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Should there be hunger in an mmorpg?
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Yeah it will probably play a huge part in World of Darkness from CCPhttps://www.facebook.com/FUtilez ||| https://twitter.com/FUtilez ||| https://www.youtube.com/futilezguild
Thirst and hunger works perfect in DayZ so yes would nice in sandbox seeking food and water so you stay strong.
If sandbox emphasizing survival? Hell yes, if done right its great in keeping players needing to create ways to survive and breaking up their tasks giving them another challenge to fill in. You NEED things to do in a sandbox, and while you can call it 'tedious' having to eat is one of those, giving something to 'work' towards in order to mitigate the need to worry about basics and 'progress' so to speak.
To often sandboxes neglect survival and as such it just becomes a massive brainless gank fest with little thought behind it. Having elements involved to actually derail that can help to mitigate the 'stupid' 'ganking for no reason is totally meaningful pvp' bs to some degree.
Definitely not, unless its part of the game itself.
That means, if you would create a Sims MMO, then yes. Because the whole game would be about daily needs, and hunger would be another variable to juggle and it would relate to the other factors.
In a standard adventure MMO though such earthly needs do NOT add to gameplay. Instead, they distract from gameplay, and they are repetitive and pointless. Thus they are out of place and should definitely be left out, because they make your game worse instead of better.
Remember, this is a game. Realism just for realism is completely pointless. Dont fill your game up with garbage that nobody needs. Instead, strive for a great gaming experience.
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Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I do. I want him barf after drinking to many brewskies too!
Why wouldn't you be content with purely cosmetic food. For instance, there's food, you just don't have to eat if you don't want to. There's no benefits for eating nor any penalties for not eating.
Would you be happy with that?
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Actually lots of good dungeon crawling games have hunger in them. My favourite RPG of all time, Ultima VII, also has food. I've never really seen it as a chore in that game. It's just another resource to pay attention to. There's also plenty of sources of food. You can buy it, you can make it, you can steal it or you can hunt for it by killing deer or cows. It meshes in really well with the game which has an incredibly detailed virtual world.
Someone also mentioned it would add a lot of UI elements to have stuff like hunger. Ultima VII is just one of many examples of this not being true at all. When a member of your party is hungry he'll simply say that (scrolling text over his head appears which may say something like "I'm a bit hungry.") and if you look at his stats card there's a knife and fork icon on it.
Legend of Grimrock has a hunger bar on the character sheet and simply puts a small debuff icon over the character portrait in the main UI if he's hungry.
I'm going to say no. I recall playing Xyson and there was hunger and thirst in the game and as a new player it seemed all I did was gather food to keep from starving, or run down to nearby creeks/lakes to drink, which took considerable time just to execute once you got there. It wasn't very fun after a short time.
I even remember playing Ultima VI if I recall correctly and being annoyed that my party of adventurers had to carry food and eat regularly, seemed like they were always asking for a snack break.
So count me out, while I do favor more virtual worlds, we can skip things like potty breaks, getting haircuts, taking showers along with eating/drinking to survive.
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You just named all the reasons i much prefer to look at Yellowstone pictures on the web instead of going there. Immersion is not good fun when it makes me miserable.
And in MMORPG, there is no reason to pay any price if we don't want to. It is a 100% artificial environment that is build to entertain. Nothing more nothing less.
It is amazing every topic ,i keep pointing to >>>FFXI.
Food is very important and done quite well.You have choices from simply padding base states like STR or INT or VIT or boosting attack or defense or accuracy.The only sneaky thing i don't like is the way FFXI and many games hide the real way not only food but how stats work.Example you see a boost like 25% attack but in reality you might see 5-10 more damage,some times even less all because the way the formulas are done.
I did not like the total flip flop that say EQ2 does where food is predominantly only effective after battle,very unrealistic.You should feel the full effects of food for as long as it affects you after eating it.
Games are already bad enough with so little supporting the fact we are playing ROLE PLAYING games,so imo the more the merrier.
I would actually be supportive of say you sitting down for 5 minutes to eat a full course meal that gives better effects and lasts longer.or you have CHOICE you could simply pop a cookie or cracker and gain less effects and lasts a shorter time.Personally i like the way FFXI does food,it just seems to balance out and feel effective but not over done,the way heal pots are done in games which is ridiculous.
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Let's just say there really aren't many people quite as hung up on "living world" as you are, and leave it at that.
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Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Exactly. Hunger/Thirst has been a part of RPG gaming since its invention. I neither want to exclude that, nor add more vulgar aspects (excretion, reproduction, 30-day-female-cycles, etc.).
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In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit
Yet...following his own chain of 'immersion', you can arrive at those end points just as easily as the eating end point.
Understand everything he's saying, and everything every other eating fan will say (this debate is 20 years old, after all).
Just don't need it.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Understand everything he's saying, and everything every other eating fan will say (this debate is 20 years old, after all).
Just don't need it.
I don't recall those items coming up for debate, ever.
Luckily, i don't need you to like me to enjoy video games. -nariusseldon.
In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit