This game blows Diablo 3 away

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  • GrinnzGrinnz Member UncommonPosts: 311
    Originally posted by boxsnd
    I don't understand the comparisons to D3. D3 is a shallow game that gets boring after a few weeks. PoE on the other hand is so complex it is impossible to "beat" even if you play it for years. If its netcode wasn't so bad it would be the perfect ARPG.

    Well not impossible to beat, but does offer a great deal more incentive to replay due to how the skill system is set up allow for you to try out different combinations of skills.

    Path of Exile while initially wasn't greater than D3, I feel with it's continuing evolution will eclipse all current ARPG's, and become the standard ( perhaps not visually though lol ) of ARPGs to come.

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  • mindw0rkmindw0rk St-petersburgMember UncommonPosts: 1,355

    For me Diablo 3 after expansions wins hands down.

    Biggest plus for me in PoE is how good it looks in 3D Vision

  • doodphacedoodphace Vancouver, BCMember UncommonPosts: 1,858
    Originally posted by mindw0rk
    For me Diablo 3 after expansions wins hands down. Biggest plus for me in PoE is how good it looks in 3D Vision

    ^This. D3 after the expansion is better than even D2 now.

  • iridescenceiridescence Member UncommonPosts: 1,552
    Originally posted by Hariken
    I played this game when it was in beta. I think the elitist hype train for this game is to much. Everyone says this the best hardcore game. I just don't get it. The big thing about this game is the skill tree which also makes it the most exploitable game out there. That massive skill tree and all the top players are all using the top 5 or 6 op builds you can make. Heck they are even posted here and online. I saw utube videos of guys showing how to never take damage ever playing this game from just using the skill tree. One guy was taking on an endgame boss. He was regening more health than the damage the boss was doing to him. He showed his build and posted it for others to use. Which means there's nothing hardcore about this game
    You`ve got a point but you also have the option to not look up builds online and to try to figure it out yourself in which case the game is pretty hard to master and very unforgiving because of the difficulty re-speccing
  • iridescenceiridescence Member UncommonPosts: 1,552
    Originally posted by Hariken
    I played this game when it was in beta. I think the elitist hype train for this game is to much. Everyone says this the best hardcore game. I just don't get it. The big thing about this game is the skill tree which also makes it the most exploitable game out there. That massive skill tree and all the top players are all using the top 5 or 6 op builds you can make. Heck they are even posted here and online. I saw utube videos of guys showing how to never take damage ever playing this game from just using the skill tree. One guy was taking on an endgame boss. He was regening more health than the damage the boss was doing to him. He showed his build and posted it for others to use. Which means there's nothing hardcore about this game at all. Its harder when your low lvl is all. But once you learn the builds its a cakewalk. I know this will piss off the hardcore fans of this game but i'm only saying what i saw. I didn't make it up. So with knowing the skill tree and socketing your gear and weapons with regen you can become godlike too. Which i would find boring as heck to play.

    You`ve got a point but you also have the option to not look up builds online and to try to figure it out yourself in which case the game is pretty hard to master and very unforgiving because of the difficulty re-speccing.

  • thinktank001thinktank001 oasisMember UncommonPosts: 2,144
    Originally posted by Aori
    Figured this was an old thread haha, I tried PoE again but didn't last long. I like the whole making my own character however with desyncs considered a "feature" by the community and the whole botting/account sharing thing takes any competitiveness out of the ladder. I still can't enjoy boss fights, still feels like I am fighting regular NPC's with ridiculous mechanics. Only thing PoE has over D3 is being a build simulator. Blizzard is just taking to long with their patches these days.

     

    The feature they talk about is the ability to instantly quit a game, and is a built in feature that the developers take into consideration when they design enemys.   I dislike this feature also and I think it skews development too much and is one of the reasons I quit this game.   

