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waterwarfare203waterwarfare203 new york city, NYPosts: 10Member

if your a crafter then archeage has a feature that other sandbox dont have.

Craft cars and then you can craft submarines!!!!!!! wooooo

lol take that. SUBMARINES!!! how cool is that? thats something no other mmo or sandbox has

http://feature.mmosite.com/archeage/2013-06-28/kr_july_patch_submarine_swimsuit_and_underwater_dungeon.shtml

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  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by waterwarfare203

    if your a crafter then archeage has a feature that other sandbox dont have.

    Craft cars and then you can craft submarines!!!!!!! wooooo

    lol take that. SUBMARINES!!! how cool is that? thats something no other mmo or sandbox has

    http://feature.mmosite.com/archeage/2013-06-28/kr_july_patch_submarine_swimsuit_and_underwater_dungeon.shtml

    Well, still not out in the US - so we don't know what features we will get. Can we wait and see?

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  • DMKanoDMKano Gamercentral, AKPosts: 8,539Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by waterwarfare203

    if your a crafter then archeage has a feature that other sandbox dont have.

    Craft cars and then you can craft submarines!!!!!!! wooooo

    lol take that. SUBMARINES!!! how cool is that? thats something no other mmo or sandbox has

    http://feature.mmosite.com/archeage/2013-06-28/kr_july_patch_submarine_swimsuit_and_underwater_dungeon.shtml

    Well, still not out in the US - so we don't know what features we will get. Can we wait and see?

    No features will be cut - this was addresses at E3 - we will get everything.

  • Shadowguy64Shadowguy64 Rohnert Park, CAPosts: 848Member

    Well, Eve can craft spaceships! So take that! Oooooh....burn....

    :-)

  • HolophonistHolophonist Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 2,086Member Uncommon
    It's still just craftable vehicles, which isn't new. Also the cars are..... meh.
  • waterwarfare203waterwarfare203 new york city, NYPosts: 10Member

    i hope it can be used in water warfare, not just ship but also submariens too!

    :D

    i think there was a trailer where the submarines got involved in ship battles.

     

    ooooooo the possibilites are endless.

     

     

  • BetaguyBetaguy Halifax, NSPosts: 2,590Member
    Originally posted by waterwarfare203

    if your a crafter then archeage has a feature that other sandbox dont have.

    Craft cars and then you can craft submarines!!!!!!! wooooo

    lol take that. SUBMARINES!!! how cool is that? thats something no other mmo or sandbox has

    http://feature.mmosite.com/archeage/2013-06-28/kr_july_patch_submarine_swimsuit_and_underwater_dungeon.shtml

    I am skipping this title and I don't skip many... I may try it a few years down the road... Too many better games coming out I won't have time for this one. I place it on my C- Shelf along side Vanguard.

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  • naZchoconaZchoco athens, TNPosts: 82Member
    Crafting your own subs for war is neat. As far as vehicles - firefall is allowing you to craft your own cars. And 4 years ago on WoW i crafted a magic carpet :P
  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon ParisPosts: 2,076Member Uncommon

    I agree OP and whether we have seen what Trion have to offer is a silly answer to your post. Trion are not going to bring AA to us lacking some of the key features.

    One thing that ArcheAge doesn't have is Age Of Wushu offline system which imo is one of the most innovative feature to come out in a MMO since MMO's began. If a western dev had this feature we would never hear the last of it, in fact Age Of Wushu is another hybrid with some great features.

    Oh and ArcheAge and Age Of Wushu/Wullin are sandpark mmo, they are not true sandbox MMO's.

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  • DihoruDihoru ConstantaPosts: 2,731Member
    I was hoping for an actual sub... kinda like the ones that kept sinking during the american civil war... not a underwater jetski.

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  • waterwarfare203waterwarfare203 new york city, NYPosts: 10Member

    naval battles for control is going to look epic.

     

     

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon ParisPosts: 2,076Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by waterwarfare203

    if your a crafter then archeage has a feature that other sandbox dont have.

