This game blows Diablo 3 away

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  • WizardryWizardry Ontario, CanadaMember EpicPosts: 12,990
    The funny thing about POE is that those popular builds were not popular until some streamer tried them out,then everyone jumps on the bandwagon.All you have to do  is be creative and try different approaches to your build.I don't think you can say it is a better game but it is definitely right on par with D3 and for a lot cheaper.

    Thing with Blizzard is they could release Diablo 12 and without anyone playing it,millions would buy it on a total whim.point is that Blizzard's success is not based on current products or game design but on past accolades to where millions buy their anything they sell now.

    I have played both and hands down i would play POE over Diablo anything and with very little thought into it.

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  • CelciusCelcius Member UncommonPosts: 1,112
    I think PoE is a good game for people who like to mini max and figure out builds. Personally when I play the game I find myself just looking up a build online and not wanting to bother. I save my min maxing for games that have more depth (MMOs) and treat ARPGS much more casually. Diablo 3 suits this much better for me. I also think the gameplay in Diablo 3 feels far superior. PoE feels a little dated to me. 
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Toronto, ONMember RarePosts: 1,347
    Oh yeah, and D3 on console (I played it on PS3) was actually really fun. I've been meaning to get the PS4 version. But I've been keeping busy with other things.
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  • SaluteSalute AthensMember UncommonPosts: 793
    @Redcor i m 100% with you :)

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Elmira, ONMember EpicPosts: 5,748
    OhhPaigey said:
    Oh yeah, and D3 on console (I played it on PS3) was actually really fun. I've been meaning to get the PS4 version. But I've been keeping busy with other things.
    Totally agree. I got the PS4 version and don't regret it at all. I actually enjoyed it more than the PC version.

    I've played POE, and I do really like it. I think that D3 has more polish, but POE have more depth/complexity. If that's what you're looking for. I found the their system a little overwhelming, myself. Honestly, I have enough games where I need to employ heavy theorycrafting. When I play D3 I just want to kill stuff. Fast. 

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  • ComanComan Hattem, AKMember UncommonPosts: 2,166
    I think POE is a better sequal to D2, but I do not think it blows D3 away. While they share the same market, they both cater to different ends of it and those who like both can play both. 
  • wrightstufwrightstuf Carlsbad, CAMember UncommonPosts: 659
    tried PoE while in beta. terrible game. to say its better than diablo 3 is laughable
  • NailzzzNailzzz fullerton, CAMember UncommonPosts: 515
     It's a great time for ARPG's. Frankly Diablo 3 just doesn't impress me on any level. I feel like it was a huge step backwards from Diablo 2. PoE on the other hand actually felt like a crossover of Diablo 2 with the skill/materia system of Final Fantasy. I backed it during it's kickstarter and consider it money well invested. Also backed the upcoming ARPG's Grim Dawn and Umbra. Both of which i am also confident about. Also looking forward to the remake of the Van Helsing trilogy which i really enjoyed.

     I will give Blizzard some credit though. They are really good at creating "baby's first" games to introduce the mainstream players to niche genre's these days. Diablo 3 is a pretty shallow and simple entry level ARPG in the same way that WoW was a shallow and simple entry level MMO. Over time they do make at least some attempt at complexity with expansions, so perhaps in a few more expansions they may actually turn Diablo 3 into a game worth playing, but by that point it certainly wont be worth the money you have to spend on expansions to get it there.
  • ArglebargleArglebargle Austin, TXMember RarePosts: 2,065
    tried PoE while in beta. terrible game. to say its better than diablo 3 is laughable
    Tried d3 demo.  Terrible game.  To say it is better than PoE is laughable!

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  • LobotomistLobotomist ZagrebMember RarePosts: 5,642
    The fact that D3 lets you change builds every time you want goes against hardcore convictions of D2 generation. I personally hate to be locked into a build and D3 lets me simply get creative without wasting hundreds of hours just to try another combination of stats (they call it complexity , i call it pointless waste of time).

    Different strokes for different folks i guess.

    But without saying D3 has far superior gameplay. Blizzard do know how to make things feel good and fun.



  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Columbus, OHMember RarePosts: 1,687
    Best ARPGs:

    1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie)
    2. Victor Vran
    3. Grim Dawn
    4. Van Helsing series (except 3)
    5. Path of Exile

    All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature. 

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  • xpowderxxpowderx Radcliff, KYMember UncommonPosts: 2,078
    Best ARPGs:

    1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie)
    2. Victor Vran
    3. Grim Dawn
    4. Van Helsing series (except 3)
    5. Path of Exile

    All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature. 
    Diablo 3 and  Marvel Heroes play and feel like kiddie ARPG's.  Which they are! 

    Have not played Victor Vran as of yet.  But Grim Dawn is a fantastic game!

    Path of Exile is frigdiculous past the first chapter!

    I put both Grim Dawn and POE as equals. Both have different styles, but both are fantastic at what they do!
  • Xion1985Xion1985 Cornelius, ORMember UncommonPosts: 229
    xpowderx said:
    Best ARPGs:

    1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie)
    2. Victor Vran
    3. Grim Dawn
    4. Van Helsing series (except 3)
    5. Path of Exile

    All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature. 
    Diablo 3 and  Marvel Heroes play and feel like kiddie ARPG's.  Which they are! 

    Have not played Victor Vran as of yet.  But Grim Dawn is a fantastic game!

    Path of Exile is frigdiculous past the first chapter!

    I put both Grim Dawn and POE as equals. Both have different styles, but both are fantastic at what they do!
    I get so tired of any time people don't like something all of a sudden it's a 'kiddie' game.  Why can't you just dislike a game without insulting those who do enjoy it.  There are plenty of adults who enjoy every single one of those games.  
    I have tried PoE multiple times never got into, I bought Grim Dawn this summer I think it's ok, and I enjoy Diablo 3 more than the other's.  However I can see why people like any of them they all have things they do well and things they don't.
  • xpowderxxpowderx Radcliff, KYMember UncommonPosts: 2,078
    Xion1985 said:
    xpowderx said:
    Best ARPGs:

    1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie)
    2. Victor Vran
    3. Grim Dawn
    4. Van Helsing series (except 3)
    5. Path of Exile

    All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature. 
    Diablo 3 and  Marvel Heroes play and feel like kiddie ARPG's.  Which they are! 

    Have not played Victor Vran as of yet.  But Grim Dawn is a fantastic game!

    Path of Exile is frigdiculous past the first chapter!

    I put both Grim Dawn and POE as equals. Both have different styles, but both are fantastic at what they do!
    I get so tired of any time people don't like something all of a sudden it's a 'kiddie' game.  Why can't you just dislike a game without insulting those who do enjoy it.  There are plenty of adults who enjoy every single one of those games.  
    I have tried PoE multiple times never got into, I bought Grim Dawn this summer I think it's ok, and I enjoy Diablo 3 more than the other's.  However I can see why people like any of them they all have things they do well and things they don't.
    I never said that I disliked them.  But Diablo 3 is by far very simplistic.  My grandson who is 8 has finished the game twice so far.  So "YES" it is a kiddie game.  Personal experience over opinion!

     What age group do you think Marvel Heroes favors? Where do you see MH ads outside of this site? Honestly I like Marvel Heroes.  They have added things to make it a much more dynamic game.  But it still directly markets kiddies above other group base.

    We can disagree, that is what forums are for.
  • Xion1985Xion1985 Cornelius, ORMember UncommonPosts: 229
    edited August 2015
    xpowderx said:
    Xion1985 said:
    xpowderx said:
    Best ARPGs:

    1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie)
    2. Victor Vran
    3. Grim Dawn
    4. Van Helsing series (except 3)
    5. Path of Exile

    All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature. 
    Diablo 3 and  Marvel Heroes play and feel like kiddie ARPG's.  Which they are! 

    Have not played Victor Vran as of yet.  But Grim Dawn is a fantastic game!

    Path of Exile is frigdiculous past the first chapter!

    I put both Grim Dawn and POE as equals. Both have different styles, but both are fantastic at what they do!
    I get so tired of any time people don't like something all of a sudden it's a 'kiddie' game.  Why can't you just dislike a game without insulting those who do enjoy it.  There are plenty of adults who enjoy every single one of those games.  
    I have tried PoE multiple times never got into, I bought Grim Dawn this summer I think it's ok, and I enjoy Diablo 3 more than the other's.  However I can see why people like any of them they all have things they do well and things they don't.
    I never said that I disliked them.  But Diablo 3 is by far very simplistic.  My grandson who is 8 has finished the game twice so far.  So "YES" it is a kiddie game.  Personal experience over opinion!

