Originally posted by Atadis Well technically good sir, research has proven that the electrical signals sent to the brain during sexual engagement are linked to the Hypothalamus neurons which engage aggression...I dunno what rock you've come out of but sex and violence are very much related, more than you think.
Studies also show that imagining something and dreaming about something is indistinguishable from actually doing something, based on how well we can read information from a brain. Most sane people can tell the difference between imagining something and doing something. There is a large gap between "some neurons fire" and "sex and violence are related".
I don't know what rock you read that under, but sex and violence generally only co-exist in the minds of unstable people.
I don't think that's what he was trying to say. The reaction our body has to violence is very similar to the reaction it has to sex. The fight or flight stimulus is very similar to arousal.
The actual thought and processing of the two in the higher brain functions is nothing alike but how they get triggered and what goes on inside once they are isn't all the different.
I don't mind sex in games as part of a story. It plays an interesting role in some story lines, like the Witcher series. Imagine a Game of Thrones MMO without sex. But it would be difficult and rather creepy when other RL players are involved.
That being said, I feel a bit differently about nudity. I thought toplessness was appropriate for the world of Conan, just as it would be if you made an MMO based on Gor. And despite your possible categorizing of me as an objectifying, misogynist, you will never find my name on an anti-jiggle physics petition.
More interesting to me is the constant return to this topic. The views are always the same. That's fine. I usually agree with them. But they are always the same views, every time. Why do it over and over? Is it just so that "SEX & MMOs" will show up in search engines?
While it may be difficult to imagine how it could work out, sex is at least as natural as violence, and we have plenty of that, so why not? It's all just a matter of how it's done.
Also, there are a lot of stories, both real and fictional that feature sex. Take Game of Thrones, which features quite a lot of it, both in the books and in the series. And we usually only think about the one that is shown or mentioned. Bloodlines, houses, heirs..all huge focal points of the story, which are related to sex, without explicitly naming it.
Dune took it even a step further, where the Bene Gesserit could control the gender of the child they would bear, or imprint people through sex, making them favorable towards the order. I think they could even poison others while doing so, given that they are able to control their body chemistry.
So we have several great works where sex is quite important to the story,. And we have sex in literally every medium, whether it's books, paintings, music, movies, games..but it's somehow impossible to make it work in MMOs?
It's not like you have to give players control when it happens, but why not, when you can animate the smirk in the players face when he draws the sword out of his opponents body, accompanied by a huge gush of blood? Why is that okay, but sex is best left out completely, and if you feel compelled to include it, best show a black screen for 2 seconds after clicking "yes" and return to where you were?
I also think that it will inevitably turn up more often as technology advances. On one hand, we will get even more realistic animations, soon companies will focus on the actual interaction, so you can scoop water, or pluck grass - or lift your helmet off. On the other hand we have advances in virtual reality technology like Oculus Rift. And once your character lifts of his helmet when you yourself lift your hands to your head..
I'll wait to the day's end when the moon is high And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life, I'll Amass an army, and we'll harness a horde And then we'll limp across the land until we stand at the shore
In my opinion there's a huge difference between sexy and failed attempts that just come off looking tacky.
As far as MMOs go, I see little of one and huge amounts of the other.
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Theres little doubt that when I see sex in a MMO today it is simply to lure the target audience (young males) to the game......It really brings nothing to the table other than that.......You can look at many of the oens that have a scantilly clad young woman advertising the game and realize that sex has nothing to do with the game......Games like Evony, Wartune, and many otehrs use sex constantly to try and get users.....Unfortunately it works on too many people......
Just look at a game lik Scarlet Blade....An utter crap game but it promotes sex big time.....Had they not shown practically naked women in their ads would anyone here have even given it a sniff?...>As long as it works these companies will do it......Just look at the world around us....You dont have to look any further than the music and entertainment business to see sex constantly promoted......
I always find the articles about sex on this site amusing. Not only are the articles an obvious attempt at getting more clicks/views by discussing sex, but the their entire add revenue streams is basically adds that sell games with sex. If you are going to stand up against something, practice what you preach. Hypocrites.
More on topic. I believe there was a rule set and classes made up for D&D that used sex. While I am not aware of the specifics, I don't think it is impossible to do in a good way, it's just easier to do it in a shallow way which is what most games do. Sex is used to sell everything today not just games. If you don't like it you should probably move to a deserted island. People like to look sexy, and they also like to look at sexy. The whole purpose of fantasy is to get away from the real world. You don't want to play a game to see the same fat ugly people you see everyday in your real life.
We're getting dangerously close to rape mechanics. Soon other players will be able to group up against you and hold your character down and then.
Eventually the line between games and porn wont exist.
You mean like the difference between video games violence and real violence doesn't exist?
Only unstable people (to put it mildly) can't tell the difference in the former and I bet the same will be true if the later ever come to pass.
On a separate note, nothing prevents a game from being sensual instead of merely sexual. Anarchy Online had a class that wore tattoo as armor. Also, in terms of not using killing as the only means of progression, most of the games that give the alternative are applauded as not being so one dimensional as everything else.
as an old friend mentioned in passing to me about 3 months into the launch of SWG:
"Where are all the children?"
and he was right, there wasn't a single child in the entire galaxy. and i responded with:
"And if you read everyone's bios they're all orphans."
"There are at least two kinds of games. One could be called finite, the other infinite. A finite game is played for the purpose of winning, an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play." Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
"But looks silly if you force people to engage in sex to level up or otherwise win a skirmish."
I don't agree, we want something new in MMOs, this is new. As I don't play MMOs at launch that will allow me to see if players think they are looking like idiots or not. I will not come early that's for sure.
So what we are being told by the moral high ground having writer is that since they cannot fathom a situation where sex in a game is OK, we should all stay in this nice little box created by their minds.
Why does a game have to have sex as the focus just for having it in it? Why do we have to have sex with a boss, or something we are fighting in order to have sex IN the game?
Such a closed minded article, which is expected because its about sex, and most people have such boring ass sex lives they cannot fathom it being remotely fun in any way.
Others however can imagine a game where sex is just part of it, much like in life. A game where two players can have it, one gets pregnant, has a child and that child becomes a playable character (or make it twins so both players get one)...and not just games where we go around humping everything in sight like some porn game.
"Aside from titillation, it serves little purpose other than as a means to sell people on a game. There are better ways to sell a game, and one of those is by simply making your game worth playing."
An idea to play a game in a role of "tentacle monster" and rape girls different ways for points and loot, might be exiting... not sure if Japans already made one or not yet.
In whole, negative articles about sex in computer games are very boring. Because too many people enjoy watching sex and porn, so they might like same in computer games. It all depends on design.
Sex in MMOs is always a "hot" topic. In our latest Devil's Advocate, we tackle the subject with some interesting thoughts. See what we think before heading to the comments to add your own.
In my mind, sex as a sort of gameplay mechanic does not exactly make sense in the MMO world, not simply because of how it would play out, but because how would you reward such conduct in a game?
It may POSSIBLY work if you’re some kind of anime tentacle monster and your sworn racial enemies are scantily clad women who don’t know how to wear metal plated armor to cover their privates, but looks silly if you force people to engage in sex to level up or otherwise win a skirmish.
I have nothing against such things - just make the game rated M, or such offerings the M part of the game whereby the game should have some legit way of knowing the age of the player (good luck with that).
There are more important things on my mind in this genre, however. Like, when will something fun be created? Something where my enemies are actually different than the folks in my guild. Something with variety and in depth development. Dreaming of course. Until then it's the armada of cash shop free to play grinders where pvp is about a flag.
I suppose somewhere there may be a culture where games not based on warfare -- be they abstractions like Go and Chess or more explicit war or rpg games - are not the favorite pass-time. But I don't know where that is.
Sexualization of MMORPGs to me make about as much sense as lingerie football - sure, it's good for a chuckle and a nudge and a wink but does anyone take that shit seriously compared to the real thing?
The inclusion of sex in MMOs may confuse those who want something so lifelike that they'd welcome the need to empty their bladders and void their bowels for ultimate realism. Sex is just another box to tick for them.
I play these types of games to simulate a combat experience using fantastic medieval or sci-fi settings. Things like eating, pissing, shitting and screwing are not necessary components for my enjoyment. Yes, I do all those things in real life, but I'm not looking for a life simulator in an MMO - just a fun conflict simulation... a high tech version of the same types of games we've been playing for a few thousand years.
Sex in MMOs just screams "gimmick" to me.
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Sex is part of the life, so why againts when appears in game?
in my perspective killing is more serious matter than see naked pixel bodies in game.
The funny thing is, the media always pick up this: people go rape because see naked body in videogame...people kill someone because they see in game... blah blah
and i just waiting when the "greens" going to blame videogames too, because of super Mario jump on turtles, throw flame on "fly cachers" -> this is why the rain forrests are burned...
I'm getting really tired of video game journalists who have a stick up their butt about the female body in video games. I'm sorry, but the rest of the world doesn't get all angry about breasts. The only reason you continue to write articles like this is because you know people will read it and get angry about your ridiculous ideas on sexuality and take the time to respond. You even got me to.
"Because this is the new generation of professionals, they’ve begun taking over the journalism side of gaming. They report on what people are offended with, they create the fake outrage, and then post it. Then when they receive a barrage of comments on how people should lighten up and not take things so seriously, these journalists will take to the various social media and comment on how abhorrent people are not offended as they are or at least try to to be. Immediately that creates the guilt to the readers who again, bend over backwards to not be offensive."
I just want to post a SnipIt Screenshot I took while surfing the net. Getting codes from CheatCC yielded this lovely illustration. It had the horrid "WarTune Male Gamers Only" Peterfest advertisement, right next to a few articles entitled, "Top 10 Controversial Video Game Women", "Feminism in Games is a Double-Edged Sword", and my very favorite title, "Sexism In Gaming is Dead". Meanwhile, there's a buxom half dressed woman inviting "Men Only" to come and play. Here it is:
Wartune Warning: Once you're inside, your friends won't be seeing much of you. That's because their posted at their monitor in a dark room jacking it to your avatar like your jacking it to their avatar.
What I would like to know, honestly, is why is this okay? Not from the "objectification" side of it (which I feel), but the common sense side of it. Why would Male gamers want to play a game where there are supposed to be ONLY other male gamers playing as sexy women? As a gay man, I cannot say how utterly homo that sounds to me. Yet, because I want to play as a woman in other MMO's, that isn't half the skank Wartune or Scarlet Blade is, it's an issue for the insecure and witchhunt claiming I'm playing a chick to get men. The people in this world are so braindead and most of them wouldn't even be good enough to start a fire with (see person's comment below).
It's such a double standard, it'd piss me off more if I didn't think that some of the very-closeted males playing Wartune and the like are OKAY knowing it's other men playing and acting "sexy".
Matryoshka- "I'm getting really tired of video game journalists who have a stick up their butt about the female body in video games." To be fair, we're getting really tired of idiot males, like yourself and many above and around, dismissing the issues at hand. If you are hearing it everywhere, it's because everywhere is noticing it, and trying to make a change. For the better. You'd have to be some kind of uneducated nudnick to think that people are ONLY upset about the way the female body is represented in games. That is one layer of the argument. The other layer is what they DO with said bodies. Another layer is that, in games like GTA, women are literally objects. You don't play as them, you just pick them up for sex, or take them out on a date. That, my friend, is turning another human being into purely an object to use. We are treating our mothers, sisters and daughters like this (in video games, which is a reflection of our everyday, real-life Human Society), and it isn't bothering the average male. That's a serious problem. I hope you have a daughter, and will one day have to learn what it's like for her to be objectified- maybe when she's crying because the only job her uneducated tail can get is "Hooters"... maybe then you'll change your (lack of critical) thinking. Or, you can go really creepy and bring your friends to see your daughter at work (it's creepy, but it happens). You have now been educated (as much as someone with the sagacity you have can). No need to thank me- I already know. Pass the useful information around, and if you can't, keep they useless information in your mouth- nobody needs to hear it.
Worst Online Communities: WoW/WoD(the OG MMO Trolls), DayZ/WarZ, SMITE/LoL/DOTA, EVE Online, APB "Im ready for All the comparisons I think its dumb and its embarrassing Im switching off No longer listening Ive had enough of persecution and conditioning Maybe its instinct- Were only animal" - Lily Allen, Sheezus
@JasonJ: "most people have such boring ass sex lives they cannot fathom it being remotely fun in any way." I can say, personally, I have a very fun sex life. I am open about my sexuality, fantasies and fetishes, and I have been lucky enough to act out everything I ever wanted multiple times with different people. Hell, even some of the things I didn't think I'd be into has now become it's own form of foreplay for me. Sex in Video Games is along the lines of what you said, but reversed. I think only people with really boring (or no) sex life are the ones that really want to see more sex in video games. I mean, there's sex in Music, sex in Disney.. hell, Google Images even has sex. Why, now, does sex have to be shoved down our throats (pun fully intended) when all we want to do is play a game with a good storyline and gameplay mechanics? I can't see "Mash X to grind and Y to twerk" as an appealing gameplay mechanic (like that sordid GTA:SA minigame... just weird) Maybe if they found a way for the sex to be organic to the story, it'd be all right. But if the selling point is "I can have sex in this game", it's about as useless as a new Call of Duty.
Worst Online Communities: WoW/WoD(the OG MMO Trolls), DayZ/WarZ, SMITE/LoL/DOTA, EVE Online, APB "Im ready for All the comparisons I think its dumb and its embarrassing Im switching off No longer listening Ive had enough of persecution and conditioning Maybe its instinct- Were only animal" - Lily Allen, Sheezus
We're getting dangerously close to rape mechanics. Soon other players will be able to group up against you and hold your character down and then.
That kind of "gameplay" has been around for years in a couple MMOs.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
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I don't think that's what he was trying to say. The reaction our body has to violence is very similar to the reaction it has to sex. The fight or flight stimulus is very similar to arousal.
The actual thought and processing of the two in the higher brain functions is nothing alike but how they get triggered and what goes on inside once they are isn't all the different.
I don't mind sex in games as part of a story. It plays an interesting role in some story lines, like the Witcher series. Imagine a Game of Thrones MMO without sex. But it would be difficult and rather creepy when other RL players are involved.
That being said, I feel a bit differently about nudity. I thought toplessness was appropriate for the world of Conan, just as it would be if you made an MMO based on Gor. And despite your possible categorizing of me as an objectifying, misogynist, you will never find my name on an anti-jiggle physics petition.
More interesting to me is the constant return to this topic. The views are always the same. That's fine. I usually agree with them. But they are always the same views, every time. Why do it over and over? Is it just so that "SEX & MMOs" will show up in search engines?
While it may be difficult to imagine how it could work out, sex is at least as natural as violence, and we have plenty of that, so why not? It's all just a matter of how it's done.
Also, there are a lot of stories, both real and fictional that feature sex. Take Game of Thrones, which features quite a lot of it, both in the books and in the series. And we usually only think about the one that is shown or mentioned. Bloodlines, houses, heirs..all huge focal points of the story, which are related to sex, without explicitly naming it.
Dune took it even a step further, where the Bene Gesserit could control the gender of the child they would bear, or imprint people through sex, making them favorable towards the order. I think they could even poison others while doing so, given that they are able to control their body chemistry.
So we have several great works where sex is quite important to the story,. And we have sex in literally every medium, whether it's books, paintings, music, movies, games..but it's somehow impossible to make it work in MMOs?
It's not like you have to give players control when it happens, but why not, when you can animate the smirk in the players face when he draws the sword out of his opponents body, accompanied by a huge gush of blood? Why is that okay, but sex is best left out completely, and if you feel compelled to include it, best show a black screen for 2 seconds after clicking "yes" and return to where you were?
I also think that it will inevitably turn up more often as technology advances. On one hand, we will get even more realistic animations, soon companies will focus on the actual interaction, so you can scoop water, or pluck grass - or lift your helmet off. On the other hand we have advances in virtual reality technology like Oculus Rift. And once your character lifts of his helmet when you yourself lift your hands to your head..
I'll wait to the day's end when the moon is high
And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life, I'll
Amass an army, and we'll harness a horde
And then we'll limp across the land until we stand at the shore
In my opinion there's a huge difference between sexy and failed attempts that just come off looking tacky.
As far as MMOs go, I see little of one and huge amounts of the other.
Theres little doubt that when I see sex in a MMO today it is simply to lure the target audience (young males) to the game......It really brings nothing to the table other than that.......You can look at many of the oens that have a scantilly clad young woman advertising the game and realize that sex has nothing to do with the game......Games like Evony, Wartune, and many otehrs use sex constantly to try and get users.....Unfortunately it works on too many people......
