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Open beta?

RampajiRampaji copenhagnePosts: 50Member

Any rumors about open beta is coming up soon?

 

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  • TygranirTygranir Colordo Springs, COPosts: 741Member
    Game launches in the spring. Open Beta just before launch.

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  • evilizedevilized columbus, OHPosts: 564Member Uncommon
    If they want to make sure nobody buys the game they will open beta soon.
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Den HelderPosts: 9,064Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Game launches in the spring. Open Beta just before launch.

    If there is an open beta, so far open betas never helped a game, more pre orders get canceled then bringing potential new customers

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  • TygranirTygranir Colordo Springs, COPosts: 741Member
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Game launches in the spring. Open Beta just before launch.

    If there is an open beta, so far open betas never helped a game, more pre orders get canceled then bringing potential new customers

     Zenimax has confirmed that there will be an open beta.... not sure if that was under NDA though...

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  • FearumFearum Cinnaminson, NJPosts: 1,166Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Game launches in the spring. Open Beta just before launch.

    If there is an open beta, so far open betas never helped a game, more pre orders get canceled then bringing potential new customers

    Where is the proof in this statement?

  • TatercakeTatercake Auburn, WAPosts: 279Member

    i lot of you will be disapointed  when you try this best  just fucking chill  intell release

     

  • RampajiRampaji copenhagnePosts: 50Member

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

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  • evilizedevilized columbus, OHPosts: 564Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Rampaji

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

    bethesda isn't developing this game, zenimax was contracted to make it and they are a totally separate company.

  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Posts: 5,447Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by evilized
    Originally posted by Rampaji

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

    bethesda isn't developing this game, zenimax was contracted to make it and they are a totally separate company.

    Try they are owned by the same company. They are 100% bedfellows. 


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  • baphametbaphamet omaha, NEPosts: 2,836Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Originally posted by Tygranir Game launches in the spring. Open Beta just before launch.
    If there is an open beta, so far open betas never helped a game, more pre orders get canceled then bringing potential new customers

    open betas do help, they stress test servers and i am sure they will need to test the megaserver tech, which will require a lot of people.

    but it doesn't necessarily have to be an open beta, they could just invite a shit ton of people and have massive last minute beta weekends.

    it's essentially the same thing.

    that said, i will only play it at launch unless it's like a week before, even then i might just toy with the character creation tool.

    tired of betas ruining my post launch experience.

  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAPosts: 1,160Member
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by evilized
    Originally posted by Rampaji

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

    bethesda isn't developing this game, zenimax was contracted to make it and they are a totally separate company.

    Try they are owned by the same company. The are 100% bedfellows. 

    That's like saying the makers of Diablo are owned by the same company as the makers of WoW. They're the same.

     

    Being owned by the same company means didly squat in terms of expecting company A's game to be anything like company B's game.

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  • IselinIselin Vancouver, BCPosts: 5,609Member Uncommon
    Open beta and early access have become such a standard perk of pre-ordering that I would be shocked if a) there isn't an open beta and b) pre-purchase doesn't guarantee a spot.
  • asmkm22asmkm22 Anchorage, AKPosts: 1,788Member
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Game launches in the spring. Open Beta just before launch.

    If there is an open beta, so far open betas never helped a game, more pre orders get canceled then bringing potential new customers

    Based on my closed beta experience, I don't think they care about that.  Unlike pretty much every other game beta (open or closed), the ESO team has actually used it for legit reasons like bugs and mechanics testing.  I have a feeling their open beta will be more of a stress test, rather than a marketing ploy.

    Make no mistake, lots of people are going to be unhappy with the game, but that's because they're demanding things like "modded skyrim online" and stuff.  Nothing will make them happy.  And that's fine.

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  • rodarinrodarin camarillo, CAPosts: 575Member
    Originally posted by Sephiroso
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by evilized
    Originally posted by Rampaji

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

    bethesda isn't developing this game, zenimax was contracted to make it and they are a totally separate company.

    Try they are owned by the same company. The are 100% bedfellows. 

    That's like saying the makers of Diablo are owned by the same company as the makers of WoW. They're the same.

     

    Being owned by the same company means didly squat in terms of expecting company A's game to be anything like company B's game.

    Theyre the same the same guy started both of them. Its all legalieze. I said it somewhere before. If ESO tanks then it is going to be "zenimax fault' not Bethesda. That way they can still continue the ES IP on single player platform and people like you who actually think there is a separation wont be judgmental.

     

    As for open beta. I suspect theyll go the 'new' route. If you preorder you get into open beta, if you dont then you wont. So it really isnt open it will be a restricted pr launch sort of deal.