     What age group do you think Marvel Heroes favors? Where do you see MH ads outside of this site? Honestly I like Marvel Heroes.  They have added things to make it a much more dynamic game.  But it still directly markets kiddies above other group base.

    We can disagree, that is what forums are for.
    Well saying a kid can beat a game doesn't mean it's a 'kids' game.  Do you think Diablo 3 is really being marketed for your 8 year old?
    I didn't mention Marvel heroes because I personall\y have absolutely no experiance with the game, I know basically nothing about it other than it's an ARPG based at least loosely on Marvel lore.

    I was playing Diablo in 1996 I was 11 and I still don't think that it was a kids game.  

    I'm totally ok with saying Diablo 3 is simplistic, in a lot of ways it is.  Yes there is some depth to it but it's really only for the 'hardcore' who have tons of hours to grind.  I guess thats where I disagree though, simplistic may mean that a kid can play and enjoy a game however to me that doesn't make it a kids game.

    I think Grim Dawn does a good job of being simplistic yet not overly convoluted like PoE.  It takes the middle ground and like I said I do think it's ok.
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  • IsilithTehrothIsilithTehroth Unknown, AZMember UncommonPosts: 361
    While this may be true prior to ROS; it no longer pertains to D3 which has improved a vast amount. ROS added quite a bit(Granted should have been in launch) and D3 has been steadily improving with a huge free content patch coming in a week or so. Is D3 as good as D2? Not yet, but it is coming very close now and could overtake the throne with its better combat mechanics, ect.

    They'll be adding runestones and I heard rumor of another expac.

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  • ThaneThane berlinMember RarePosts: 2,773
    Coman said:
    I think POE is a better sequal to D2, but I do not think it blows D3 away. While they share the same market, they both cater to different ends of it and those who like both can play both. 
    actually PoE is no sequel to diablo at all ^^

    xpowderx said:
    I never said that I disliked them.  But Diablo 3 is by far very simplistic.  My grandson who is 8 has finished the game twice so far.  So "YES" it is a kiddie game.  Personal experience over opinion!

     What age group do you think Marvel Heroes favors? Where do you see MH ads outside of this site? Honestly I like Marvel Heroes.  They have added things to make it a much more dynamic game.  But it still directly markets kiddies above other group base.

    We can disagree, that is what forums are for.

    ....
    if you think diablo is too simple, maybe you should have tried to play past  torment1 ^^

    do you guys think PoE ended after it's story did? no? then why do you think diablo did.....


    see the prob? you are a casual commenting on end content, which you OBVIOUSLY never saw if you think your grandson finished diablo twice....

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  • Temp0Temp0 Memphis, IAMember UncommonPosts: 80
    Thane said:
    Coman said:
    I think POE is a better sequal to D2, but I do not think it blows D3 away. While they share the same market, they both cater to different ends of it and those who like both can play both. 
    actually PoE is no sequel to diablo at all ^^

    xpowderx said:
    I never said that I disliked them.  But Diablo 3 is by far very simplistic.  My grandson who is 8 has finished the game twice so far.  So "YES" it is a kiddie game.  Personal experience over opinion!

     What age group do you think Marvel Heroes favors? Where do you see MH ads outside of this site? Honestly I like Marvel Heroes.  They have added things to make it a much more dynamic game.  But it still directly markets kiddies above other group base.

    We can disagree, that is what forums are for.

    ....
    if you think diablo is too simple, maybe you should have tried to play past  torment1 ^^

    do you guys think PoE ended after it's story did? no? then why do you think diablo did.....


    see the prob? you are a casual commenting on end content, which you OBVIOUSLY never saw if you think your grandson finished diablo twice....
    To be honest I like diablo 3 but it is not a deep experience regardless of the difficulty setting. I am not some super serious Diablo 3 player but I have easily surpassed torment 6 and am able to handle mid tier greater rifts. Diablo 3 is a different approach to the series (I imagine this is largely due to being a pretty much entirely different dev team), where Diablo 1 was kindof a dungeon crawling adventure horror experience, Diablo 3 is practically a high fantasy arcade rpg (Diablo 2 lies somewhere inbetween but leaning a little more towards the first game than the third). I like both but I feel like the different kind of game doesn't do the IP justice.
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