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VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
Now we're up to at least four FULL servers again. A few months back they boosted the server caps when eight or so wound up full, and the eyes of any dedicated WvW players will assure you they've never been reduced. This is definitely a good sign for the game, but sadly it also means if we want to squeeze more guilds in for WvW on JQ we'll have to organize black out events again, or possibly find times it dips to very high as time zones log off...

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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,544Member Uncommon

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  • KenaoshiKenaoshi Porto AlegrePosts: 1,016Member Uncommon

    ...until this weekend.

    After the dungeon changes some people (me included) are giving less time to gw2. :(

    But i do belive Anet will hear its players and change back to how it was.

    PS: here some context https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/dungeons/Hard-Dungeon-Token-Nerf

    now: GW2 (11 80s).
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  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

     

    Yeah yeah yeah... the bearer of good news about GW2 shall not go unpunished on these forums, I know. image  I like to inject a little bit of reality based data on occasion though to keep things real. It's easy to claim the game (or any game for that matter) is dead, however not so easy when faced with actual data that it's far from it. 

     

    About the tokens, I have to ask... what do you do with so many tokens anyhow? People there were talking about hundreds of tokens per day for CoF... for the life of me once you have the gear you want I can't see why you'd keep collecting more.

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  • aesperusaesperus Hamshire, NVPosts: 5,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Kenaoshi

    ...until this weekend.

    After the dungeon changes some people (me included) are giving less time to gw2. :(

    But i do belive Anet will hear its players and change back to how it was.

    PS: here some context https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/dungeons/Hard-Dungeon-Token-Nerf

    Doubtful.

    Believe it or not, Anet actually DOESN'T want people farming this game. Which is funny, because a lot of players just keep searching for new ways to farm. The dungeon 'nerfs'  are just the most recent update to try and combat this. Yes, it limits your ability to farm CoF path1 all day. But on the flip side, it also rewards you a lot more for actually playing some of the other couple dozen dungeon paths available.

  • A1D3NA1D3N RichmondPosts: 227Member Uncommon

    shame gw2 is a pointless game, it cud be so good if they changed pvp,

    but o well, ill never play it again

    Currently Playing:
    Heroes of the Storm

    Still looking for a PVP mmo to cure my fix! :(

  • VorchVorch Somewhere, FLPosts: 800Member
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

     

    Yeah yeah yeah... the bearer of good news about GW2 shall not go unpunished on these forums, I know. image  I like to inject a little bit of reality based data on occasion though to keep things real. It's easy to claim the game (or any game for that matter) is dead, however not so easy when faced with actual data that it's far from it. 

     

    About the tokens, I have to ask... what do you do with so many tokens anyhow? People there were talking about hundreds of tokens per day for CoF... for the life of me once you have the gear you want I can't see why you'd keep collecting more.

    I purchased 4 exotic shields and threw them in the Mystic Toilet to roll for Flameseeker Prophecies precursor.

     

    I understand the gold being account bound, but the tokens really should have been character bound.

     

    Other than that, yup, the population keeps growing. GW2 is going to have another test after ESO, EQN, and FF:ARR come out. I have confidence, though.

    "As you read these words, a release is seven days or less away or has just happened within the last seven days— those are now the only two states you’ll find the world of Tyria."...Guild Wars 2

  • KenaoshiKenaoshi Porto AlegrePosts: 1,016Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Volkon
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    About the tokens, I have to ask... what do you do with so many tokens anyhow? People there were talking about hundreds of tokens per day for CoF... for the life of me once you have the gear you want I can't see why you'd keep collecting more.

    to get other characters pretty as well, globs of ectos, money, increase exo precursors drops...

    but all that if you like to have alts and play dungeons with their different play styles.

     

    now: GW2 (11 80s).
    Dark Souls 2.
    future: Mount&Blade 2 BannerLord.
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  • KenaoshiKenaoshi Porto AlegrePosts: 1,016Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by aesperus
    Originally posted by Kenaoshi

    ...until this weekend.