     

  • boxsndboxsnd Kraxton, ARMember UncommonPosts: 438
    Originally posted by thinktank001
    Originally posted by Aori
    Figured this was an old thread haha, I tried PoE again but didn't last long. I like the whole making my own character however with desyncs considered a "feature" by the community and the whole botting/account sharing thing takes any competitiveness out of the ladder. I still can't enjoy boss fights, still feels like I am fighting regular NPC's with ridiculous mechanics. Only thing PoE has over D3 is being a build simulator. Blizzard is just taking to long with their patches these days.

     

    The feature they talk about is the ability to instantly quit a game, and is a built in feature that the developers take into consideration when they design enemys.   I dislike this feature also and I think it skews development too much and is one of the reasons I quit this game.   

     

    You do realize that this feature makes HC viable right? Ever wonder why nobody plays hc in D3? Because if you disconnect/crash it is almost always certain death.

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  • SaluteSalute AthensMember UncommonPosts: 794
    I played thousands of hours in D1 & D2 and a few hundreds in D3. I may admit that D3 is a game of higher quality in almost every aspect than PoE, but i cant explain why i like to play it more than D3. It has a certain feeling that i m missing from D3. I dont know exactly what, but it does makes me feel the way a rpg should.

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  • kairel182kairel182 SMD, RIMember UncommonPosts: 285
    That's not saying much.  EVERY ARPG on the market, especially it's predecessor D2, blows it away.
  • SquishydewSquishydew NetherlandsMember UncommonPosts: 1,107

    I honestly think the game is on par.

    Sure path of exile has way more content and things to do in general, and on top of that It's free and gets free expansions regularly, and did they ever fix the annoying desyncing?

     

    But It's camera angle is wonky, and diablo 3 runs way way better, and i often find that a smooth framerate and feel goes a long way to making a game more enjoyable.

     

    I honestly can't pick which one is better, but this is all a personal opinion ofcourse.

  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Columbus, OHMember RarePosts: 1,723
    Originally posted by kairel182
    That's not saying much.  EVERY ARPG on the market, especially it's predecessor D2, blows it away.

    Not even close, sorry. After playing D3 I can't go back to D2; it's like trading in a Ferrari for a Yugo. Take off those extra thick rose colored glasses.

    Gotta love how being able to cheat and DC instantly when you're about to die in HC 'makes it viable'. Should I remind people that D3 is no different than D2 in that respect? Also, I've also been killed during races due to the desync 'jumping' me into groups of mobs. It's not a feature, its a god damned bug that GGG can't fix because they'd have to completely redo most of their netcode. So they tout it as a 'feature' instead, which is about as dishonest as it gets.

    The game isn't bad at all, and it does do a number of things incredibly well. But it's an amateur effort, and it shows.

    Oh, and D3 has a relatively small but thriving HC community, in much the same way D2 did. Personally I think the bigger challenge for HC players to overcome are the oftimes incredibly cheesy enemy ability combinations for the rares and elites.

    Frozen, vortex, molten waller = Dead HC character unless the correct ability combinations to counter that are slotted. Very frustrating.

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  • boxsndboxsnd Kraxton, ARMember UncommonPosts: 438
    Originally posted by Solar_Prophet
    Originally posted by kairel182
    That's not saying much.  EVERY ARPG on the market, especially it's predecessor D2, blows it away.

    Not even close, sorry. After playing D3 I can't go back to D2; it's like trading in a Ferrari for a Yugo. Take off those extra thick rose colored glasses.

    Gotta love how being able to cheat and DC instantly when you're about to die in HC 'makes it viable'. Should I remind people that D3 is no different than D2 in that respect? Also, I've also been killed during races due to the desync 'jumping' me into groups of mobs. It's not a feature, its a god damned bug that GGG can't fix because they'd have to completely redo most of their netcode. So they tout it as a 'feature' instead, which is about as dishonest as it gets.

    The game isn't bad at all, and it does do a number of things incredibly well. But it's an amateur effort, and it shows.

    Oh, and D3 has a relatively small but thriving HC community, in much the same way D2 did. Personally I think the bigger challenge for HC players to overcome are the oftimes incredibly cheesy enemy ability combinations for the rares and elites.

    Frozen, vortex, molten waller = Dead HC character unless the correct ability combinations to counter that are slotted. Very frustrating.

