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WTF City of Heroes is DEAD !

slygamer1979slygamer1979 sarasota, FLPosts: 86Member

what in the blue hell happened to this game i found out not long ago that they shut down last sept i thought it was doing pretty good.  

I found out when i was checking in i wanted to login and play some and BAM game is shut down :-/

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  • shaddy33shaddy33 San Antonio, TXPosts: 77Member
    I feel your pain brother.
  • NotimeforbsNotimeforbs Memphis, TNPosts: 346Member Common
    It was live for like 11 years or so.  It had a good run.  There's no shame in putting an old dog to rest.
  • YizleYizle Atlanta, GAPosts: 517Member

    Woke up from a coma?

    But yeah it does suck they closed it down and screwed over its subscribers like they did.

    Was a fun game.

  • sholo635sholo635 Jonquiere, QCPosts: 17Member Uncommon
    right in the feelings... :(
  • DrakynnDrakynn The Pas, MBPosts: 2,030Member
    Originally posted by slygamer1979

    what in the blue hell happened to this game i found out not long ago that they shut down last sept i thought it was doing pretty good.  

    I found out when i was checking in i wanted to login and play some and BAM game is shut down :-/

    Have you jsut come back from deployment or something ?Because this was pretty big news late last year.The game was still profitable but not profitable enough for NCSoft apparently who wanted to shift resources elsewhere.

    Whilst I don't begrudge NCSoft the right to do what it wants with it's IPs,the way they went about it was pretty shitty.The fien folk at paragon found out they were out of a job at the same time as it was announced to the world,at the tiem they were working on the next issue still.

    Some of the paragon devs and fans are working on something called the Phoenix Project which is planning a kickstart in Spetember if your interested.

    http://phoenix project missing worlds media

    http://missingworldsmedia.com/forums/

  • MMORPGtesterMMORPGtester Home, PAPosts: 76Member

    This is what NC soft does with ALL there games once there revenue drops below a set threshhold. This is also why it is not wise to invest any time or money into a game they produce. This is sad because some of there games that were terminated were simply ahead of there time.

    (RIP)

    Auto Assault NetDevil MMO Closed August 31, 2007. Dungeon Runners NCSOFT MMO Closed January 1, 2010. Dragonica (Korean Server) Gravity Corp. Casual MMO Closed July 13, 2011. Exteel NCSOFT (E&G Studios) TPS Closed September 1, 2010. Point Blank (Korean Server) Zepetto FPS Closed July 13, 2011. Tabula Rasa Destination Games MMO Closed February 28, 2009. City of Heroes Paragon Studios MMO Closed November 30, 2012

     

  • Artair83Artair83 Canton, OHPosts: 48Member Uncommon
    Yeah this was a sad situation the story wasn't over or anything. It wasn't really a planned shut down so much as an out of the blue investor closing. NC use to be my favorite mass mmo publisher but they definitely lost a lot of my respect that day.
  • slygamer1979slygamer1979 sarasota, FLPosts: 86Member

    No on the coma i was just playing other mmo's and forgot about it for awhile but i was playing DCUO and remembered CoH was better and wanted to play that again. 

    too bad i miss my lvl 50 stalker >_< 

    they should've figured out a way to give that game a single player to play offline

    but other crap mmo's are doing just fine >_<

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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Matrix, NYPosts: 911Member Uncommon

    Favorite MMO ever, Auto Assault...killed by NCsoft

     

    Second favorite MMO ever, Tabula Rasa...killed by NCsoft

     

    Third favorite MMO ever, City of Heroes...killed my NCsoft

     

    they make my favorite MMOs, but kill them and then beat up the corpse to a bloody pulp.

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  • YizleYizle Atlanta, GAPosts: 517Member
    Well from all the financials posted by Paragon CoX was doing fine financially so NCSoft screwing it over was a shock to all. But yes this was major news gaming wise for a number of months.
  • ApocalypseSunriseApocalypseSunrise Paducah, KYPosts: 80Member

    This is the site of the other "spiritual successor" to CoH.

     

    http://www.heroes-and-villains.com/phpb/home.php

     

    It's sounding like a loose CoH clone. I hope they realize that and make some adjustments so NCsoft doesn't try to sue them for copyright infringement.

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  • M1sf1tM1sf1t San Francisco, CAPosts: 1,583Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by MMORPGtester
    This is what NC soft does with ALL there games once there revenue drops below a set threshhold. This is also why it is not wise to invest any time or money into a game they produce. This is sad because some of there games that were terminated were simply ahead of there time.

