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Which Payment Model Do You Prefer In Your MMORPG?
Tokenaru
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Sub no cash shops..
1) Sub
2) F2p with $9 sub option.
99) B2P - Charging 6 months up front to get in the door is a scam.
-p0nk1n-
I couldnt agree more I hate being nickel and dimed and feeling like im not getting the same level of enjoyment as other players due to the contents of my wallet.
Sub/B2P no cash shop.
That way I know exactly how much money I'll need to be on level playing field with everyone else.
Your list excluded the traditional payment method... merely B2P.
I prefer to buy the game and play it. No subs. No cash shops. If you like the game, you buy the expansions as they are released. If you don't, you don't buy the expansions. Simple model... worked perfectly for years... wish they'd return to it.
So I've been playing Age of Wushu lately, having fun. It's f2p with cash shop which I normally hate, but so far it's ok because it's not in my face and I've been playing fine without spending money.
However another reason to dislike cash shops came to me when I joined a guild. In a game I play for free, I'm put in a postions where I may have to trust strangers with assets that are potentially worth real money. And you know what? That is not fun. Takes a lot of the fun (the reason I play) out of the game. The guild wants contributions of materials. And as I was gathering some and handing them in I realized that in giving away what is worth potentially real money, it took the play out of the realm of play.
It really changes the way I look at the game, and that is a shame.
Not a surprise, but I voted sub w/no cash shop. When I'm in game, I just want to play.
You do realize you pay box fees for most sub games as well, right?
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B2P all day long. F2P in its absence.
Subscription is a dieing revenue model and its been shown time and time again over the last 5 or 6 years that it is a barrier to entry, retards growth, and makes far less money for the game then any of the other models.
SUP
We?re all dead, just say it.
Don't care.
Too many people are worried about pay2win nonsense. Who cares? If they want to subsidize you playing for free why does it bust your chops? You mad because rich people have advantages over you? Welcome to capitalism, kid.
Don't want to pay the company for their work? think they should release a game for free because that's how all the others are doing it? Think that Buy2Play is too much money? Welcome to capitalism, kid.
Hate Pay2Play schemes that nickle and dime you for things other games give you for free? Then don't play! You aren't entitled to play this game just because your buddies are! live with the restrictions or pony up the dough. Welcome to capitalism, kid.
It's all the same folks, it's YOU and your CRYING that is the only difference between the business models.
'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.
When your head is stuck in the sand, your ass becomes the only recognizable part of you.
No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than one which you've become familiar.
How to become a millionaire:
Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.
Its easy to understand why mmorpg.com forum posters love the P2P model when you take into consideration the love it has sandbox MMO and any nostalgic MMO.
Do not fret, the future of MMO's are B2P or F2P as is solid themepark design and other new wave styles. Mmorpg.com forum'ites are like those old stogey cigar smoking conservatives who shun anything new and progressive.
SUP
Sub, no cash shop.
As far as the subscription goes, I want the game to continue to improve as well as have quality maintenance. I also want the GMs to be involved in the plots and stories that I'd like to see running without being fixed.
Cash shops, well, no matter what is sold, it takes away from possible game play experience. I don't want that any more than I want players "buying win" for anything, even seemingly unimportant items.
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What I prefer changes based on what amount of time I want to spend or the type of the game it is. PS2- love playing it as F2P. I didn't really like the idea of paying a sub for Planetside1. Well, that's MMOFPS, not MMORPG.
If I have the time and want to get heavily involved in a deep MMORPG I'd be very happy for it to be P2P with no dev time wasted on cash shop crap. But of course there isn't a deep MMORPG like that (that I haven't played already).
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I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
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Unlike Single Player Games MMOs are a service. Single Player games you buy the game and can play it as much as you like. All storage of your data is managed by your own computer.
MMOs on the other hand can't have the data saved on the client because of the potential for a player to hack their Game Data. Massive amounts of simulation needs to be handled on Remote servers managed by the Game Development Company to prevent cheating. There for it becomes a service and a very expensive service at that. The money to maintain that service must be gotten from somewhere (You the players)... With out a constant stream of income the service wouldn't support it's self and would be shut down pretty quickly because of Lack of funds.
Personally F2P with a cash shop or Subscription based games are cool with me because I KNOW it takes a ton of money to maintain the service I love to play.
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Sub no cash shop with 2 caveats.
First. I want value for money. By that I mean well fleshed out classes/skill systems, a decently developed world, enough content or tools to drive the gameplay if it's a sandbox.
Second. No locked content. If I'm paying the same subs as everyone else I want access to everything, no exceptions.
I'm starting to agree with this.
I've "tried" many F2P games and haven't played ANY of them for more than a week. Conversely, I've also tried several sub games and I've usually played a minimum of 3 months (exception FFXIV) and some a couple for years.
So, from my personal sample...Sub all the way.
If you drop the constant 'Kid" out of your comments, this is well articulated.
I'd like to add:
You'd think these "sub" charges being asked for are mortgages the way people rail against them (ever heard of a 1 bedroom sub for $600 a month?). 15 bucks is less than a movie and a popcorn/drink and that only buys 2 hours of entertainment at best.
Further, the idea that companies are making more and consumers are paying less is non-sensical and I will never understand the logic.
Of course 90% of F2P games offer an advatage for paying or pay only content, and typically that advantage costs alot more than a sub would. This has lead to a meandering populace of freemium gaming where people go digest some free content and then move to the next copy-cat crap title a pusblisher is pushing to the players willing to spend a hundred bucks a month so he can feel more powerful than the next guy in the newest title. And have a cute pet toO!
At the end of the day, F2P will only hurt the gamers who wind up paying more for less. What used to be a straight up deal: 50 bucks for a box and 15 a month for all content unrestricted has become a huge tangle in these cash shops and 'bonus' peddling titles.
New MMOs are being designed by marketting strategists with economic models designed to part people from their cash based on signifcant amounts of research. Now do you have a clue as to why they are bad? They arent being designed by people interested in fun game play, challenging envirnoments or innovative mechanics. The modern MMO is designed from the ground up by an MBA in a suit caluclating how to part fools from their money.
If a game is good be willing to pay for it and understand that the most fair deal is usually the one you can understand without reading fine print or scrolling thru pages of crap in a cash shop. Demand access to all content fairly and be willing to pay for it.
The poster above is right, a company will find ways to make money, we just need to steer them in a direction that is most fair and balanced for us.