem to have a very low tolerance for a miss and I think that ship has long since sailed.  Too bad too as there was tremendous potential from that title.
  • fantasyfreak112fantasyfreak112 Orange County, CAPosts: 499Member

    The game they were beginning to develop in beta? Sure I'd play it; however, they wowified the game 1-2 weeks before release, which made it a game I wouldn't pee on if it was on fire.

    Ultimately they chose a very poor engine from the start so it really had no chance no matter how much they threw at it but it could have been a lot better then the dung heap it's become these days. Brad McQuaid even came back in an attempt to fix it but quickly found out that both his babies were beyond fixing, inevitably getting fired over it.

    Pathfinder may offer a true Vanguard experience but you'd be a fool to hold your breath.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Stone Mountain, GAPosts: 13,675Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by olepi
    Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.

     ^--- this post is a perfect example of why there's no money in making cutting edge graphics for most developers. Doing so means having to do a graphics overhaul every three years or gamers will reject/leave it, no matter how much they like the gameplay.

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  • iZakaroNiZakaroN SofiaPosts: 723Member Uncommon
    Many years I have played most of MMOs that I can get to, released, beta or alpha. Vanguard still is the best Themepark mmo in my memory, maybe I will still playing it of was properly managed.



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  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    If the graphics were updated, and the animations were smooth and responsive, then yes.

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  • HaitesHaites Los Angeles, CAPosts: 69Member
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by olepi
    Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.

     ^--- this post is a perfect example of why there's no money in making cutting edge graphics for most developers. Doing so means having to do a graphics overhaul every three years or gamers will reject/leave it, no matter how much they like the gameplay.

    If that were true many, many games would have long since been gone.  Graphics get people in the door.  Community and gameplay keep them there.

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by olepi
    Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.

     ^--- this post is a perfect example of why there's no money in making cutting edge graphics for most developers. Doing so means having to do a graphics overhaul every three years or gamers will reject/leave it, no matter how much they like the gameplay.

    Pretty much hit the nail on the head. For all the complaining about quality gameplay mechanics, gamers don't put their money where their mouth is. The game currently has all the stuff the OP is asking for, but older dated graphics and animations.

    This is why, despite the flaws of little indie Eldevin, it's a fun game for me. I just don't need CryEngine graphics to dive into a game. I also realize I'm likely in a small minority and out of touch with mainstream gamers. That's okay because there is stuff I like and I support that with money and my time.

  • GdemamiGdemami Beau VallonPosts: 7,870Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by olepi Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.
     ^--- this post is a perfect example of why there's no money in making cutting edge graphics for most developers. Doing so means having to do a graphics overhaul every three years or gamers will reject/leave it, no matter how much they like the gameplay.

    That is why EVE isn't improving the graphics...?

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,221Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Haites
    Originally posted by Loktofeit
    Originally posted by olepi
    Do you mean it launches with updated graphics? If so, then yes, I'd play it. But if it launched today with the existing graphics? Probably not.

     ^--- this post is a perfect example of why there's no money in making cutting edge graphics for most developers. Doing so means having to do a graphics overhaul every three years or gamers will reject/leave it, no matter how much they like the gameplay.

    If that were true many, many games would have long since been gone.  Graphics get people in the door.  Community and gameplay keep them there.

    If graphics are the gateway drug, then the graphic junkies will ditch out when a new improved shiny visual feast comes along. I'm saying if people aren't attracted to the game because of how the play works and the quality of the community, then they're not likely to stay.

  • g0m0rrahg0m0rrah indianapolis, INPosts: 269Member
    I would be playing it right now if the classes had actual choice involved with them. Nothing bothers me more then when gear is the only difference between two characters of the same class. I guess this is why I prefer eq2.
  • DirkinDirkin Manassas, VAPosts: 78Member

    I've been playing VG since it launched. I too always feel sad when I see people posting on here about what they want and knowing VG has just about all of it, but they probably have never and won't ever try it. All because of the bad launch horror stories or now, its age.

     

    I'd hardly call VG wowified. It has both elements of sandboxes and themeparks in it, and it is more quest driven than straight grinding, but it's far from WoW or many of its clones. It does so many things well, and actually not all that many things badly anymore.

     

    The graphics overall are still actually pretty damn good, I think. The graphic design and landscapes/world especially. The character models and animations, though, need updating. But I'm willing to look past those, always have been in games if the gameplay and community are good. Server performance has been an issue for many, although the game has been heavily optimized recently to cut back on all that. The game isn't really the ghost town many believe it to be either, although if you play at really off times it might be pretty sparse.

     

    Apart from those things though, and PvP, which I know some people really do want, and that's fine, VG does so much stuff really well. If the type of game at all interests you, you should at least try it out.

     

    There was actually just a rather large patch to VG yesterday where they did a big round of optimizations and updates, with a new big raid dungeon coming out soon.

     

    Edit: I can't spell apparently.

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