    (RIP)Auto Assault NetDevil MMO Closed August 31, 2007. Dungeon Runners NCSOFT MMO Closed January 1, 2010. Dragonica (Korean Server) Gravity Corp. Casual MMO Closed July 13, 2011. Exteel NCSOFT (E&G Studios) TPS Closed September 1, 2010. Point Blank (Korean Server) Zepetto FPS Closed July 13, 2011. Tabula Rasa Destination Games MMO Closed February 28, 2009. City of Heroes Paragon Studios MMO Closed November 30, 2012 


    I'm am in by no means a NCSoft fanboy as most of their games do not appeal to me. However I'm pretty sure this isn't just a NCSoft issue. If a company cannot find a way to profit off a game they will shut it down. NCSoft isn't the first company to do this after all and MMO's are business in the end.

    PS. Having tried and played Auto-assault and Tabula Rasa I can say with a fact that they were both games that had good premises but horrible execution at launch by the developers who made those games. They died because they were not profitable and were not gaining any subs and thus no publisher or developer would justify pouring money into a product that effectively failed in the marketplace.

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  • YizleYizle Atlanta, GAPosts: 517Member
    Originally posted by M1sf1t

     


    Originally posted by MMORPGtester
    This is what NC soft does with ALL there games once there revenue drops below a set threshhold. This is also why it is not wise to invest any time or money into a game they produce. This is sad because some of there games that were terminated were simply ahead of there time.

     

    (RIP)Auto Assault NetDevil MMO Closed August 31, 2007. Dungeon Runners NCSOFT MMO Closed January 1, 2010. Dragonica (Korean Server) Gravity Corp. Casual MMO Closed July 13, 2011. Exteel NCSOFT (E&G Studios) TPS Closed September 1, 2010. Point Blank (Korean Server) Zepetto FPS Closed July 13, 2011. Tabula Rasa Destination Games MMO Closed February 28, 2009. City of Heroes Paragon Studios MMO Closed November 30, 2012 


     

    I'm am in by no means a NCSoft fanboy as most of their games do not appeal to me. However I'm pretty sure this isn't just a NCSoft issue. If a company cannot find a way to profit off a game they will shut it down. NCSoft isn't the first company to do this after all and MMO's are business in the end.

    PS. Having tried and played Auto-assault and Tabula Rasa I can say with a fact that they were both games that had good premises but horrible execution at launch by the developers who made those games. They died because they were not profitable and were not gaining any subs and thus no publisher or developer would justify pouring money into a product that effectively failed in the marketplace.

     

    Actually from the financial reports released by the company CoH was turning a profit.

  • frogtownfrogtown Cedar Rapids, IAPosts: 59Member

    This is the first time I have heard of the new project. I really hope they can pull it together. I miss City of Heroes/Villians. It was probably the MMO I invested the most time in.

    All the newer MMO's are trying to think outside the box which is great, but sometimes I miss my old favorites. That is the biggest downside to MMO's is that once they shutdown you basically lose the game forever. Hell I'm sure I have an old pong game still collecting dust somewhere.

  • steamtanksteamtank Rochester, NYPosts: 385Member

    right in the feels...

     

    the scars were just forming... new wounds all over again

     

    the 3 superhero games on the market right now are bleh at best

     

    i want CoH back so badly =(

    ideally on a new engine with updated graphics... but hell ill take it as is... just turn the servers on

  • madazzmadazz A town, ONPosts: 1,564Member Uncommon

    I loved City of Heroes. Was in beta, got the special sprint graphic they later gave to anyone anyways, and played for years. I came back quite a few months before the game was canned, and they made a mess of it. The early stages were all refined and quite nice, but the end game was a huge grindy mess. It felt more like work than anything else. I wouldn't be surprised if the publisher/devs noticed that towards end game their retainment rate severely dropped off.

    A good end game is not "do this before you can do this so you can go back to do this before doing this part which opens up this part for you so you can complete 1/7 things you need before you can compete in such and such".

  • CthulhuPuffsCthulhuPuffs Henderson, NVPosts: 363Member Common

    CoX was a great game. Played from CoH Beta through CoV Beta up until about 8 mo before it died.

    Still have all the physical print CoH Comics (in plastic) they used to send out every month.

    I miss being able to log in to my Fire/Fire Blaster and roasting some baddies

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  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Calgary, ABPosts: 2,156Member

    Same, long time CoH/CoV player and after it went F2P I played a little less because I didn't feel obligated to spend more time on it due to no sub required.


    I miss the game quite a bit, I don't even like DCUO and Champions Online shouldn't even exist.

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  • SukiyakiSukiyaki GreenwichPosts: 1,398Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Yizle
    Originally posted by M1sf1t

     

    I'm am in by no means a NCSoft fanboy as most of their games do not appeal to me. However I'm pretty sure this isn't just a NCSoft issue. If a company cannot find a way to profit off a game they will shut it down. NCSoft isn't the first company to do this after all and MMO's are business in the end.

