Originally posted by drakaena Whatever upcoming changes XLGames announces are going to make or break ArcheAge. In its current state it cannot survive. Fingers crossed Jake Song wakes up and redirects AA back to his original vision of a modernized UO. This game cannot last as a hybrid - appeal to everyone - lowest common denominator. They need to go all in with sandbox and meaningful open world PvP with consequences.
Jake Song jumped from the ship long long time ago and after that is started sinking.
So I just did a search about who is the CEO of XL games and I still see Jake Song as the CEO. In fact he just did a interview for their upcoming game civilization online as a XL employee. Please link me the info that he has left, I've searched and I don't see it.
The image and source doesn't even claim its "people" but states its hours. Its a weekly playtime sample from various game caffees just like your source is based on.
Only the OP who couldnt even read his information claimed its player.
With Korea being a mostly free to play mmo territory I think thats the way they rank their games by hours because you cant really go by subs. I would like to see the same method used here in the West now since free to play has pretty much taken over. I am still suprised to see ArcheAge ahead of games like Lineage 2, Dota 2 and World Of Warcraft.
If WoW has 70k players in Korea, so would has 9,8 milion players in the world.
If Archeage has 30k players in Korea, would has 4,2 milion worldwide.
That's if you are willing to believe that 392 million people worldwide plays LoL...
As said, is a very very rough calculation. LoL in Korea is disproportionately popular, almost a "national sport", being televised with millions of viewers.
Don't forget ppl play not only from internet cafe, and archeage is pretty solid in Japan. So it not sinking yet. Determination time would be release in China.
Players run bots in LoL and it is free to play and other players have multiple accounts. Trying to actually gauge the number of players who play that game is impossible.
They will get alot from russian market. Game is huge hit here with thousands of very vocal fans. The most anticipated MMORPG in Russia for sure. Publisher did a great job with translation and payment model, so it can only succeed here
internet café play has been dropping in Korea since the new laws took effect. Cafés no longer allow people to binge play since a café can now be shut down (with the owner going to prison) if anyone binge plays and ends up dying, which happens a little too often there.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
It's already been known it isn't doing very well in Korea - fanbois can try to spin it how they want but it's just reality. Maybe it will do better here, who knows, people are aching for something different and original. I think Black Desert is going to be the main game to watch from overseas but ArcheAge could still do well here.
Actually i find the list is quite informative. If it was like, say, number 5, then maybe i would want to know what the first 4 games are, but its number 20, and the population playing it is 0.45%, does it really matter what the other 19 games are?
How can it be informative without the context of these numbers?
The fact that half of those games I have never heard of and others are MOBA and non MMORPGs I can't really take this list that serious....
There are several quotes by Jake Song saying he designed the game with a Western audience in mind. Combine that with some bad design changes ( now recognized and being fixed ) and its little wonder why its doing poorly in S. Korea.
Given that, I cant see how this will have a lot of bearing on how well it does in the States.
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He did not leave xlgames he left archeage.
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ArcheAge is currently at #14 in Korea. This game has way more then 30,000 people playing.
http://www.gamemeca.com/popup/ranking.php?scode=O
With Korea being a mostly free to play mmo territory I think thats the way they rank their games by hours because you cant really go by subs. I would like to see the same method used here in the West now since free to play has pretty much taken over. I am still suprised to see ArcheAge ahead of games like Lineage 2, Dota 2 and World Of Warcraft.
Glad somebody else also explained that 30,000 refers to hours played rather than player numbers . . .
although I did explain on page 2 . . .
That's if you are willing to believe that 392 million people worldwide plays LoL...
As said, is a very very rough calculation. LoL in Korea is disproportionately popular, almost a "national sport", being televised with millions of viewers.
Players run bots in LoL and it is free to play and other players have multiple accounts. Trying to actually gauge the number of players who play that game is impossible.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
The fact that half of those games I have never heard of and others are MOBA and non MMORPGs I can't really take this list that serious....
There are several quotes by Jake Song saying he designed the game with a Western audience in mind. Combine that with some bad design changes ( now recognized and being fixed ) and its little wonder why its doing poorly in S. Korea.
Given that, I cant see how this will have a lot of bearing on how well it does in the States.