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LF a good, gear based MMO

XstylesXstyles mariboPosts: 107Member

That's right. I'm tired of these makeup games like "guild wars 2" and "warframe". When I switch gear, I want to feel the difference, not just being getting the same sword, but with a different colour.

 

I want a quality game with actual progress that you can't just skip every patch (this excludes WoW btw). And it shouldn't be a 10 year old game. Prefferably, it should be a relative new one with different combat than just "stand still and click".

Are my criterias way out of control, or does such a game in fact exist ? :) payment method doesn't matter. I'll gladly pay if the quality delivers.

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  • VoiidiinVoiidiin Barrow, AKPosts: 817Member

    Well umm, this might come across as sarcastic, but its not.

    Go play WoW its very gear driven and it is not 10 years old.

    Honestly if what you want is a gear driven game why not play the single one that has pioneered this type of gameplay ? 

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  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,206Member Uncommon

    nothing good was produced since 2007.

     

    just like the city-buidling genre, the mmo genre is coming to an end. not suddenly, cheap mony grabs are released all the time but we've been watching for 6 years as each new 'industry-saving promise' launches, it's crap, dies or goes comatose.

     

    so no op, no such thing exists that's worth playing.

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  • udonudon Durham, NCPosts: 1,768Member Uncommon

    If you are discounting WoW, EQ2, LOTR and Rift I guess I would mention TSW and Terra.  Those are the most gear based games I can think of off hand of the new generation.

    For better or worse I think Wildstar is going to be the best hope for a true progression based game we have.  

  • RobokappRobokapp Dublin, OHPosts: 5,206Member Uncommon

    above poster most likely means TERA not Terra.

     

    yes, both exist. no they're not the same thing.

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  • HerbinLegendHerbinLegend Detroit, MIPosts: 10Member

    I would recommend trying both Darkfall Unholy Wars and Mortal Online, both of which are from the smaller, independent dev sector; both games have a  focus on pvp and clan versus clan with full looting, yet they offer up vastly different game play experiences between the two.

     

    Maybe one of them could sate your appetite for something different. 

     

     

     

     

     

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  • VicodinTacoVicodinTaco Erie, PAPosts: 735Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Voiidiin

    Well umm, this might come across as sarcastic, but its not.

    Go play WoW its very gear driven and it is not 10 years old.

    Honestly if what you want is a gear driven game why not play the single one that has pioneered this type of gameplay ? 

    He said in like the second sentence he wants progression that isn't skipped over every patch or expansion.

     

    WoW is basically instalevel 80, skip 70% of the game, then play.

  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAPosts: 1,160Member Uncommon

    You want a gear progression game but yet you automatically discount WoW because every expansion your gear level basically resets(not patch like you said).

     

    I hate to break it to you man but thats how it is in a gear progression game. Gear is the ultimate progression tool in those games. It only makes sense that once the level cap rises, the new gear is better than the older/lower level gear. So it seems to me you don't actually know what you want, or that was just a thinly veiled attempt at bashing WoW.

     

    And to the people who told you about Tera, don't bother cause thats the exact same as WoW, only worse cause you can buy the 2nd best in slot armor/weapons with gold, and best in slot jewelry. Also can buy about half the materials needed to craft the best in slot set.  Least you had to actually raid and earn your gear in WoW.

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  • VicodinTacoVicodinTaco Erie, PAPosts: 735Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Sephiroso

    You want a gear progression game but yet you automatically discount WoW because every expansion your gear level basically resets(not patch like you said).

     

    I hate to break it to you man but thats how it is in a gear progression game. Gear is the ultimate progression tool in those games. It only makes sense that once the level cap rises, the new gear is better than the older/lower level gear. So it seems to me you don't actually know what you want, or that was just a thinly veiled attempt at bashing WoW.

     

    And to the people who told you about Tera, don't bother cause thats the exact same as WoW, only worse cause you can buy the 2nd best in slot armor/weapons with gold, and best in slot jewelry. Also can buy about half the materials needed to craft the best in slot set.  Least you had to actually raid and earn your gear in WoW.

    WTF are you talking about?  He knows exactly what he wants and it isn't WoW.  What are you spinning words for? 

  • AmjocoAmjoco Layton, UTPosts: 4,782Member Uncommon

    I'm not sure why folks think there is no gear grind in GW2. Although it isn't as crucial to have, it is still a challenge to get the top gear in the game. I honestly can't grasp making or purchasing a full set of Legendary gear. And yes, the gear does make a difference in the game.

    Anyway, like others out there I would go back to WoW or Rift. /shrug 

    No disrespect, but if you are a true mmorpg fan you probably know every game out there that is available with what you want. /double shrug

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  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAPosts: 1,160Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by VicodinTaco
    Originally posted by Sephiroso

    You want a gear progression game but yet you automatically discount WoW because every expansion your gear level basically resets(not patch like you said).