    Craft cars and then you can craft submarines!!!!!!! wooooo

    lol take that. SUBMARINES!!! how cool is that? thats something no other mmo or sandbox has

    http://feature.mmosite.com/archeage/2013-06-28/kr_july_patch_submarine_swimsuit_and_underwater_dungeon.shtml

    Well, still not out in the US - so we don't know what features we will get. Can we wait and see?

    If you want to wait then don't comment in the thread, it's pretty obvious that Trion will bring most if not all of AA features that make up the game. Some might come later but you must be dreaming if you think we are going to get a dumbed down version of the game.

    One thing i do know, it will be a lot more entertaining than that mess called image

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  • botrytisbotrytis In Flux, MIPosts: 2,567Member
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by waterwarfare203

    if your a crafter then archeage has a feature that other sandbox dont have.

    Craft cars and then you can craft submarines!!!!!!! wooooo

    lol take that. SUBMARINES!!! how cool is that? thats something no other mmo or sandbox has

    http://feature.mmosite.com/archeage/2013-06-28/kr_july_patch_submarine_swimsuit_and_underwater_dungeon.shtml

    Well, still not out in the US - so we don't know what features we will get. Can we wait and see?

    If you don't like the thread then don't comment, it's pretty obvious that Trion will bring most if not all of AA features that make up the game. Some might come later but you must be dreaming if you think we are going to get a dumbed down version of the game.

    One thing i do know, it will be a lot more entertaining than that mess called image

    mees called? SWTOR, TSW, RIft, WoW? what? spill the beans.

     

    Not buying into the hype as again, been burned by hype machines. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

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  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon ParisPosts: 2,076Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by waterwarfare203

    naval battles for control is going to look epic.

     

     

    I also like the fishing vessel which are ultra cool imo.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDer1HpY9Bg

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  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon ParisPosts: 2,076Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by waterwarfare203

    if your a crafter then archeage has a feature that other sandbox dont have.

    Craft cars and then you can craft submarines!!!!!!! wooooo

    lol take that. SUBMARINES!!! how cool is that? thats something no other mmo or sandbox has

    http://feature.mmosite.com/archeage/2013-06-28/kr_july_patch_submarine_swimsuit_and_underwater_dungeon.shtml

    Well, still not out in the US - so we don't know what features we will get. Can we wait and see?

    If you don't like the thread then don't comment, it's pretty obvious that Trion will bring most if not all of AA features that make up the game. Some might come later but you must be dreaming if you think we are going to get a dumbed down version of the game.

    One thing i do know, it will be a lot more entertaining than that mess called image

    mees called? SWTOR, TSW, RIft, WoW? what? spill the beans.

     

    Not buying into the hype as again, been burned by hype machines. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

    You missed out GW2 which doesn't surprise me.

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  • KoroshiyaKoroshiya Pacific, WAPosts: 250Member Uncommon

    as someone playing Archeage right now in another country, I can tell you that Archeage is not  A) A sandbox, but instead a B) Themepark that introduces you to possible sandboxy idea's.  Nothing about Archeage is sandboxy.  There is a leveling treadmill with quest leading you to one area to another, no real point to exploring, crafting is swg'ish in nature but I can't just create whatever I want.  in PVP levels mean everything, then when levels are equal gear is the next best.  Skill has minimal to low importance.

     

    To me a sandbox hasn't been created yet.  Closest thing we have is Darkfall and that game is well, darkfall.  I will say though Archeage is one of the only theme parks I actually semi enjoy playing.  As for the Trion changing stuff, yea right they aren't going to change anything.  Until the first person at 30 gets perma stun locked and can't react until he is dead.  Then the average player in the US is going to cry and whine and it will get changed up to be more casual/easy.  Or someone loses their first load because a rogue was waiting on the side of the road and they get ganked for not having support with them on their run.

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  • GoriomGoriom New York, NYPosts: 8Member

    So much misinformation going around on these forums, it's sickening.  First off the game is not a themepark.  Its certainly not a sandbox, but its not a themepark either.  Its more of a hybrid.  A Sandpark? Themebox?  

    Also I hear a lot of people say that the game is "failing" because it went "F2P"  People need to realize that there are cultural differences between South Korea and other places.  Tons of  big titles out in Korea are F2P and doing very well.  Archeage wanted to be more competitve against titles like Blade and Soul, Aion, and the Original Lineage.  This "F2P" is just a scheme to make more money...  The game is doing fine in Korea.

     

     

  • KumaponKumapon Vancouver, BCPosts: 705Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by waterwarfare203
    naval battles for control is going to look epic.  


    Cool navel battle

    http://youtu.be/lYv1DOL5aBs

  • KoroshiyaKoroshiya Pacific, WAPosts: 250Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Goriom

    So much misinformation going around on these forums, it's sickening.  First off the game is not a themepark.  Its certainly not a sandbox, but its not a themepark either.  Its more of a hybrid.  A Sandpark? Themebox?  

    Also I hear a lot of people say that the game is "failing" because it went "F2P"  People need to realize that there are cultural differences between South Korea and other places.  Tons of  big titles out in Korea are F2P and doing very well.  Archeage wanted to be more competitve against titles like Blade and Soul, Aion, and the Original Lineage.  This "F2P" is just a scheme to make more money...  The game is doing fine in Korea.

     

     

    I am playing the game, its a theme park.  There are quest hubs, and the primary way of leveling is to follow the quest hubs from place to place. Those same quest hubs lead you into new leveling areas where you grind out the remaining quests until it moves you to a new place.   There are predetermined plots of land you can build on, you can't just build anywhere you have to buy the plot where the devs decided to put them.  Boats don't make a game a sandbox, 3 class trees and job changing isn't a sandbox, FFxiv isn't a sandbox and it does that already.  

    Here is the only thing I guess you can consider sandbox:

    You can be a magic user who wears plate and has a bow.  Congrats, but your skills are still based on the core classes you pick and the skills in them you spend your skill points on.   The potency of those skills are soley based on the primary stat for them (STR, DEX, INT, WIS) considering though that only the stats matter and not the fact that its cloth or leather or plate since none of it slows you down, hinders movement or offers differences based on the type of equipment it is.

    Everything else in the game is exactly the same thing you will find in any other theme park game like Aion, WoW, GW2, EQ2 etc.  And btw, have fun when you are stun locked for the entire fight, or 3 shotted by Grim Reapers!  I don't think some of you understand what you are getting hyped up about.  I enjoy the game, its why I play it, but it is not even close to a sandbox. 

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden gdfgfPosts: 4,333Member
    Originally posted by Koroshiya

     

     

    To me a sandbox hasn't been created yet.  Closest thing we have is Darkfall and that game is well, darkfall.  I will say though Archeage is one of the only theme parks I actually semi enjoy playing.  As for the Trion changing stuff, yea right they aren't going to change anything.  Until the first person at 30 gets perma stun locked and can't react until he is dead.  Then the average player in the US is going to cry and whine and it will get changed up to be more casual/easy.  Or someone loses their first load because a rogue was waiting on the side of the road and they get ganked for not having support with them on their run.

    Darkfall is not a sandbox game. Darkfall original had potential to be one but with DF:UW  AV has WoWified the game.

    DF is a arena action game with not much features to interact and shape the world, everything is predifined with not much freedom.

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  • GoriomGoriom New York, NYPosts: 8Member
    Originally posted by Koroshiya
    Originally posted by Goriom

    So much misinformation going around on these forums, it's sickening.  First off the game is not a themepark.  Its certainly not a sandbox, but its not a themepark either.  Its more of a hybrid.  A Sandpark? Themebox?  

    Also I hear a lot of people say that the game is "failing" because it went "F2P"  People need to realize that there are cultural differences between South Korea and other places.  Tons of  big titles out in Korea are F2P and doing very well.  Archeage wanted to be more competitve against titles like Blade and Soul, Aion, and the Original Lineage.  This "F2P" is just a scheme to make more money...  The game is doing fine in Korea.

     

     

    I am playing the game, its a theme park.  There are quest hubs, and the primary way of leveling is to follow the quest hubs from place to place. Those same quest hubs lead you into new leveling areas where you grind out the remaining quests until it moves you to a new place.   There are predetermined plots of land you can build on, you can't just build anywhere you have to buy the plot where the devs decided to put them.  Boats don't make a game a sandbox, 3 class trees and job changing isn't a sandbox, FFxiv isn't a sandbox and it does that already.  

    Here is the only thing I guess you can consider sandbox:

    You can be a magic user who wears plate and has a bow.  Congrats, but your skills are still based on the core classes you pick and the skills in them you spend your skill points on.   The potency of those skills are soley based on the primary stat for them (STR, DEX, INT, WIS) considering though that only the stats matter and not the fact that its cloth or leather or plate since none of it slows you down, hinders movement or offers differences based on the type of equipment it is.

    Everything else in the game is exactly the same thing you will find in any other theme park game like Aion, WoW, GW2, EQ2 etc.  And btw, have fun when you are stun locked for the entire fight, or 3 shotted by Grim Reapers!  I don't think some of you understand what you are getting hyped up about.  I enjoy the game, its why I play it, but it is not even close to a sandbox. 

    A sandbox MMO is a game that drops you into a player driven world (creation is not  the only tool, politics is also a big feature of a sandbox).  Players are given tools, and sand, and they get to make things (to a certain degree).  

    Again, this is not a sandbox game, but it is neither a themepark.  It is definitely somewhere in the middle...

    Also, you are not the only one outside of Korea currently playing the game.  

  • firefly2003firefly2003 Los Angeles, CAPosts: 2,555Member
    I've been noticing some of the more odds and ends stuff in Archeage that breaks immersion for some people , I myself enjoy weird bizzare things , the only thing that has me worried now is how item decay and synthesis was removed in the Korean version which was met with negative reaction, XL Games wanted to scale back and cater to players once again that already has a market of games they have heavily available to them but seemingly only have 1-2 hrs a week to play, they continue tweaking and going for mass appeal by the time this games hits American shores it will be DOA before it is allowed to garner an audience it was truly intended to be for, not ultra casual players that shouldn't be playing MMOs to begin with.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Baltimore, MDPosts: 16,908Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by botrytis
    Originally posted by waterwarfare203

    if your a crafter then archeage has a feature that other sandbox dont have.

    Craft cars and then you can craft submarines!!!!!!! wooooo

    lol take that. SUBMARINES!!! how cool is that? thats something no other mmo or sandbox has

    http://feature.mmosite.com/archeage/2013-06-28/kr_july_patch_submarine_swimsuit_and_underwater_dungeon.shtml

    Well, still not out in the US - so we don't know what features we will get. Can we wait and see?

    If you don't like the thread then don't comment, it's pretty obvious that Trion will bring most if not all of AA features that make up the game. Some might come later but you must be dreaming if you think we are going to get a dumbed down version of the game.

    One thing i do know, it will be a lot more entertaining than that mess called image

    mees called? SWTOR, TSW, RIft, WoW? what? spill the beans.

     

    Not buying into the hype as again, been burned by hype machines. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

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  • KoroshiyaKoroshiya Pacific, WAPosts: 250Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Goriom
    Originally posted by Koroshiya
    Originally posted by Goriom

    So much misinformation going around on these forums, it's sickening.  First off the game is not a themepark.  Its certainly not a sandbox, but its not a themepark either.  Its more of a hybrid.  A Sandpark? Themebox?  

    Also I hear a lot of people say that the game is "failing" because it went "F2P"  People need to realize that there are cultural differences between South Korea and other places.  Tons of  big titles out in Korea are F2P and doing very well.  Archeage wanted to be more competitve against titles like Blade and Soul, Aion, and the Original Lineage.  This "F2P" is just a scheme to make more money...  The game is doing fine in Korea.

     

     

    I am playing the game, its a theme park.  There are quest hubs, and the primary way of leveling is to follow the quest hubs from place to place. Those same quest hubs lead you into new leveling areas where you grind out the remaining quests until it moves you to a new place.   There are predetermined plots of land you can build on, you can't just build anywhere you have to buy the plot where the devs decided to put them.  Boats don't make a game a sandbox, 3 class trees and job changing isn't a sandbox, FFxiv isn't a sandbox and it does that already.  

    Here is the only thing I guess you can consider sandbox:

    You can be a magic user who wears plate and has a bow.  Congrats, but your skills are still based on the core classes you pick and the skills in them you spend your skill points on.   The potency of those skills are soley based on the primary stat for them (STR, DEX, INT, WIS) considering though that only the stats matter and not the fact that its cloth or leather or plate since none of it slows you down, hinders movement or offers differences based on the type of equipment it is.

    Everything else in the game is exactly the same thing you will find in any other theme park game like Aion, WoW, GW2, EQ2 etc.  And btw, have fun when you are stun locked for the entire fight, or 3 shotted by Grim Reapers!  I don't think some of you understand what you are getting hyped up about.  I enjoy the game, its why I play it, but it is not even close to a sandbox. 

    A sandbox MMO is a game that drops you into a player driven world (creation is not  the only tool, politics is also a big feature of a sandbox).  Players are given tools, and sand, and they get to make things (to a certain degree).  

    Again, this is not a sandbox game, but it is neither a themepark.  It is definitely somewhere in the middle...

    Also, you are not the only one outside of Korea currently playing the game.  

    nothing in this game is permanent, nothing is really changed by the playerbase.  Its a theme park with carnival games.  There is nothing about the game is sandbox, sorry!  The housing is predetermined plots unlike SWG where you can pretty much build anywhere another city has not taken up.  Nothing in the game is player driven or created.  Sandboxes, even Sandparks have SOME player generated content.  Crafting RNG gear, placing plots on predetermined lots and open world pvp are not sandbox features.  Sandbox would be allowing a player to pick up a sword and get better with that sword, or a wand and a book and getting better at the skill they are using.

    In this game you have Rifts class system with less options and the same amount of "alpha" classes that EVERYONE plays.  There is no diversity because being tied to stats and a level to be powerful.  I know you want it to be a Sandpark/box but it just isn't.  I did too. 

    Please list me one feature that is considered a sandbox in this game.  NOTHING is player generated from scratch, it either has a dev decided spot to build, or a recipe you already had created for you by the devs, farmville is not sandbox either because if I cut down a tree, another one will eventually pop up in its place regardless if a human plants it.  I can't steal open world crops that are in a farm either, and I can't fully destroy anything just bring it down to its last upgrade point.

    Nothing I do in Archeage affects the overall Archeage world.

     

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  • dandurindandurin Santa Clara, CAPosts: 493Member
    Originally posted by Koroshiya

     

    nothing in this game is permanent, nothing is really changed by the playerbase.  Its a theme park with carnival games.  There is nothing about the game is sandbox, sorry!  The housing is predetermined plots unlike SWG where you can pretty much build anywhere another city has not taken up.  Nothing in the game is player driven or created.  Sandboxes, even Sandparks have SOME player generated content.  Crafting RNG gear, placing plots on predetermined lots and open world pvp are not sandbox features.  Sandbox would be allowing a player to pick up a sword and get better with that sword, or a wand and a book and getting better at the skill they are using.

    In this game you have Rifts class system with less options and the same amount of "alpha" classes that EVERYONE plays.  There is no diversity because being tied to stats and a level to be powerful.  I know you want it to be a Sandpark/box but it just isn't.  I did too. 

    Please list me one feature that is considered a sandbox in this game.  NOTHING is player generated from scratch, it either has a dev decided spot to build, or a recipe you already had created for you by the devs, farmville is not sandbox either because if I cut down a tree, another one will eventually pop up in its place regardless if a human plants it.  I can't steal open world crops that are in a farm either, and I can't fully destroy anything just bring it down to its last upgrade point.

    Nothing I do in Archeage affects the overall Archeage world.

     

    It seems like you are just being argumentative.

     

    AA is more sandbox-y than 95% of MMO's out there, therefore calling it a themepark makes the term "themepark" pretty much meaningless.

    If you build a house on a plot then I can't build one there myself.  Therefore "something you do in Archeage affects the overall Archeage world".  Farmville isn't sandboxy?  Says you and... nobody.

     

    And what about castles?  Their wall structure isn't pre-determined right?

     

    Granted, Wurm Online is MORE "sandboxy" since your houses and fences are free-form and you can terraform and it's classless, but if ArcheAge isn't a "sandpark" then the term shouldn't exist.

     

    You complain about everything being pre-built by the devs, but since it has as many or more ship models as any other game, I guess there are zero "sandboxes"?

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