     

    This game would more than likely suffer from any of that. The beta invites have been extremely limited so maybe 2500-4000 people have seen the game? They had over a million sign up for it, not sure how many individual people that represented but surely a lot more than what have beta tested it. So there is still a lot of mystery. Even though 75% of the beta talk has been less than positive most will chalk that up to people being 'haters'.  But if they release it before people commit it wont be a mystery anymore. SO I really dont see how they can possibly release an truly open beta.

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    Hopefully it wont have microsoft sam voice overs
  • HoiPoloiHoiPoloi Jackson, DEPosts: 86Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by rodarin
    Originally posted by Sephiroso
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by evilized
    Originally posted by Rampaji

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

    bethesda isn't developing this game, zenimax was contracted to make it and they are a totally separate company.

    Try they are owned by the same company. The are 100% bedfellows. 

    That's like saying the makers of Diablo are owned by the same company as the makers of WoW. They're the same.

     

    Being owned by the same company means didly squat in terms of expecting company A's game to be anything like company B's game.

    Theyre the same the same guy started both of them. Its all legalieze. I said it somewhere before. If ESO tanks then it is going to be "zenimax fault' not Bethesda. That way they can still continue the ES IP on single player platform and people like you who actually think there is a separation wont be judgmental.

     

    As for open beta. I suspect theyll go the 'new' route. If you preorder you get into open beta, if you dont then you wont. So it really isnt open it will be a restricted pr launch sort of deal.

     

    This game would more than likely suffer from any of that. The beta invites have been extremely limited so maybe 2500-4000 people have seen the game? They had over a million sign up for it, not sure how many individual people that represented but surely a lot more than what have beta tested it. So there is still a lot of mystery. Even though 75% of the beta talk has been less than positive most will chalk that up to people being 'haters'.  But if they release it before people commit it wont be a mystery anymore. SO I really dont see how they can possibly release an truly open beta.

    In the letter published today with the launch info, Matt Firor said there were 300,000 people at the last beta event in November.

    So they are definitely in the ballpark of being able to host an open beta when the time is right.

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  • Sevenstar61Sevenstar61 Centreville, VAPosts: 1,690Member Uncommon

    There will be definitely more beta testing based on the Matt Foror's letter. Will it be open beta? Time will tell.

    "As some of you know, we’ve been in beta testing for about a year now, leading up to our most recent test in late November where we had over 300,000 people in the game over a 48 hour period. We’ve had approximately 4 million people sign up for beta and that number continues to grow. We hope that just about every one of you who have signed up for beta will get an invitation to play sometime between now and the weeks before launch. These tests are very important, not only for gameplay feedback, but also to test our infrastructure. Beta tests can sometimes be a little rough when we are testing some systems for the first time with large numbers of players. So thank you to all who have participated for your understanding and support. It is very much appreciated."

     

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  • William12William12 Saint paul, MNPosts: 680Member
    Originally posted by Sephiroso
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by evilized
    Originally posted by Rampaji

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

    bethesda isn't developing this game, zenimax was contracted to make it and they are a totally separate company.

    Try they are owned by the same company. The are 100% bedfellows. 

    That's like saying the makers of Diablo are owned by the same company as the makers of WoW. They're the same.

     

    Being owned by the same company means didly squat in terms of expecting company A's game to be anything like company B's game.

     

    It actually depends.  If they all work in the same building you can bet they share resources and people and have had multiple people work on the Single player and MMORPG versions.   Otherwise its most likely a different team maybe you send over a guy or 2 to consult or work with the team but beyond that probably not.

  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Posts: 2,114Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by evilized
    Originally posted by Rampaji

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

    bethesda isn't developing this game, zenimax was contracted to make it and they are a totally separate company.

    Not Correct.

    This from the Zemimax website:



    Welcome to ZeniMax Online!
     

    We create world-class online games at our headquarters in Hunt Valley, Maryland, including the recently announced The Elder Scrolls Online.

    ZeniMax Online is part of the ZeniMax Media group of companies, which includes our publishing partner Bethesda, Bethesda Game Studios, id software, and Arkane Studios.

  • kragekrage Miami, FLPosts: 419Member
    Originally posted by Fearum
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Game launches in the spring. Open Beta just before launch.

    If there is an open beta, so far open betas never helped a game, more pre orders get canceled then bringing potential new customers

    Where is the proof in this statement?

    I think this is relevant:

    Information from analytic firm EEDAR suggests that releasing a game without a demo can almost double sales.

    http://www.gamespot.com/articles/game-demos-can-hurt-sales-suggests-research/1100-6410863/

     

    I can understand why MMOs would stop doing full on Open Betas, but since its already industry standard I think it will reflect poorly on the game and the company. To some it would seem as if they are going for a money grab because they doubt the quality of their own game.

    I dont blame them though, we MMO gamers are a tough crowd to please and when the inevitable angry gamers try it out they will do all in their power to bash the game on as many sites as possible. So between those seemingly never ending supply of negative testers/reviewers and open Beta "demos" I can only imagine how much a hit all these MMOs have been taking from Open Betas.

