What does that have to do with PvP or factions exactly? It's not even into detail, it's an overreaching idea of what the game is. He also said "What we’re building is something that we will be very proud to call EverQuest"...based on the PvE history of Everquest why couldn't the same argument be made for a PvE sandbox game with limited PvP?
There have been ZERO details about this game other than broad, vague ideas.
I never said that factions with PVP was a fact. I do think in my opinion that there's a high probability that there will be Open World PVP in EQ Next. But yes I will concede that there is a possibility that the CEO of SOE could say that he agrees with sandbox games needing open world PVP and not have it in his own sandbox game. I find that prospect HIGHLY improbable. So much so that I put it in the fact column. That shouldn't be fact in of itself. I should of put the disclaimer High Possibility of Open World PVP in EQ Next would be more accurate.
Smedley needs to shut up and put his money where is mouth is........something which he has been historically poor at. We will see in August whether all these 'groundbreaking' and 'revolutionary' features he has been hinting are actually real.
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Originally posted by stragen001 Smedley needs to shut up and put his money where is mouth is........something which he has been historically poor at. We will see in August whether all these 'groundbreaking' and 'revolutionary' features he has been hinting are actually real.
You right. After all these years watching MMO's come and go i've learned that you should ALWAYS take everything a dev say about a game in development with a HUGE grain of salt.
Originally posted by stragen001 Smedley needs to shut up and put his money where is mouth is........something which he has been historically poor at. We will see in August whether all these 'groundbreaking' and 'revolutionary' features he has been hinting are actually real.
Ya know who use to alot to about stuff being groundbreaking...Peter Molyneux.
Remember how epic Fable was supposed to be (and basically every other game he ever was involved with). Be really careful getting hyped about the hype.
Prove it is a fact and not an opinion. Show me some statistical comparison please.
Still waiting for this proof....
LOL
Smedley said EQ Next will be the largest sandbox MMO ever designed. That's a fact. IF he's lying, it's not.
If you mean fact that he's telling the truth, then no. We don't have anything of that nature. But then we could think that when MMORPG says we'll poop our pants, that they could be lying too. And Ten Ton Hammer could be lying as well. Heck everyone could be lying until we see it for ourselves. Even then many will argue with reality. So what's your point?
Not even a small stretch, especially when Smed has already mentioned there would be PvP in this game and sandbox elements.
He said he agrees wholeheartedly that sandbox games need open world pvp with real risk/rewards.
According to some people that doesn't mean EQ Next, even though EQ Next will be a sandbox.
Come August 2nd we'll find out for sure and see a whole new crop of threads pop up. Boy those are going to be fun read and taste the tears.
It may or may nto apply to EQN,it may just be Smeds personal taste and not the direction the game is taking.
The director of an entire game company, who has been almost exclusively using his twitter to drop hints about EQnext, would not talk about personal taste, because any sane person would realize that everyone hanging on his world will assume he's talking about EQNext.
I know there's a lot of confused and scared people who don't understand PvP, but attacking the OP for connecting the very close together dots is not the way to do this.
And we have been following the game so perhaps you can tell us what "facts" you are talking about?
Nope it's a new game but it's still going to be very familiar to EQ players.
It will be sandbox.
It will have Open World PVP. Smed doesn't specifically say EQ Next about this, but it's a response to a true Sandbox game having Open World PVP. Some have deluded themselves into thinking that the man in charge is going to agree wholeheartedly in a public forum that he agrees that Sandbox games need to have Open World PVP, but not put it in his own game. As if he has no control to tell his subordinates anything or that he would make public his own opinions about something that his very own game lacks.
It will be a parallel universe.
It will have a lot of involvement with Factions.
It will be on the PS4.
Crafting will play a large role. (Read player related content)
It will be closely aligned with the feel of the original EQ.
There's other stuff that's more vague (like the burning down forests, etc.)
Oh I think he said we like permadeath for EQN once too. so there's that.
It will also have themepark elements, as stated by Smedley himself.
What exactly are themepark elements? Sandboxes were here first, a themepark is a watered down sandbox.
Not even a small stretch, especially when Smed has already mentioned there would be PvP in this game and sandbox elements.
He said he agrees wholeheartedly that sandbox games need open world pvp with real risk/rewards.
According to some people that doesn't mean EQ Next, even though EQ Next will be a sandbox.
Come August 2nd we'll find out for sure and see a whole new crop of threads pop up. Boy those are going to be fun read and taste the tears.
It may or may nto apply to EQN,it may just be Smeds personal taste and not the direction the game is taking.
The director of an entire game company, who has been almost exclusively using his twitter to drop hints about EQnext, would not talk about personal taste, because any sane person would realize that everyone hanging on his world will assume he's talking about EQNext.
I know there's a lot of confused and scared people who don't understand PvP, but attacking the OP for connecting the very close together dots is not the way to do this.
Really? Connecting the dots that weren't there in this case? You can't be serious...
The president of the company agreed that sandbox games should have open PvP and risk/reward. No mention of EQN in his reply. The executive producer of the EQ franchise replies that this is not a declaration of EQN features.
It's working better than they thought I would imagine
Originally posted by stragen001 Smedley needs to shut up and put his money where is mouth is........something which he has been historically poor at. We will see in August whether all these 'groundbreaking' and 'revolutionary' features he has been hinting are actually real.
You right. After all these years watching MMO's come and go i've learned that you should ALWAYS take everything a dev say about a game in development with a HUGE grain of salt.
Not just real, but something that a majority of us would even enjoy. They touted SWG's systems as fabulous, so much so, they had to completely revamp the game after severe losses of subscriptions.
Originally posted by stragen001 Smedley needs to shut up and put his money where is mouth is........something which he has been historically poor at. We will see in August whether all these 'groundbreaking' and 'revolutionary' features he has been hinting are actually real.
You right. After all these years watching MMO's come and go i've learned that you should ALWAYS take everything a dev say about a game in development with a HUGE grain of salt.
Not just real, but something that a majority of us would even enjoy. They touted SWG's systems as fabulous, so much so, they had to completely revamp the game after severe losses of subscriptions.
And yet pre cu had more subs than the nge, try harder.
Not even a small stretch, especially when Smed has already mentioned there would be PvP in this game and sandbox elements.
He said he agrees wholeheartedly that sandbox games need open world pvp with real risk/rewards.
According to some people that doesn't mean EQ Next, even though EQ Next will be a sandbox.
Come August 2nd we'll find out for sure and see a whole new crop of threads pop up. Boy those are going to be fun read and taste the tears.
It may or may nto apply to EQN,it may just be Smeds personal taste and not the direction the game is taking.
The director of an entire game company, who has been almost exclusively using his twitter to drop hints about EQnext, would not talk about personal taste, because any sane person would realize that everyone hanging on his world will assume he's talking about EQNext.
I know there's a lot of confused and scared people who don't understand PvP, but attacking the OP for connecting the very close together dots is not the way to do this.
I like how you edited out most of my post then lump me n with some imagined people who are scared and don't understand PvP.Well played Sir Troll,well played.
And we have been following the game so perhaps you can tell us what "facts" you are talking about?
Nope it's a new game but it's still going to be very familiar to EQ players.
It will be sandbox.
It will have Open World PVP. Smed doesn't specifically say EQ Next about this, but it's a response to a true Sandbox game having Open World PVP. Some have deluded themselves into thinking that the man in charge is going to agree wholeheartedly in a public forum that he agrees that Sandbox games need to have Open World PVP, but not put it in his own game. As if he has no control to tell his subordinates anything or that he would make public his own opinions about something that his very own game lacks.
It will be a parallel universe.
It will have a lot of involvement with Factions.
It will be on the PS4.
Crafting will play a large role. (Read player related content)
It will be closely aligned with the feel of the original EQ.
There's other stuff that's more vague (like the burning down forests, etc.)
Oh I think he said we like permadeath for EQN once too. so there's that.
It will also have themepark elements, as stated by Smedley himself.
What exactly are themepark elements? Sandboxes were here first, a themepark is a watered down sandbox.
Developer led content as in walking through amusement park rides. If it was purely a sandbox, they would only be implementing tools for player made content, but they are in fact offering developer made quests, raids and dynamic events. All of which are very much part of the themepark formula. Oh yeah, forgot that there will be classes, not an open skill system, yet another hallmark of themepark games. The closest thing I have seen to a real sandbox game was A Tale in the Desert.
On a personal note, I would like to point out that I would much more prefer a sandpark to a hardcore sandbox any day.
Well he actually said "biggest sandbox-style" MMO we've ever seen. That "-style" portion is pretty important since he later says that both dev content and player content are needed to keep up with content demand.
Originally posted by Aelious The president of the company agreed that sandbox games should have open PvP and risk/reward. No mention of EQN in his reply. The executive producer of the EQ franchise replies that this is not a declaration of EQN features.
It's working better than they thought I would imagine
Open PvP could mean PvP any where but only if you flag yourself...or only guild vs guild...or only faction vs faction....
Open PvP does NOT mean non consensual, FFA, full loot...
The problem is, people read something, their brain kicks in and then all sorts of shit comes out. And some of the 'FACTS' people are claiming are just downright laughable (not saying it might not turn out to be exactly what these people want, just that to state facts where there are none is laughable).
Originally posted by stragen001 Smedley needs to shut up and put his money where is mouth is........something which he has been historically poor at. We will see in August whether all these 'groundbreaking' and 'revolutionary' features he has been hinting are actually real.
All i know is ArcheAge and Age Of Wulin have some very good original features so i expect many of them to be present in EQN . I not talking about siege warfare i'm talking about things that happen in the world or a player can do.
ArcheAge has a very interactive world which is meant to be Smed main concept for EQN.
I agree it's an info cross meaning sludge-fest right now lol. Even if Smed had planned to reveal more now I wouldn't if I was him. This mess has riveted people more than they could have dreamed so far
Originally posted by Aelious Well he actually said "biggest sandbox-style" MMO we've ever seen. That "-style" portion is pretty important since he later says that both dev content and player content are needed to keep up with content demand.
Yeah people are too quick to read what they want and ignore the rest. I have hopes that the game could be huge but till it comes out I wouldn't be stupid enough to believe a word.
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The fact that the said the game will have as many classes as EQ but not as many as EQ2. That alone says this will not be a true sandbox.
I never said that factions with PVP was a fact. I do think in my opinion that there's a high probability that there will be Open World PVP in EQ Next. But yes I will concede that there is a possibility that the CEO of SOE could say that he agrees with sandbox games needing open world PVP and not have it in his own sandbox game. I find that prospect HIGHLY improbable. So much so that I put it in the fact column. That shouldn't be fact in of itself. I should of put the disclaimer High Possibility of Open World PVP in EQ Next would be more accurate.
Still waiting for this proof....
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
You right. After all these years watching MMO's come and go i've learned that you should ALWAYS take everything a dev say about a game in development with a HUGE grain of salt.
Ya know who use to alot to about stuff being groundbreaking...Peter Molyneux.
Remember how epic Fable was supposed to be (and basically every other game he ever was involved with). Be really careful getting hyped about the hype.
LOL
Smedley said EQ Next will be the largest sandbox MMO ever designed. That's a fact. IF he's lying, it's not.
If you mean fact that he's telling the truth, then no. We don't have anything of that nature. But then we could think that when MMORPG says we'll poop our pants, that they could be lying too. And Ten Ton Hammer could be lying as well. Heck everyone could be lying until we see it for ourselves. Even then many will argue with reality. So what's your point?
The director of an entire game company, who has been almost exclusively using his twitter to drop hints about EQnext, would not talk about personal taste, because any sane person would realize that everyone hanging on his world will assume he's talking about EQNext.
I know there's a lot of confused and scared people who don't understand PvP, but attacking the OP for connecting the very close together dots is not the way to do this.
What exactly are themepark elements? Sandboxes were here first, a themepark is a watered down sandbox.
Really? Connecting the dots that weren't there in this case? You can't be serious...
It's working better than they thought I would imagine
And the game will be very familiar to EQ player and they are not going for some big skill based system.
All this screams sandpark hybrid to me.
Not just real, but something that a majority of us would even enjoy. They touted SWG's systems as fabulous, so much so, they had to completely revamp the game after severe losses of subscriptions.
How can it be a sandpark or whatever that is, when he clearly stated it would be the biggest SANDBOX you've ever seen?
And yet pre cu had more subs than the nge, try harder.
I like how you edited out most of my post then lump me n with some imagined people who are scared and don't understand PvP.Well played Sir Troll,well played.
I think someone needs to go on twitter and ask Smeds directly and solve this mess :-)
Will this game be and open world PvP FFA sandbox yes or no. If nothing else his naturally vague reply will give everyone fodder until August 2nd!! :-p
Developer led content as in walking through amusement park rides. If it was purely a sandbox, they would only be implementing tools for player made content, but they are in fact offering developer made quests, raids and dynamic events. All of which are very much part of the themepark formula. Oh yeah, forgot that there will be classes, not an open skill system, yet another hallmark of themepark games. The closest thing I have seen to a real sandbox game was A Tale in the Desert.
On a personal note, I would like to point out that I would much more prefer a sandpark to a hardcore sandbox any day.
Open PvP could mean PvP any where but only if you flag yourself...or only guild vs guild...or only faction vs faction....
Open PvP does NOT mean non consensual, FFA, full loot...
The problem is, people read something, their brain kicks in and then all sorts of shit comes out. And some of the 'FACTS' people are claiming are just downright laughable (not saying it might not turn out to be exactly what these people want, just that to state facts where there are none is laughable).
All i know is ArcheAge and Age Of Wulin have some very good original features so i expect many of them to be present in EQN . I not talking about siege warfare i'm talking about things that happen in the world or a player can do.
ArcheAge has a very interactive world which is meant to be Smed main concept for EQN.
I agree it's an info cross meaning sludge-fest right now lol. Even if Smed had planned to reveal more now I wouldn't if I was him. This mess has riveted people more than they could have dreamed so far
He should have been doing this sooner lol
Yeah people are too quick to read what they want and ignore the rest. I have hopes that the game could be huge but till it comes out I wouldn't be stupid enough to believe a word.