Is endgame right now just speed rushing dungeons?

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  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORMember UncommonPosts: 5,614


    Originally posted by Ridelynn
    CM is really good at it's point in time of the storyline. It is a great leadup to the Ultima Weapon fight.It's an utterly horrible design decision to make that the one of the few ways to obtain Tomes.Sure, there are other ways to get Tomes, Praet drops 100, AK 80, WP 50, all Lvl 40+ dungeons drop around 10 or so... but you need a lot of Tomes.... a lot of them.The full Darklite set a bit more than 4,500 tomes - but that isn't absolutely required, you could just get your 900 tomes for Relic and then get Coil attuned. But right now, it's either farm Tomes for Darklite, or farm Tomes for crafting material to make the iLvl 70 stuff - which is a lot fewer tomes, but ends up costing a lot more gil (or time, if you chose to farm/craft it yourself).Until we get Crystal Palace, which drops iLvl 80 gear, or the cap is lifted on Myths, there isn't really any choice but to farm a lot of tomes, farm gil (which really is difficult right now) or really push crafting hard. So most people are choosing to farm tomes, and right now, that means running AK until you cap on Myths, then steamrolling CM until you puke because Praet takes longer and nothing else comes close to offering as many tomes per unit time.After all, you only need around 5,500 Tomes to get all your gear and be ready for Coil... that's only 55 runs through CM if your looking for the most time efficent means to do so. By the time you've finished that many runs in CM, you probably will know where the searchlights are.Poor decision on S/E - because the dungeon really is a good storyline mechanic, but it's being abused to farm tomes because there aren't a lot of other good alternatives. Rather similar to FATEs, which are being abused for XP because there aren't a lot of other good alternatives. And it's a shame that it forces players on their first run, where they should be all "WOW COOL" and taking in the story, to get pushed by a bunch of grumpy players who are getting carpal tunnel from slamming the ESC key over and over on all 11 of the damn cutscenes just trying to get their 14 runs in for the day so they can afford their chestpiece.
    Yeesh that sounds awful haha. I will not be participating in that aspect of endgame.
  • KyleranKyleran Paradise City, FLMember LegendaryPosts: 26,232
    Originally posted by Hyanmen
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Thank you, your post confirmed in several ways why this title isn't one I would enjoy.  

    Yet you keep coming here. Not that I don't believe you, but you seem to need a lot of reasons to not enjoy this game before letting go!

    Just because I don't play a particular MMORPG doesn't mean I don't have an interest in the topics (especially on newer titles) nor wish to weigh in with my comments on them.

    Isn't the official forums somewhere over there maybe? ------>

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  • LizardEgyptLizardEgypt Yarmouth, NSMember Posts: 337
    At the moment yeah, I assume it's in place to keep people from getting to the real end-game so that we take longer to complete it, which I'm fine with for the time being - but I hope it's not a permanent thing. I don't want every patch to come with an extra token grind.

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  • LizardEgyptLizardEgypt Yarmouth, NSMember Posts: 337
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by Alamareth
    Essentially, yes - for about a week or two. Basically, you want to have one ilevel 90 item (relic or chest - depending) and full ilevel 70 before you even think about tackling coil in any serious fashion. That brings us to a pretty glaring design flaw.  The only way to get ilevel 90 is to obtain Tomestones of Mythology, which are capped at 300 per week.  The only way to get those tomes is through running Ampador Keep or other HM Primals.  Assuming the DF queues are reasonably low, AK is normally the fastest way of doing it. Thus, people speed run.  None of us really enjoy the dungeon, we go on full on auto pilot and just blow through it.  After you've run it 40+ times, I think you'll sort of understand why we don't like people that take their time with it. That said, I won't bring PUGs with me - ever.  I respect that you want the full game experience and I expect that you have a similar respect for my time.  That's why PUGs and FCs exist.

    Thank you, your post confirmed in several ways why this title isn't one I would enjoy.

     

    Well, the title has a ton of reasons to enjoy it other than the way you perceive a couple launch features on a forum, that's an important thing to realize, nothing is ever as it sounds on paper. The game is enjoyable as it is, even in the state that OP is questioning.

    Unless of course you already have a predisposition, and as the standard MMORPG.com user does when they have a predisposition, they assume the person defending and enjoying their experience is as equally obsesssed with derailing someone's entertainment as they are.

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  • HyanmenHyanmen KolkkalaMember UncommonPosts: 5,357
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by Hyanmen
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Thank you, your post confirmed in several ways why this title isn't one I would enjoy.  

    Yet you keep coming here. Not that I don't believe you, but you seem to need a lot of reasons to not enjoy this game before letting go!

    Just because I don't play a particular MMORPG doesn't mean I don't have an interest in the topics (especially on newer titles) nor wish to weigh in with my comments on them.

    Isn't the official forums somewhere over there maybe? ------>

    Perhaps you would enjoy them more where everything is undoubtedly all butterflies and fairies. image

    Lol I dont know about butterflies and fairies (have you ever been to an official forum before?) but at least the people commenting there actually play the game they're commenting on.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • FoomerangFoomerang Portland, ORMember UncommonPosts: 5,614


    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Originally posted by Hyanmen Originally posted by Kyleran Thank you, your post confirmed in several ways why this title isn't one I would enjoy.  
    Yet you keep coming here. Not that I don't believe you, but you seem to need a lot of reasons to not enjoy this game before letting go!
    Just because I don't play a particular MMORPG doesn't mean I don't have an interest in the topics (especially on newer titles) nor wish to weigh in with my comments on them.

    Isn't the official forums somewhere over there maybe? ------>

    Perhaps you would enjoy them more where everything is undoubtedly all butterflies and fairies.

     



    Man you know that this place is full of bias when it comes to opinions on games both positive and negative. You're looking for reasons to bandwagon the negative and are validating those reasons through negative opinions. Its like you're hating vicariously lol. You're better than that!
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