    First off: Why are you talking about desync when we are talking about instant logout / disconnect detection? You realize those are two completely different things right? Instant logout is a feature, it makes the game more fast paced and allows hc players to take more risks. Overall it makes hc a lot more fun and the huge number of hc players in PoE shows that. Desync is just bad coding and it is irrelevant to the conversation.

    Second: Yes D2 also almost always killed you when you dc'ed near enemies. That's why HC players are/were only 4-5% of total players in both D2 and D3, while in PoE they are 30-40% and maybe more.

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  • MurlockDanceMurlockDance ParisMember Posts: 1,223
    Originally posted by boxsnd

    First off: Why are you talking about desync when we are talking about instant logout / disconnect detection? You realize those are two completely different things right? Instant logout is a feature, it makes the game more fast paced and allows hc players to take more risks. Overall it makes hc a lot more fun and the huge number of hc players in PoE shows that. Desync is just bad coding and it is irrelevant to the conversation. Second: Yes D2 also almost always killed you when you dc'ed near enemies. That's why HC players are/were only 4-5% of total players in both D2 and D3, while in PoE they are 30-40% and maybe more.

    Huh?? Being able to disconnect to avoid HC death looks to me like an exploit. HC means nothing if you can pull the plug before your character bites the dust: it completely removes the main challenge of HC. If you are so scared of losing a character permanently, just play softcore instead of doing something "cheat-y". I doubt seriously that this was an intentional "HC feature" of the game.

    In my view PoE's HC mode is not real HC since you can continue your character in softcore the first time he dies as if nothing happened. You have very little risk in PoE's version of HC.

    That is why I did not bother with PoE's HC and went instead with D3's version. There is a real bite if your character dies: you can never, ever play him again and all of his gear is lost. Fights can become extremely exciting in higher difficulties and for the right reason. No it is not for everyone.

     

    As for the desynch issue, it is a real bummer. D3 servers are very good though at times they can have lagspikes too when there is a big patch or some such. On the contrary, it is persistent in PoE and can make the game at times unplayable. There is no way to excuse it, it should be fixed. Period. If GGG fixed it, this game would totally rock and I would come back for a while. As it stands now, the desynch and other server problems completely override the positive aspects of the game for me.

    Such a shame.

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  • EldrachEldrach SandefjordMember UncommonPosts: 52

    This game is a great free to play game.  There are several reasons i don't like the game as much as D3.

     

    1. The environments are really boring, the only one that stands out is the Temple of the Sun, which is awesome.

    2. Instead of tweaking current skills to be more interesting, they just keep adding new ones. (yes, i know they are balancing them, but i think the skills could get a bit more love in terms of morphing abillities besides support gems and new particle efffects).

    3. The items are REALLY boring, due to the complicated sockets / support gem system..the actual stats on the items is so "general" that the items feels just ..Meeh.

    4. I hate vendor recipies, anything that in reality forces you out of the actual game to search for these hidden things was cool in 1999, but today it feels like a chore

    5. Upgrades that are not upgrades. You can get an awesome item with the wrong socket combo and never use it because you re-roll the sockets 150 times without result

    6 The lore, while not the Most important part of an aarpg, it still counts..and in PoE its just gibberish (yeah, they've tried to improve upon it, but it's as interesting as watching a chinese soap opera without subtitles).

    7. The mobs, also..boring.

    8. The map system was cool, but quickly became repetative.

    7. The inventory system is horrendous..you can talk as much about "hardcore" as you want, but the only thing their inventory accomplishes, is frustration.

    8. The passive skill tree is so bloated to feel "extensive" that it feels overwhelming and if you thread wrong when levling, you're mostly stuck with your choices unless you find an abudance of regret orbs.

     

  • boxsndboxsnd Kraxton, ARMember UncommonPosts: 438
    Originally posted by MurlockDance
    Originally posted by boxsnd

    First off: Why are you talking about desync when we are talking about instant logout / disconnect detection? You realize those are two completely different things right? Instant logout is a feature, it makes the game more fast paced and allows hc players to take more risks. Overall it makes hc a lot more fun and the huge number of hc players in PoE shows that. Desync is just bad coding and it is irrelevant to the conversation. Second: Yes D2 also almost always killed you when you dc'ed near enemies. That's why HC players are/were only 4-5% of total players in both D2 and D3, while in PoE they are 30-40% and maybe more.