     

    I hate to break it to you man but thats how it is in a gear progression game. Gear is the ultimate progression tool in those games. It only makes sense that once the level cap rises, the new gear is better than the older/lower level gear. So it seems to me you don't actually know what you want, or that was just a thinly veiled attempt at bashing WoW.

     

    And to the people who told you about Tera, don't bother cause thats the exact same as WoW, only worse cause you can buy the 2nd best in slot armor/weapons with gold, and best in slot jewelry. Also can buy about half the materials needed to craft the best in slot set.  Least you had to actually raid and earn your gear in WoW.

    WTF are you talking about?  He knows exactly what he wants and it isn't WoW.  What are you spinning words for? 

    Because of the fact that he's here asking us what game to play. He clearly doesn't know what he wants. Just like the boster above me said. If he's an actual mmo player then he should know whats out there by now and his only choices for the type of game he wants to play is to suck it up and go back to WoW or one of its lesser incarnations, or continue waiting for the next big thing.

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  • Vion1xVion1x nakskovPosts: 188Member
    Originally posted by Sephiroso
    Originally posted by VicodinTaco
    Originally posted by Sephiroso

    You want a gear progression game but yet you automatically discount WoW because every expansion your gear level basically resets(not patch like you said).

     

    I hate to break it to you man but thats how it is in a gear progression game. Gear is the ultimate progression tool in those games. It only makes sense that once the level cap rises, the new gear is better than the older/lower level gear. So it seems to me you don't actually know what you want, or that was just a thinly veiled attempt at bashing WoW.

     

    And to the people who told you about Tera, don't bother cause thats the exact same as WoW, only worse cause you can buy the 2nd best in slot armor/weapons with gold, and best in slot jewelry. Also can buy about half the materials needed to craft the best in slot set.  Least you had to actually raid and earn your gear in WoW.

    WTF are you talking about?  He knows exactly what he wants and it isn't WoW.  What are you spinning words for? 

    Because of the fact that he's here asking us what game to play. He clearly doesn't know what he wants. Just like the boster above me said. If he's an actual mmo player then he should know whats out there by now and his only choices for the type of game he wants to play is to suck it up and go back to WoW or one of its lesser incarnations, or continue waiting for the next big thing.

    thats what i call an assumption o.O

     

    op: I'd without doubt recommend you Tera, the combat is aim based or so called lock-on skills, very fun combat system imo. and gear is a big part of the game, it makes a huge diff.

  • VicodinTacoVicodinTaco Erie, PAPosts: 735Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Sephiroso
    Originally posted by VicodinTaco
    Originally posted by Sephiroso

    You want a gear progression game but yet you automatically discount WoW because every expansion your gear level basically resets(not patch like you said).

     

    I hate to break it to you man but thats how it is in a gear progression game. Gear is the ultimate progression tool in those games. It only makes sense that once the level cap rises, the new gear is better than the older/lower level gear. So it seems to me you don't actually know what you want, or that was just a thinly veiled attempt at bashing WoW.

     

    And to the people who told you about Tera, don't bother cause thats the exact same as WoW, only worse cause you can buy the 2nd best in slot armor/weapons with gold, and best in slot jewelry. Also can buy about half the materials needed to craft the best in slot set.  Least you had to actually raid and earn your gear in WoW.

    WTF are you talking about?  He knows exactly what he wants and it isn't WoW.  What are you spinning words for? 

    Because of the fact that he's here asking us what game to play. He clearly doesn't know what he wants. Just like the boster above me said. If he's an actual mmo player then he should know whats out there by now and his only choices for the type of game he wants to play is to suck it up and go back to WoW or one of its lesser incarnations, or continue waiting for the next big thing.

    He said he wanted a gear based game that isn't WoW.

     

    So try to wrap your head around that.  Tryyyyy realllllyyy haaaaaarrrrd.

  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAPosts: 1,160Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by VicodinTaco
    Originally posted by Sephiroso
    Originally posted by VicodinTaco
    Originally posted by Sephiroso

    You want a gear progression game but yet you automatically discount WoW because every expansion your gear level basically resets(not patch like you said).

     

    I hate to break it to you man but thats how it is in a gear progression game. Gear is the ultimate progression tool in those games. It only makes sense that once the level cap rises, the new gear is better than the older/lower level gear. So it seems to me you don't actually know what you want, or that was just a thinly veiled attempt at bashing WoW.

     

    And to the people who told you about Tera, don't bother cause thats the exact same as WoW, only worse cause you can buy the 2nd best in slot armor/weapons with gold, and best in slot jewelry. Also can buy about half the materials needed to craft the best in slot set.  Least you had to actually raid and earn your gear in WoW.

    WTF are you talking about?  He knows exactly what he wants and it isn't WoW.  What are you spinning words for? 

    Because of the fact that he's here asking us what game to play. He clearly doesn't know what he wants. Just like the boster above me said. If he's an actual mmo player then he should know whats out there by now and his only choices for the type of game he wants to play is to suck it up and go back to WoW or one of its lesser incarnations, or continue waiting for the next big thing.

    He said he wanted a gear based game that isn't WoW.

     

    So try to wrap your head around that.  Tryyyyy realllllyyy haaaaaarrrrd.

    Knowing what you don't want isn't knowing what you want. Now what did i say? I said he doesn't know what he wants.

     

    So try to wrap your head around that. Tryyyyy realllllyyy Haaaaaaarrrrd.

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  • VicodinTacoVicodinTaco Erie, PAPosts: 735Member Uncommon

    I'm surprised you didn't suggest WoW for the 3rd time.

     

    Here are some games I would just start downloading overnight and give them a try.  I've enjoyed all of them and as far as I know they are free.

     

    Tera

    Path of Exile

    The Secret World

    Age of Conan

    Forsaken World

    Vindictus

     

    Vindictus and Tera break it up a little from the standard combat mechanics but it's not going to blow your mind or anything. 

     

  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAPosts: 1,160Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by VicodinTaco

    I'm surprised you didn't suggest WoW for the 3rd time.

     

    Here are some games I would just start downloading overnight and give them a try.  I've enjoyed all of them and as far as I know they are free.

     

    Tera

    Path of Exile

    The Secret World

    Age of Conan

    Forsaken World

    Vindictus

     

    Vindictus and Tera break it up a little from the standard combat mechanics but it's not going to blow your mind or anything. 

     

    wow did you seriously just list Tera? like really? Tera has the same problems WoW has yet you give me so much shit for listing WoW and you go and list Tera. Thanks for making my day man, seriously, you made me fart from laughing so hard.

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  • VicodinTacoVicodinTaco Erie, PAPosts: 735Member Uncommon

    Go ahead, suggest WoW again.  Private message him and say "I suggest suck it up and play WoW".

     

     

  • SephirosoSephiroso Marietta, GAPosts: 1,160Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by VicodinTaco

    Go ahead, suggest WoW again.  Private message him and say "I suggest suck it up and play WoW".

     

     

    first off, i never even suggested WoW. i merely told him his options. and that was one of said options. go troll someone else bud.

     

    also like how you didn't even acknowledge the fact that tera suffers the same "skipping gear" problem that the OP doesn't like as WoW.

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  • VicodinTacoVicodinTaco Erie, PAPosts: 735Member Uncommon
    Nobody cares anyways.
  • eckardteckardt FaroPosts: 47Member

    Rift and AoC

  • XstylesXstyles mariboPosts: 107Member

    Hey guys, Thanks for the loads of responses. As I said, I dislike WoW, mostly because the way you just skip raid content every raid patch, because of Justice points or whatever it's called now. I don't want to be able to skip progress like that.. Also, I'm completely burned out in WoW. It just doesn't appeal to me anymore.

     

    For those claiming that gear s hard to get in GW2, I got to level 80 and got full exotic gear in less than 2 months of extremely casual play. I don't care about the legendaries in that game, because it's only the colour of the weapon that changes. The stats and damage remain the same.

     

    I've been checking out Wildstar. It looks promising, but there's still a while untill that arrives. Also, it just seem to be yet another WoW copy. I think that it will look and feel too much like WoW for me to be drawn to it.

     

    I'm gonna DL Tera when I get home and give it a shot :)

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  • usuckmmorpgcomusuckmmorpgcom c, KYPosts: 1,348Member
    Hello?!? WoW.
  • sakersaker harrisburg, PAPosts: 993Member Uncommon


    Originally posted by HerbinLegend
    I would recommend trying both Darkfall Unholy Wars and Mortal Online, both of which are from the smaller, independent dev sector; both games have a  focus on pvp and clan versus clan with full looting, yet they offer up vastly different game play experiences between the two. Maybe one of them could sate your appetite for something different.  

    Ha! good luck getting that crap-storm mortal to even work!

  • NewfrNewfr MoscowPosts: 130Member
    Originally posted by Xstyles

     As I said, I dislike WoW, mostly because the way you just skip raid content every raid patch

    Mate, that what happens in ALL gear progression games. Just why you need to raid old raid dungeons to get outdated gear noone needs now after new addon with new more powerful gear?

  • XstylesXstyles mariboPosts: 107Member
    Originally posted by Newfr
    Originally posted by Xstyles

     As I said, I dislike WoW, mostly because the way you just skip raid content every raid patch

    Mate, that what happens in ALL gear progression games. Just why you need to raid old raid dungeons to get outdated gear noone needs now after new addon with new more powerful gear?

    It didn't happen in vanilla WoW. I just feel screwed over whenever I grind my butt off to get some gear, then there's a patch and everyone and their grandmother are running around in the same gear with little to no effort.

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  • AndistotleAndistotle TrondheimPosts: 74Member Uncommon
    Age of conan.. skill-based combat, and gear progression... difficult raids and dungeons as well. amazing game, with 12 different and unque classes.. the game is in it best shape ever now, and is worth a try.
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