Just look at a game lik Scarlet Blade....An utter crap game but it promotes sex big time.....Had they not shown practically naked women in their ads would anyone here have even given it a sniff?...>As long as it works these companies will do it......Just look at the world around us....You dont have to look any further than the music and entertainment business to see sex constantly promoted......
We're getting dangerously close to rape mechanics. Soon other players will be able to group up against you and hold your character down and then.
Eventually the line between games and porn wont exist.
I always find the articles about sex on this site amusing. Not only are the articles an obvious attempt at getting more clicks/views by discussing sex, but the their entire add revenue streams is basically adds that sell games with sex. If you are going to stand up against something, practice what you preach. Hypocrites.
More on topic. I believe there was a rule set and classes made up for D&D that used sex. While I am not aware of the specifics, I don't think it is impossible to do in a good way, it's just easier to do it in a shallow way which is what most games do. Sex is used to sell everything today not just games. If you don't like it you should probably move to a deserted island. People like to look sexy, and they also like to look at sexy. The whole purpose of fantasy is to get away from the real world. You don't want to play a game to see the same fat ugly people you see everyday in your real life.
You mean like the difference between video games violence and real violence doesn't exist?
Only unstable people (to put it mildly) can't tell the difference in the former and I bet the same will be true if the later ever come to pass.
On a separate note, nothing prevents a game from being sensual instead of merely sexual. Anarchy Online had a class that wore tattoo as armor. Also, in terms of not using killing as the only means of progression, most of the games that give the alternative are applauded as not being so one dimensional as everything else.
as an old friend mentioned in passing to me about 3 months into the launch of SWG:
"Where are all the children?"
and he was right, there wasn't a single child in the entire galaxy. and i responded with:
"And if you read everyone's bios they're all orphans."
"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse
"But looks silly if you force people to engage in sex to level up or otherwise win a skirmish."
I don't agree, we want something new in MMOs, this is new. As I don't play MMOs at launch that will allow me to see if players think they are looking like idiots or not. I will not come early that's for sure.
So what we are being told by the moral high ground having writer is that since they cannot fathom a situation where sex in a game is OK, we should all stay in this nice little box created by their minds.
Why does a game have to have sex as the focus just for having it in it? Why do we have to have sex with a boss, or something we are fighting in order to have sex IN the game?
Such a closed minded article, which is expected because its about sex, and most people have such boring ass sex lives they cannot fathom it being remotely fun in any way.
Others however can imagine a game where sex is just part of it, much like in life. A game where two players can have it, one gets pregnant, has a child and that child becomes a playable character (or make it twins so both players get one)...and not just games where we go around humping everything in sight like some porn game.
"Aside from titillation, it serves little purpose other than as a means to sell people on a game. There are better ways to sell a game, and one of those is by simply making your game worth playing."
An idea to play a game in a role of "tentacle monster" and rape girls different ways for points and loot, might be exiting... not sure if Japans already made one or not yet.
In whole, negative articles about sex in computer games are very boring. Because too many people enjoy watching sex and porn, so they might like same in computer games. It all depends on design.
as i read some of the replies to this article it has become clear to me why I about given up on this site.
I have nothing against such things - just make the game rated M, or such offerings the M part of the game whereby the game should have some legit way of knowing the age of the player (good luck with that).
There are more important things on my mind in this genre, however. Like, when will something fun be created? Something where my enemies are actually different than the folks in my guild. Something with variety and in depth development. Dreaming of course. Until then it's the armada of cash shop free to play grinders where pvp is about a flag.
sigh.
it would have made perfect sense in the Conan Lore. But some other games just.... ugh...
I suppose somewhere there may be a culture where games not based on warfare -- be they abstractions like Go and Chess or more explicit war or rpg games - are not the favorite pass-time. But I don't know where that is.
Sexualization of MMORPGs to me make about as much sense as lingerie football - sure, it's good for a chuckle and a nudge and a wink but does anyone take that shit seriously compared to the real thing?
The inclusion of sex in MMOs may confuse those who want something so lifelike that they'd welcome the need to empty their bladders and void their bowels for ultimate realism. Sex is just another box to tick for them.