    PS. Having tried and played Auto-assault and Tabula Rasa I can say with a fact that they were both games that had good premises but horrible execution at launch by the developers who made those games. They died because they were not profitable and were not gaining any subs and thus no publisher or developer would justify pouring money into a product that effectively failed in the marketplace.

     

    Actually from the financial reports released by the company CoH was turning a profit.

    Actually from the financial reports released by the company its not possible to see CoH was turning a profit. Neither reasonable profits,nor straight profits. So you might stop claiming that.

  • KyleranKyleran Tampa, FLPosts: 19,978Member Uncommon
    Most of the people who bemoan it's closing were not playing it at the time. Yet they wonder why NC shut it down.

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  • TeknoBugTeknoBug Calgary, ABPosts: 2,156Member


    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Most of the people who bemoan it's closing were not playing it at the time. Yet they wonder why NC shut it down.
    Here's what I remember what happened, not long after the game went F2P on most weekends Protector, Virtue and Freedom were nearly full. I figured the profit fell through the floor once it went F2P because there weren't many things worth buying in the cash shop.


    But once the announcement of closing CoH happened, the servers basically emptied out, Freedom was the emptiest I ever saw in the last 4-5 months and became discouraging to even log in.

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  • Sugoi-chanSugoi-chan Grove City, OHPosts: 15Member

    CoH was my home away from home for the entire 8-1/2 years it was active, with my longest period of inactivity being about a 2 week period when real life stuff took precedence.  CoH itself may have been shut down due to NCS's internal policies, but there are at least 3 fan-driven replacements in the works right now in various stages of  operability.  Quite fitting for one of the classic memes of comic books... "They're Dead?  Nah... They'll be back in a few issues, and better than before!"

    Looking forward to assisting in beta testing The Phoenix Project, Heroes and Villains, and Valiance Online (not necessarily in that order.)

    http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/board,170.0.html

    And anyone who still has CoH Issue 23 or 24 (Beta) installed on their system can use the Icon program to site see and tinker with the old game, although it's in solo mode only.  And things are a lot quieter in Paragon City since all those meddling Hero and Villain groups vanished.  A lot of people have been taking photos of their favorite characters as individual and group shots.

    http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,7288.0.html

     

     

     

     

  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COPosts: 956Member
    Originally posted by Sukiyaki
    Originally posted by Yizle
    Originally posted by M1sf1t

     

    I'm am in by no means a NCSoft fanboy as most of their games do not appeal to me. However I'm pretty sure this isn't just a NCSoft issue. If a company cannot find a way to profit off a game they will shut it down. NCSoft isn't the first company to do this after all and MMO's are business in the end.

    PS. Having tried and played Auto-assault and Tabula Rasa I can say with a fact that they were both games that had good premises but horrible execution at launch by the developers who made those games. They died because they were not profitable and were not gaining any subs and thus no publisher or developer would justify pouring money into a product that effectively failed in the marketplace.

     

    Actually from the financial reports released by the company CoH was turning a profit.

    Actually from the financial reports released by the company its not possible to see CoH was turning a profit. Neither reasonable profits,nor straight profits. So you might stop claiming that.

    try again it was turning a profit, a lot of people beleave something else was going on behond the scenes especially when they refused to sell it, they claim to have done everything possible to hand it over to someone else, but their asking price was 80 mil, which is way above its estimaded value considering it only turned a profit of around a handful of mil per year, at the time of closeing.

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  • Squeak69Squeak69 Colorado Springs, COPosts: 956Member
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    Most of the people who bemoan it's closing were not playing it at the time. Yet they wonder why NC shut it down.

    I was playing it at launch and played it till close and the only breaks I tok where due to deployments.

    that aside, CoH F2P was prob the most generose F2P I have seen to date for a MMO.

    F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used toimage
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  • slygamer1979slygamer1979 sarasota, FLPosts: 86Member

    Thinking about it i wonder if NCSoft did the F2P on purpose knowing the game wouldn't survive so they had reason to shut it down and i notice the new game WildStar shows up not long after which makes me really think this was all planned.

    i smell conspiracy !

    another possibility is if the dev's could bring the game back with updated graphics and all and repackage and sell it as a new mmo.

    I was looking forward to playing i just got the itch to play my characters again and when i looked at the site months ago it was it was closed already and now i can never get to play as a hero/villian the way i want to ever again and don't hand me that crap that DCUO is close i say screw that ! and as for champs online that just looks sad to me.

    I would've figured if F2P wasn't working out they could've went back to P2P i would've gladly paid a monthly fee to play again.

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