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  • rodarinrodarin camarillo, CAPosts: 575Member
    Originally posted by HoiPoloi
    Originally posted by rodarin
    Originally posted by Sephiroso
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by evilized
    Originally posted by Rampaji

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

    bethesda isn't developing this game, zenimax was contracted to make it and they are a totally separate company.

    Try they are owned by the same company. The are 100% bedfellows. 

    That's like saying the makers of Diablo are owned by the same company as the makers of WoW. They're the same.

     

    Being owned by the same company means didly squat in terms of expecting company A's game to be anything like company B's game.

    Theyre the same the same guy started both of them. Its all legalieze. I said it somewhere before. If ESO tanks then it is going to be "zenimax fault' not Bethesda. That way they can still continue the ES IP on single player platform and people like you who actually think there is a separation wont be judgmental.

     

    As for open beta. I suspect theyll go the 'new' route. If you preorder you get into open beta, if you dont then you wont. So it really isnt open it will be a restricted pr launch sort of deal.

     

    This game would more than likely suffer from any of that. The beta invites have been extremely limited so maybe 2500-4000 people have seen the game? They had over a million sign up for it, not sure how many individual people that represented but surely a lot more than what have beta tested it. So there is still a lot of mystery. Even though 75% of the beta talk has been less than positive most will chalk that up to people being 'haters'.  But if they release it before people commit it wont be a mystery anymore. SO I really dont see how they can possibly release an truly open beta.

    In the letter published today with the launch info, Matt Firor said there were 300,000 people at the last beta event in November.

    So they are definitely in the ballpark of being able to host an open beta when the time is right.

    No way in hell was there even close to that many people. If that  is an actual statement its an outright lie. Unless there are a dozen other servers I dont know about. Or 298 thousand of them couldnt log on.

     

    EDIT I just read the statement. Looks like the semantics game to me. I bet they counted individual log ins and not unique people. Because no way there were that many people in that last beta. I doubt there were 5000 individuals that logged in. If there were 300K I dont care what race zone you were in it would have been a circus. I played a Breton and at no time was Daggerfall remotely busy let alone crowded.

     

    Either way Open betas are bad for games regardless.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,777Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by rodarin
    Originally posted by HoiPoloi
    Originally posted by rodarin
    Originally posted by Sephiroso
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    Originally posted by evilized
    Originally posted by Rampaji

    I'm just looking forward to play Elders Scroll :) Just like many of you people here on this forum.

     

    Besthesda keep up working and making this game a great and fun experience with friends and other good folk :)

     

    bethesda isn't developing this game, zenimax was contracted to make it and they are a totally separate company.

    Try they are owned by the same company. The are 100% bedfellows. 

    That's like saying the makers of Diablo are owned by the same company as the makers of WoW. They're the same.

     

    Being owned by the same company means didly squat in terms of expecting company A's game to be anything like company B's game.

    Theyre the same the same guy started both of them. Its all legalieze. I said it somewhere before. If ESO tanks then it is going to be "zenimax fault' not Bethesda. That way they can still continue the ES IP on single player platform and people like you who actually think there is a separation wont be judgmental.

     

    As for open beta. I suspect theyll go the 'new' route. If you preorder you get into open beta, if you dont then you wont. So it really isnt open it will be a restricted pr launch sort of deal.

     

    This game would more than likely suffer from any of that. The beta invites have been extremely limited so maybe 2500-4000 people have seen the game? They had over a million sign up for it, not sure how many individual people that represented but surely a lot more than what have beta tested it. So there is still a lot of mystery. Even though 75% of the beta talk has been less than positive most will chalk that up to people being 'haters'.  But if they release it before people commit it wont be a mystery anymore. SO I really dont see how they can possibly release an truly open beta.

    In the letter published today with the launch info, Matt Firor said there were 300,000 people at the last beta event in November.

    So they are definitely in the ballpark of being able to host an open beta when the time is right.

    No way in hell was there even close to that many people. If that  is an actual statement its an outright lie. Unless there are a dozen other servers I dont know about. Or 298 thousand of them could log on.

    I thought one of the main/unique features of this game was it was to run on only one server.

    edit: Plus it doesn't mean 300k on all at once.

     

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  • badwolf33badwolf33 San Ramon, CAPosts: 3Member
    No, it'll be like how WoW has consolodated servers. Ever noticed how you can be logged in at the same time as a friend and be in the same area, but not see them unless you group up? Kind of like, one universe, but multiple layers within it.
  • superconductingsuperconducting Rochester, NYPosts: 843Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by evilized
    If they want to make sure nobody buys the game they will open beta soon.

    Nobody will have to buy the game... it will turn free-to-play by the time launch comes!

    Heh

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