    Huh?? Being able to disconnect to avoid HC death looks to me like an exploit. HC means nothing if you can pull the plug before your character bites the dust: it completely removes the main challenge of HC. If you are so scared of losing a character permanently, just play softcore instead of doing something "cheat-y". I doubt seriously that this was an intentional "HC feature" of the game.

    In my view PoE's HC mode is not real HC since you can continue your character in softcore the first time he dies as if nothing happened. You have very little risk in PoE's version of HC.

    That is why I did not bother with PoE's HC and went instead with D3's version. There is a real bite if your character dies: you can never, ever play him again and all of his gear is lost. Fights can become extremely exciting in higher difficulties and for the right reason. No it is not for everyone.

     

    As for the desynch issue, it is a real bummer. D3 servers are very good though at times they can have lagspikes too when there is a big patch or some such. On the contrary, it is persistent in PoE and can make the game at times unplayable. There is no way to excuse it, it should be fixed. Period. If GGG fixed it, this game would totally rock and I would come back for a while. As it stands now, the desynch and other server problems completely override the positive aspects of the game for me.

    Such a shame.

    In D2 you could also logout instantly which is exactly the same as alt-F4ing. So is D2's HC also not real?

     

    No HC player continues playing their dead HC char in softcore. Most of us either instantly delete them or (if very high level) keep them for future experimenting / testing builds since every few months we get full respecs. I think it's a nice feature targeted mainly to softcore players who want to try their luck in hardcore. I know it has converted a lot of people from sc to hc.

     

    About D3: Let's not forget that for a long time you could actually ressurect your dead D3 hc char if you told blizzard that you were hacked. And then there is the whole D3 not being challenging issue. I don't see how someone can claim that D3 is more hardcore than PoE with a straight face.

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  • TalRashaTalRasha GroningenMember UncommonPosts: 827

    D3 has really nice graphics, animations, and the combat feels nice.

    It is also very boring. Where you could put in thousands of hours in D2, you will be burned out in D3 within 100 hours.

    In that, PoE is more like D2.

    Someone else said it before in this thread. D3 has the polish, PoE has the substance.

  • perran7691perran7691 Northbridge, MAMember UncommonPosts: 34
    With the release of the next gen console versions of D3:UEE and the ability to play with your friends local co-op D3 has hit it's stride. The smooth framerate, 1080p and controls (which btw work incredibly well). It's freaking amazing sitting on the couch playing UEE on a 55" tv and drinking some beers with friends. This to me is what separates D3:UEE from POE.
  • ZezdaZezda Member UncommonPosts: 686
    Originally posted by perran7691
    With the release of the next gen console versions of D3:UEE and the ability to play with your friends local co-op D3 has hit it's stride. The smooth framerate, 1080p and controls (which btw work incredibly well). It's freaking amazing sitting on the couch playing UEE on a 55" tv and drinking some beers with friends. This to me is what separates D3:UEE from POE.

    To be fair I don't think PoE is aimed at those who want to sit back and play on their TV with some friends a some beers.

  • sumdumguy1sumdumguy1 A galaxy far far awayMember UncommonPosts: 1,142
    What I find funny is that everyone says that yet so many more people play D3.  I played POE for awhile, I liked it but had some issues.  I also played D3 for awhile as well.  ( I also came back to both on and off and still do as I like both games) The population on D3 is always strong and groups are incredibly easy to find and get into.  When I play POE, the population is much less.  Understand I am not trying to put down either game, but I am trying to wrap my head around why almost everyone says POE is better yet it seems like so many more play D3.  I get the bigger company and marketing strength of blizzard, but gamers usually flock to the better game, just haven't see that here.
  • jesteralwaysjesteralways BangladeshMember RarePosts: 2,560
    Yes it blows away D3 : with massive lag spikes, pay2win game system, disgusting grinding, bad storyline and ..well i have lost count. 