    After the dungeon changes some people (me included) are giving less time to gw2. :(

    But i do belive Anet will hear its players and change back to how it was.

    PS: here some context https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/dungeons/Hard-Dungeon-Token-Nerf

    Doubtful.

    Believe it or not, Anet actually DOESN'T want people farming this game. Which is funny, because a lot of players just keep searching for new ways to farm. The dungeon 'nerfs'  are just the most recent update to try and combat this. Yes, it limits your ability to farm CoF path1 all day. But on the flip side, it also rewards you a lot more for actually playing some of the other couple dozen dungeon paths available.

    yeah, i understand they want to avoid grind, but that kinds of allienate people who worked hard on alts(who bought character slots).

    example: i want to equip my current 80 ranger, and i want an COE set(cause its fucking amazing), now i will need around 1000+ dungeon tokens. Now, sure i will have to run the same quantity of runs BUT instead of partaking with other parties in the same day, with other alts i won't, plus i will only run with my WAR, cause he is "The best" suited for that.

    so now all you will see is warriors here and there cause they are fucking imba dungeon rappists, IMO, and actually you will be seen LESS people doing dungeons so LESS ppl in-game time.

     

    now: GW2 (11 80s).
    Dark Souls 2.
    future: Mount&Blade 2 BannerLord.
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  • InFlamestwoInFlamestwo HindPosts: 662Member
    Originally posted by Kenaoshi

    ...until this weekend.

    After the dungeon changes some people (me included) are giving less time to gw2. :(

    But i do belive Anet will hear its players and change back to how it was.

    PS: here some context https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/dungeons/Hard-Dungeon-Token-Nerf

    You're wrong. People have started doing dungeons more than CoF p1 since the change, which is good. I could hardly get into other dungeons before because everyone farmed CoF p1. You still get good amount of gold. There's other places to farm gold if you want, + a chance on the new weapons. Go to a zone like Frostgorge Sound and you will have 5 gold in an hour and if you're lucky you will loot something worth a lot more.

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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer ChairPosts: 5,587Member Uncommon

    I don't think the nerf is really about the tokens. I think it has more to do with gold farming.

  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,544Member Uncommon

    Two things:

    1) Stopping the "monomaniac" farming of CoF part 1 is a good thing for the game.

    2) They also added rewards for every champion in the world, so it seems to me that they want the players back in the world to "farm" instead of being stuck all day long in the same instance.

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  • VolkonVolkon Sterling, VAPosts: 3,788Member
    Originally posted by Vorch
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

     

    Yeah yeah yeah... the bearer of good news about GW2 shall not go unpunished on these forums, I know. image  I like to inject a little bit of reality based data on occasion though to keep things real. It's easy to claim the game (or any game for that matter) is dead, however not so easy when faced with actual data that it's far from it. 

     

    About the tokens, I have to ask... what do you do with so many tokens anyhow? People there were talking about hundreds of tokens per day for CoF... for the life of me once you have the gear you want I can't see why you'd keep collecting more.

    I purchased 4 exotic shields and threw them in the Mystic Toilet to roll for Flameseeker Prophecies precursor.

     

    I understand the gold being account bound, but the tokens really should have been character bound.

     

    Other than that, yup, the population keeps growing. GW2 is going to have another test after ESO, EQN, and FF:ARR come out. I have confidence, though.

     

    Well damn, all this time and I never thought of that. Too much time in WvW, not enough in PvE I guess, but now it makes sense. Thanks for the knowledge transfer!

     

    Wouldn't tokens being character bound make it more difficult to get them? Unless you're talking about restoring the cap on them to old numbers, in which case account bound wouldn't hurt either. Bah, not enough dungeon running for me. Sigh...

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  • ZzuluZzulu Washington, ALPosts: 452Member

    I wanted to like GW2, I really did.

     

    I really really did.

     

    But it wasn't very fun

  • KenaoshiKenaoshi Porto AlegrePosts: 1,016Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by Vorch
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

     

    Yeah yeah yeah... the bearer of good news about GW2 shall not go unpunished on these forums, I know. image  I like to inject a little bit of reality based data on occasion though to keep things real. It's easy to claim the game (or any game for that matter) is dead, however not so easy when faced with actual data that it's far from it. 

     

    About the tokens, I have to ask... what do you do with so many tokens anyhow? People there were talking about hundreds of tokens per day for CoF... for the life of me once you have the gear you want I can't see why you'd keep collecting more.

    I purchased 4 exotic shields and threw them in the Mystic Toilet to roll for Flameseeker Prophecies precursor.

     

    I understand the gold being account bound, but the tokens really should have been character bound.

     

    Other than that, yup, the population keeps growing. GW2 is going to have another test after ESO, EQN, and FF:ARR come out. I have confidence, though.

     

    Well damn, all this time and I never thought of that. Too much time in WvW, not enough in PvE I guess, but now it makes sense. Thanks for the knowledge transfer!

     

    Wouldn't tokens being character bound make it more difficult to get them? Unless you're talking about restoring the cap on them to old numbers, in which case account bound wouldn't hurt either. Bah, not enough dungeon running for me. Sigh...

    I think he is talking about the old way, getting dungeon tokens per character not account, but the tokens itself being account bound so you could transfer between chars.

    now: GW2 (11 80s).
    Dark Souls 2.
    future: Mount&Blade 2 BannerLord.
    "Bro, do your even fractal?"
    Recommends: Guild Wars 2, Dark Souls, Mount&Blade: Warband, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.

  • ScalplessScalpless SnowballvillePosts: 1,395Member Uncommon

    Regarding the tokens:

    You can get lvl 80 rare armor from some dungeons (CoF, CoE and HotW, I think). You can salvage that armor for ectos and crafting mats. That's where a large part of CoF farmers' money comes from.

    I think the Champion loot revamp was mostly a good thing, but I'd tie those boxes to the completion of DEs that contain Champions. The current system encourages not completing some DEs.

  • AcvivmAcvivm Austin, TXPosts: 321Member Uncommon

    I don't know if the population is growing so I can only speak for myself but I returned to check out some of the new content. I really have a hard time staying interested in the game outside of a day but I am trying to accentuate the good things about the game and focus on that (like the new content) so at least I am giving it a chance.

    I think it might be the art style even though I actually love the textures used in the game, It could just be the drab color of the game that really makes my eyes get heavy but I am getting off topic. My server at least has always had a solid population and I did get put into a overflow server for the first time since the opening release weeks. Is that evidence for a growing population?....probably not but it at least shows that our server still has lots of activity.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Posts: 5,447Member Uncommon
    What they need to do is make class roles mean something. This game is all about zerging. I only log in now to play WvW and have not touched a dungeon since before the first living world update. Running from boss to boss and not working as a team is just no fun at all.


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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,544Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    What they need to do is make class roles mean something. This game is all about zerging. I only log in now to play WvW and have not touched a dungeon since before the first living world update. Running from boss to boss and not working as a team is just no fun at all.

    You should try fractals.

    Playing now: WoW, Landmark, GW2, The Crew, SotA

    Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

    Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO, SW:TOR and GW2.

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  • KenaoshiKenaoshi Porto AlegrePosts: 1,016Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    What they need to do is make class roles mean something. This game is all about zerging. I only log in now to play WvW and have not touched a dungeon since before the first living world update. Running from boss to boss and not working as a team is just no fun at all.

    Please do COE(crucible of eternity) to see that what is said is quite equivocated.

    now: GW2 (11 80s).
    Dark Souls 2.
    future: Mount&Blade 2 BannerLord.
    "Bro, do your even fractal?"
    Recommends: Guild Wars 2, Dark Souls, Mount&Blade: Warband, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.

  • aesperusaesperus Hamshire, NVPosts: 5,128Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    What they need to do is make class roles mean something. This game is all about zerging. I only log in now to play WvW and have not touched a dungeon since before the first living world update. Running from boss to boss and not working as a team is just no fun at all.

    Not working as a team is a personal choice. That's not how the game is designed.

    Like Picard said, try fractals (or CoE), or Arah, or TA forward/up, heck even some of the paths in CM, without working as a team. Oh, and bring some instant repair canisters, you're going to need them.

    Theres a reason why you still see people in gw2lfg asking for specific classes

  • rodingorodingo Posts: 2,346Member Uncommon
    Uh oh,  someone's trying to post a positive thread in the GW2 forums.  I'll keep my list of usual suspects at hand and see how long it takes for them to check in.

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  • Jean-Luc_PicardJean-Luc_Picard La BarrePosts: 3,544Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by aesperus
    ... or Arah ...

    Oh yeah, how could I have forgotten that one. Try to do all Arah explorer paths without teamwork. Please post screenshots of your repair bill :-)

    Playing now: WoW, Landmark, GW2, The Crew, SotA

    Top 3 MMORPGs played: UO, AC1 and WoW

    Honorable mentions: AO, LotRO, SW:TOR and GW2.

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  • PieRadPieRad Odense MPosts: 1,108Member
    Originally posted by Volkon
    Now we're up to at least four FULL servers again. A few months back they boosted the server caps when eight or so wound up full, and the eyes of any dedicated WvW players will assure you they've never been reduced. This is definitely a good sign for the game, but sadly it also means if we want to squeeze more guilds in for WvW on JQ we'll have to organize black out events again, or possibly find times it dips to very high as time zones log off...

    Yep, and gas gets cheaper every day. :)

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  • nolic1nolic1 Kingman, AZPosts: 687Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by InFlamestwo
    Originally posted by Kenaoshi

    ...until this weekend.

    After the dungeon changes some people (me included) are giving less time to gw2. :(

    But i do belive Anet will hear its players and change back to how it was.

    PS: here some context https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/dungeons/Hard-Dungeon-Token-Nerf

    You're wrong. People have started doing dungeons more than CoF p1 since the change, which is good. I could hardly get into other dungeons before because everyone farmed CoF p1. You still get good amount of gold. There's other places to farm gold if you want, + a chance on the new weapons. Go to a zone like Frostgorge Sound and you will have 5 gold in an hour and if you're lucky you will loot something worth a lot more.

    I have to agree with InFlamestwo on this before trying to get groups for other dungeons was not easy even using the gw2lfg.com or or chat in LA you could if you waited 1 hr but by then your group would of been you starting all over again to get a group. I am glade the change came in because before that trying to get groups for say TA hardly happened now its way easier.

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    To me I enjoy gaming I dont play to be uber I play to have fun. If a game is not fun to me guess what I move on and play something else till I find one that is. When I find that great game and not sure if in my life time there will be one I hope it has everything I want in an mmo.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter BristolPosts: 2,801Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Nanfoodle
    What they need to do is make class roles mean something. This game is all about zerging. I only log in now to play WvW and have not touched a dungeon since before the first living world update. Running from boss to boss and not working as a team is just no fun at all.

    First you can't teleport while someone in your party is in combat inside dungeons since like 5 months ago, so that "zerging" line needs to stop, unless you call 5 people a zerg.

    Second, unfortunately the game is too focused on dealing damage and dodging.

    Third,  are you telling me that the majority of the team in games that have the holy trinity aren't working in a team, since the only thing they do is damage?

    Weird. I though they even judged how good your work was by measuring damage dealt.

    What is so special about the actual role of healing and tanking compared to the DPS?

    The damage dealer press the button and deals damage, the healer press the button and heals, the tank press the button and aggroes - they are all doing their individual role, just like a character in GW2.

    Is it because all becomes so predictable, that your DPS are in no danger of dying, unless they fall asleep?

    And let me tell you, if I'm running a warrior with a shield and +toughness armor you can bet your ass 90% of the mobs are coming after me, and you better help me out when I run out of dodges, heals and block skills.

    And yes there are tactics, for example, you can pull the mobs against a wall so you can AoE all of them.

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