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[Interview] Warhammer 40.000: Eternal Crusade: There Is Only WAR

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerThe Land of AZPosts: 16,643MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

When Behaviour Interactive and Games Workshop announced Warhammer 40k: Eternal Crusade during E3 2013, a lot of people were caught by surprise. Our team managed to catch up to Miguel Caron to find out more about how the game will work and much more. Check out our exclusive preview and then discuss it in the comments.

It’s been awhile since Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium dropped off the face of the earth.  Who knew that just a year after the closure of the THQ studio, we’d be here at E3 2013 talking about a brand new take on the 40K license as an MMO once more.  Only this time?  Well, this time Chaos Marines, Space Marines, Eldar, and Orks will all be duking it out on a massive scale while fending off the AI-controlled Tyranids in a universal struggle for power.  We spent time with Behaviour Studios Head Miguel Caron (formerly of Funcom Montreal and Anarchy Online as well as Age of Conan) talking about the studio’s ambitions and philosophy for their take on Games Workshop’s epic space fantasy.  Today, we have so much to tell you about what Behaviour has in store for all fans of the Waaagh.

Read more of Bill Murphy's Warhammer 40k: Eternal Crusade - There Is Only WAR.

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  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,474Member Uncommon

    WHICH CRAFTWORLD DAM IT??? (Bill you must ask that one...)

    Alaitoc/Biel Tan would be nice ;)!

     
  • VlackeVlacke BelgradePosts: 155Member Uncommon

    The fact that you have to pay in order to play a Space Marine in a WH40k "free to play" MMO is somewhat hilarious.

    Ork Boyz, seriously?

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148 1, NJPosts: 6,690Member
    Maybe wit won't look as cartoony like WAR was.  Until we see footage then lets just hope Warhammer will work this time.
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  • RusqueRusque Las Vegas, NVPosts: 2,229Member Uncommon

    I think I might have to resign myself and accept that there will never be a proper WH40K mmo in my lifetime.

    Are there no development companies out there with love for the WH40K universe that want to make it right? Seriously.

  • goofy3kgoofy3k warminsterPosts: 245Member Uncommon
    Excited for this glad to see someone else taking on a war 40k MMO. Also I think the free to play Ork Boyz idea is great. And they said its a premium free to play mmo, ie - premium stuff you pay for. Stop complaining and expecting everything to be free and given to you, the same mentality as people who play mmos and expect to be given everything for nothing.
  • soundsonicsoundsonic BudapestPosts: 15Member
    congratulations to all, but it could have been F2P for WAR
  • Four0SixFour0Six Missoula, MTPosts: 1,181Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Vlacke

    The fact that you have to pay in order to play a Space Marine in a WH40k "free to play" MMO is somewhat hilarious.

    Ork Boyz, seriously?

    You must not know about GW.......They sell tabletop games mostly as their money maker.....tabletop games that need, current MSRP, $125 minimum, in rulebooks just to play....Then....$800 in model cost, not including any and all supplies to finish them, to field an army for a 1500 point game.

     

    I am sure when some green visor wearing accountant came in all out of breath, and proclaimed "We, can call it "Free to Play", but charge for every little extra bit, and make far more money than with just a sub!!!" The Emperor himself raised his undead head and gave his blessing.

     

    Another GW money grab. But hey they are getting to beta in 18 months...that screams a "quality" game.

  • VlackeVlacke BelgradePosts: 155Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by goofy3k
    Excited for this glad to see someone else taking on a war 40k MMO. Also I think the free to play Ork Boyz idea is great. And they said its a premium free to play mmo, ie - premium stuff you pay for. Stop complaining and expecting everything to be free and given to you, the same mentality as people who play mmos and expect to be given everything for nothing.

    We have a first fanboy of this game, congratulations.

    Aside the fact that nobody in this thread said anything about expecting everything to be handed to them for free (so your little rant about that is misplaced and therefore irrelevant) you should know that in a WH40k universe Space Marines aren't considered premium stuff, they are practically the CORE, last time i checked Warhammer 40k didn't gain it's reputation and popularity because people were dazzled by Ork Boyz.

  • mmobootsymmobootsy RotterdamPosts: 48Member
    Cautiously anticipatory...

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  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,474Member Uncommon

    Oh forgot another one of my fav Craftworlds: Lugganath. It'd do just FINE as well.

    If any of you catched ANY glimpse of Eldar-which colour were they wearing? White/green(Biel-Tan)? Blue/Yellow(Alaitoc)? Yellow/Blue(Iyanden)? Black(Ulthwe)? Black/Orange(Lugganath)? This also eases asking the question which Craftworld is represented...

    And about f2p: It's a fair model. This way there'll be LOTS of Orks, just as it should be. Though, there is a better idea that came to my mind just a few minutes ago. What if the mass troops(Scouts/Slugga+Shoota boys/Guardians/Heretics) were f2p instead and you had to purchase advanced units(Sternguard Vets/Nobz/Aspect Warriors/CSM blessed with a Mark of X)? Would that be better? That way we'd have right n proper rank n file soldiers/meatshields(f2p players) while the Elites/Fast Attacks/etc would be relatively few in number. I think that this payment option would suit 40k as a glove fits a hand. In the future IG would have Guardsmen as f2p and Tau would have Kroot(MAYBE Pathfinders) as f2p.

    The other choice is to have all the "Troop" units as f2p and everything else either earnable or purchasable...

    Would either of those two work?

  • CerbearusCerbearus phoenix, AZPosts: 14Member
    Love Warhammer, hate F2P. I mean I understand why they would do it, but my favorite business model is B2P like GW and GW2. Buy it, and you own it. I just hope it wont be a nickel-and-dime F2P and it is more of a pay $X and get this entire race and all their stuff, with some aesthetic stuff in some cash shop or whatever
  • SlampigSlampig Chantilly, VAPosts: 2,376Member Uncommon
    Lost me with having to buy the rest of the races to unlock their campaigns. I personally don't like the Ork's, being forced into that kind of sucks.

    That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  • monarc333monarc333 New York, NYPosts: 611Member Uncommon
    I love any Warhammer 40k, from the books to the game. I'm hopeful we get a good game. But this might be one of those games where I dont care how well it plays, only that I get to play a space marine and shoot some orks!
  • evilastroevilastro EdinburghPosts: 4,270Member
    Making F2P players 5x less powerful than a paid player. Haha yeah I can just see the free players flooding in to play Orks. Hahahahahaha.
  • GorweGorwe Ald'RuhnPosts: 2,474Member Uncommon
    Yeah they REALLY should use one of my models instead of that...eh wtf is it anyway model.
  • VassagoMaelVassagoMael Covington, LAPosts: 555Member
    As soon as I read free to play I lost interest. I want a game that is designed around being fun, not designed around ways to nickle and dime me. Or in the case of NWO, try and become a millionaire by selling lemonade for $1000 a cup.

    Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
    Subscription = Actual content updates!

  • risenbonesrisenbones Galesburg, ILPosts: 194Member

    Making Ork Boyz free and needing 5 boyz to take down 1 Space Marine.  I dunno but that sounds like they maybe understand the lore of 40k better than most attempts have in the past.  With them being free which would make them the zerg playable race by default those who pay to become a Space Marine will be able to feel like a 40k Space Marine which they wouldn't be able to do with B2P or subscription models (at least compared to Orks).

     

    Dunno I guess count me with the slightly optimistic wait and see mob.  

    The lesser of two evils is still evil.

    There is nothing more dangerous than a true believer.

  • VaporsVapors Fr.Posts: 407Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Normandy7
    Maybe wit won't look as cartoony like WAR was.  Until we see footage then lets just hope Warhammer will work this time.

    This is cartoony which you are mentioning, is based on the warhammer figures long long time ago... If they would change that it's like making a pokemon game without an anime style

  • mightpyromightpyro Toronto, ONPosts: 20Member
    They should at least have a Imperial Guard soldier as another free class beacuse otherwise it'll be 1000 guys versus 1 guy from the other faction.
  • reploidxreploidx Pittsburgh, PAPosts: 320Member Uncommon
    Granted the payments could change when 2015 rolls around. Or they just might add different units for F2P people (like scouts from space marines, initiates for the Iron Warriors and so on) But if it doesn't? Well it looks like I'm paying money for mah spess mahrines!
  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Nevada, MOPosts: 2,732Member Common
    Originally posted by Vlacke

    The fact that you have to pay in order to play a Space Marine in a WH40k "free to play" MMO is somewhat hilarious.

    Ork Boyz, seriously?

     

    /agreed.
    Orks? No thanks. I always pay for my entertainment, and I guess I'll being up-fronting this one if I want to try it. No way being an ork will tell me what I want to know about this game.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • AI724AI724 Lansdale, PAPosts: 211Member Uncommon
    I WILL play it! .... just because I like Warhammer (sci-fi).

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  • BadaboomBadaboom Moose Jaw, SKPosts: 2,380Member
    That sounds really cool the way the F2P zerg will be playing the orc boyz and pay players as the other races.  Almost brilliant.
     
  • hfztthfztt GlostrupPosts: 840Member Uncommon

    "The free race available to everyone will be the Orks.  But free players will only be able to progress through the game’s content Ork Boyz: five of which are needed to take down one Space Marine."

    Nice idea. Personally I dont give a chance in hell of working, but at least they are trying something different.

    But it will be very hard to argue that it is not pay2win when the you can pay for five times teh strength. The can ofcourse balance that out by balancing gains for kill so they scale equally, but... Yeah.

  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Posts: 2,114Member Uncommon

    Two years = 2 eternity's in the gaming industry.

    I have to say I'm really getting tired of these  unceasing crumblets these game company's throw out there expecting players to scramble from info piece to info piece in frantic anticipation of more information.(I can't blame them for trying to hype future sales of a completed product they expect to sell.But as a consumer of information...i'm really getting tired with the very long time from the first info crumb till a game launch)

     

    Thats how bad the mmog industry is right now...that there is a sizable segment of the populace that  hangs on every word from a company making a game they are interested in.I would think that after a while the appetite of an increasing number of game info consumers would begin to diminish.

    ESOL and the 2014 launch comes to mind

    SWTOR

    AOC and the two year dance of the 200 veils(info crumblets)

    WAR

    and the list goes on......

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