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  • markh777markh777 Rutland, VTMember UncommonPosts: 144
    Jester...you are a dolt...there is no pay to win here as cash shop is cosmetic only...so explain that plz??
  • ThaneThane berlinMember RarePosts: 2,786
    Originally posted by Redcor
    Well, I like the fact that is hard to grasp. (PC games should be more complex than others) I find the loot system much more interesting than D3, I work for gear rather than buy it. And on my system with a gtx 680 it looks nicer than D3 on max setting to me. Maybe its the art style and the attention to detail but it looks better to me. The huge build options are what push it over the edge in my opinion. I am still on rout to max level but so far I am impressed.

    errrrrm if you don't like the customization possibilites, i don't really see where you come from here.

    that's where PoE truely shines, and THAT is most likely the main point for saying "it's better than d3, huehuehue"

     

    if you think PoE has a better gfx engine, i gotta tell you, it does not.

    d3's gfx engine TOTALY rocks and that's not even a personal opinion but plain and simple a fact.

     

     

    Originally posted by jesteralways
    Yes it blows away D3 : with massive lag spikes, pay2win game system, disgusting grinding, bad storyline and ..well i have lost count. 

    and how the hell is PoE pay to win? because you can buy skins?

    seriously, i suggest you stop throwing terms around, unless you know what they mean....

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  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,845
    Originally posted by jesteralways
    Yes it blows away D3 : with massive lag spikes, pay2win game system, disgusting grinding, bad storyline and ..well i have lost count. 

    Sometimes people just make it painfully obvious they never even played/tried the games that they bash.

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  • LugorsLugors EarthMember UncommonPosts: 184
    I was glad Path of Exile was a free to play game because I would have regretted the purchase.  I know the trendy thing is to hate on Blizzard, but I really enjoyed D1, 2 and 3.  I just couldn't get into Path of Exile.  I've tried it 3 times now, and could not log more than an hour total.  I can't quite figure out what it is that makes me dislike it, but D3 and Marvel Heroes capture my attention far more than this one could.
  • LuciousVictisLuciousVictis New York, NYMember CommonPosts: 123
    Originally posted by Thane
    Originally posted by Redcor
    Well, I like the fact that is hard to grasp. (PC games should be more complex than others) I find the loot system much more interesting than D3, I work for gear rather than buy it. And on my system with a gtx 680 it looks nicer than D3 on max setting to me. Maybe its the art style and the attention to detail but it looks better to me. The huge build options are what push it over the edge in my opinion. I am still on rout to max level but so far I am impressed.

    errrrrm if you don't like the customization possibilites, i don't really see where you come from here.

    that's where PoE truely shines, and THAT is most likely the main point for saying "it's better than d3, huehuehue"

     

    if you think PoE has a better gfx engine, i gotta tell you, it does not.

    d3's gfx engine TOTALY rocks and that's not even a personal opinion but plain and simple a fact.

     

     

    Originally posted by jesteralways
    Yes it blows away D3 : with massive lag spikes, pay2win game system, disgusting grinding, bad storyline and ..well i have lost count. 

    and how the hell is PoE pay to win? because you can buy skins?

    seriously, i suggest you stop throwing terms around, unless you know what they mean....

    POE is the real D3, end of the story. D3 has nothing to do with D2 other than maybe lore but i couldnt care less about that. D3 doesnt have terrible graphics, it is very artsy, creative but POE capture the same feel and atmosphere we had in D2, which in my opinion is much better. Not only is poe much more complex, deep with endless customization but it has better setting and graphics than D3.

    Blizzard fanboy will defend this game to death. Imo, i cant stand these kids graphics and how casual the overall game feels. I didnt regret buying D3 but i didnt play it more than my first run.

    GGG came out with sooo many amazing new idea with this game, its insane. Just imagine how great it would have been with bigger budget, maybe they could have fixed this god awefull desync and lag issues.

    I didnt play poe for that many months but i totally agree with the op.

    So much respect for GGG, really. 

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