I play these types of games to simulate a combat experience using fantastic medieval or sci-fi settings. Things like eating, pissing, shitting and screwing are not necessary components for my enjoyment. Yes, I do all those things in real life, but I'm not looking for a life simulator in an MMO - just a fun conflict simulation... a high tech version of the same types of games we've been playing for a few thousand years.
Sex in MMOs just screams "gimmick" to me.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Whoosh!
Sex is part of the life, so why againts when appears in game?
in my perspective killing is more serious matter than see naked pixel bodies in game.
The funny thing is, the media always pick up this: people go rape because see naked body in videogame...people kill someone because they see in game... blah blah
and i just waiting when the "greens" going to blame videogames too, because of super Mario jump on turtles, throw flame on "fly cachers" -> this is why the rain forrests are burned...
I just want to post a SnipIt Screenshot I took while surfing the net. Getting codes from CheatCC yielded this lovely illustration. It had the horrid "WarTune Male Gamers Only" Peterfest advertisement, right next to a few articles entitled, "Top 10 Controversial Video Game Women", "Feminism in Games is a Double-Edged Sword", and my very favorite title, "Sexism In Gaming is Dead". Meanwhile, there's a buxom half dressed woman inviting "Men Only" to come and play. Here it is:
Wartune Warning: Once you're inside, your friends won't be seeing much of you. That's because their posted at their monitor in a dark room jacking it to your avatar like your jacking it to their avatar.
What I would like to know, honestly, is why is this okay? Not from the "objectification" side of it (which I feel), but the common sense side of it. Why would Male gamers want to play a game where there are supposed to be ONLY other male gamers playing as sexy women? As a gay man, I cannot say how utterly homo that sounds to me. Yet, because I want to play as a woman in other MMO's, that isn't half the skank Wartune or Scarlet Blade is, it's an issue for the insecure and witchhunt claiming I'm playing a chick to get men. The people in this world are so braindead and most of them wouldn't even be good enough to start a fire with (see person's comment below).
It's such a double standard, it'd piss me off more if I didn't think that some of the very-closeted males playing Wartune and the like are OKAY knowing it's other men playing and acting "sexy".
Matryoshka- "I'm getting really tired of video game journalists who have a stick up their butt about the female body in video games." To be fair, we're getting really tired of idiot males, like yourself and many above and around, dismissing the issues at hand. If you are hearing it everywhere, it's because everywhere is noticing it, and trying to make a change. For the better. You'd have to be some kind of uneducated nudnick to think that people are ONLY upset about the way the female body is represented in games. That is one layer of the argument. The other layer is what they DO with said bodies. Another layer is that, in games like GTA, women are literally objects. You don't play as them, you just pick them up for sex, or take them out on a date. That, my friend, is turning another human being into purely an object to use. We are treating our mothers, sisters and daughters like this (in video games, which is a reflection of our everyday, real-life Human Society), and it isn't bothering the average male. That's a serious problem. I hope you have a daughter, and will one day have to learn what it's like for her to be objectified- maybe when she's crying because the only job her uneducated tail can get is "Hooters"... maybe then you'll change your (lack of critical) thinking. Or, you can go really creepy and bring your friends to see your daughter at work (it's creepy, but it happens). You have now been educated (as much as someone with the sagacity you have can). No need to thank me- I already know. Pass the useful information around, and if you can't, keep they useless information in your mouth- nobody needs to hear it.
Loves: SMITE, WildStar, Project Zomboid, PSO2, DCUO,
Worst Online Communities: WoW/WoD(the OG MMO Trolls), DayZ/WarZ, SMITE/LoL/DOTA, EVE Online, APB
"Im ready for
All the comparisons
I think its dumb and its embarrassing
Im switching off
No longer listening
Ive had enough of persecution and conditioning
Maybe its instinct- Were only animal" - Lily Allen, Sheezus
Loves: SMITE, WildStar, Project Zomboid, PSO2, DCUO,
Worst Online Communities: WoW/WoD(the OG MMO Trolls), DayZ/WarZ, SMITE/LoL/DOTA, EVE Online, APB
"Im ready for
All the comparisons
I think its dumb and its embarrassing
Im switching off
No longer listening
Ive had enough of persecution and conditioning
Maybe its instinct- Were only animal" - Lily Allen, Sheezus
That kind of "gameplay" has been around for years in a couple MMOs.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre