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[Preview] World of Warcraft: The Solo Scenario System

SBFordSBFord Associate Editor - News ManagerThe Land of AZPosts: 16,610MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon

With the latest World of Warcraft game update, players now have the opportunity to advance the Thunder Isle story line through a variety of solo mini games. We've take a good look at the solo scenario system and have a great analysis to share. Read on before heading to the comments to leave your thoughts.

The single player scenarios that were introduced in patch 5.2 come in two varieties. The first scenario is the Troves of the Thunder King which is a time-based mission in which you try to grab as much loot as you can before a five minute timer expires. The other type of solo scenarios are linked to the Isle of Thunder progression. As each stage of the Isle is unlocked, a one-time scenario becomes available that furthers the story of the assault. These allow players to see the story unfold in the event they’re not logged in when a stage is completed.

Read more of Reza Lackey's The WoW Factor: The Solo Scenario System.

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  • WellzyCWellzyC Stillwater, MNPosts: 557Member Uncommon

     

    yeah... um...

     

    lets take a lesson from every singe failed mmo since 2005, and create more solo scripted content.... because that has worked so well  in the past

     

    *blows the sarcasm horn*

    The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.

    The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, solo Questing, Cut-Scenes...


    www.CeaselessGuild.com

  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Managing Editor Berea, OHPosts: 2,362MMORPG.COM Staff Uncommon
    I dunno, I like the first profession idea. Kind of a sort of housing, that.
  • expressoexpresso mePosts: 2,183Member Uncommon
    sounds like yet more stuff to do... how can that be a bad thing?
  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,970Member Uncommon

    Can't these 'solo' scenarios actually be done with other people? I'm pretty sure they can. They are one time only though but if you and your friends start it together... you can do it all.. together. (not the troves one.

    You will also see other players in the... “Pharios”.. that are on the same stage as you. They are not solo instances.

     
     
     
  • Mariner-80Mariner-80 Winchester, VAPosts: 347Member
    Originally posted by Reizla

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    It always amuses me to see people equate "solo" with "easy". I figure people must just not play very many games to make such statements.

    Group content can be both easy and difficult, as can solo content.

    If your gripe is having solo content in an MMO, then that's something else again. But the "solo = easy" statement is just ... ill-informed.

  • WellzyCWellzyC Stillwater, MNPosts: 557Member Uncommon

     

    I dont mean to be so negative about this subject, its just that im losing patiance with it.

     

    Solo scripted content has become such a cancer to the mmo genre... games like Defiance, Secret world, swtor, gw2..  they have such a rediculis amount of bs solo scripted content that the game is just so shallow and bad.

     

    Mmos dont need all this scripted crap.. it is expensive and tedius, or at the very best, lack luster.

    Depth of systems and game world > linear solo content

     

    It needs to go away.

    The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.

    The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, solo Questing, Cut-Scenes...


    www.CeaselessGuild.com

  • VannorVannor YorkshirePosts: 2,970Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by WellzyC

    I dont mean to be so negative about this subject, its just that im losing patiance with it.

    Solo scripted content has become such a cancer to the mmo genre... games like Defiance, Secret world, swotor, gw2..  they have such a rediculis amount of bs solo scripted content that the game is just so shallow and bad.

    Mmos dont need all this scripted crap.. it is expensive and almost always really bad or at the very best, lack luster.

    It needs to go away.

     

    This article, blog..whatever it is, is misleading. It is not all solo scripted content. Most of it is phased public content. Other players will be there with you if they at the same stage as you. It's more like public phasing.

  • observerobserver Houston, TXPosts: 3,006Member Uncommon
    I actually tried this yesterday.  I liked it and t hought it was fun, however, it shouldn't be in an MMO.  I would rather have more group content being worked on.
  • augustgraceaugustgrace Cottonwood, CAPosts: 624Member Uncommon

    Honestly more solo end game content, is the only thing that would bring me back to WoW.  I like the world and lore, but the majority of the community is composed of a**hats and neckbeards.

    Blizzard is far more crafty than people give them credit for.  If solo content was causing games to fail as some are claiming, then Blizzard would never adopt it.  

  • Clicks619Clicks619 San Diego, CAPosts: 7Member
    Some solo content works for me. Many in the MMO crowd have grown up. We've got jobs families on top of everything else. Stuff I can solo allows me to continue to play the MMO genre that I love until free time or vacation time comes up that allows me to play the group content stuff like dungeons and raids. Wife aggro much more dangerous than Big Boss aggro haha.
  • aSynchroaSynchro azeaze, AKPosts: 176Member Uncommon

    I hate solo scenarios, it's totaly against the whole idea of MMO. Try to do the new ones in WoW as a healer or as a tank...

    At least in GW2 you can group with friends, even for the personal story !

    IMHO it's even a regression from 5.1: during the shieldwall dailies you had special quest to move on with the story, and you had choice: solo or in group.

    So yeah, for me solo only scenario = 1 player game. If i wanted that, i would be playing Skyrim.
  • maplestonemaplestone Ottawa, ONPosts: 3,099Member

    Sunsong ranch has shown a different approach to housing - instead of the traditional MMO home that sucks in decorative content from across the game, the ranch is little private corner of infrastructure relevent the current continent.  I'm curious what Blizzard will do with the farm at the end of the expansion ... will they assume players are ok just abandoning the farms like any other zone, will they make it a permanent minigame with new tiers of crops or will they add a token farewell quest to provide a sense of closure? 

     

    I'm not a big fan of scripted-stories, but short solo story instances are prefered to cutscenes that take full control of my character. 

     

    The Troves of the Thunderking is an interesting challenge, although I have to admit I don't function well at all under time pressure.  I really like the basic key mechanic though - essentially a more-or-less weekly quest for a run at high-value content.  Although I prefer open-world resources in theory, there are definite advantages of hiding goodies and challenges behind a small instance.  A version of the farm/vault that was a private mine would probably go over well. 

     

    I was concerned about the effect of solo instances/phases on socialization and the sense of being in a populated world, however sunsong ranch turned out better than I expected for this because there was usually a comfortable fraction of the players milling about in the public market nearby. 

  • GravargGravarg Harker Heights, TXPosts: 3,332Member Uncommon
    Just gonna throw this out there, but In the Stage 4 scenario, you jump from back to back of flying dinosaurs.  This was actually really hard, especially for a warlock...since you don't get a pet lol.
  • Dreamo84Dreamo84 Niagara Falls, NYPosts: 3,437Member Uncommon
    It's so trendy to hate on WoW, that I don't even pay attention to any of the negative comments anymore. In fact thats true for most MMOs. The negativity is just so over the top, I just ignore it.

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  • OgreRaperOgreRaper Detroit, MIPosts: 376Member

    Great, let's make MMO's even more solo-centric, because my ideal MMO is the one where I never have to see or interact with another person ever.

     

  • TorvalTorval Oregon CountryPosts: 7,209Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    It's so trendy to hate on WoW, that I don't even pay attention to any of the negative comments anymore. In fact thats true for most MMOs. The negativity is just so over the top, I just ignore it.

    Yeah, it's kind of stupid how people constantly rag on the game.  I didn't play a long time (3 or 4 months), but I enjoyed myself while I was there.

    I don't plan on playing a sub-locked game again, but if I did it would likely be WoW.  I can't think of another subscription exclusive game that is this good.

  • Eir_SEir_S Argyle, NYPosts: 4,623Member
    Originally posted by augustgrace

    Honestly more solo end game content, is the only thing that would bring me back to WoW.  I like the world and lore, but the majority of the community is composed of a**hats and neckbeards.

    Blizzard is far more crafty than people give them credit for.  If solo content was causing games to fail as some are claiming, then Blizzard would never adopt it.  

    I can appreciate this post.

  • GreenHellGreenHell ludlow, MAPosts: 1,322Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    It's so trendy to hate on WoW, that I don't even pay attention to any of the negative comments anymore. In fact thats true for most MMOs. The negativity is just so over the top, I just ignore it.

    Yup, hating WoW is the thing to do on these forums. Sad really.

  • sethman75sethman75 the gongPosts: 212Member Uncommon

    FMD, i would imagine the people crying over this are the same ones that think you are forced to do dailies.

    Blizzard work off trends. They are constantly going over the stats of how and what people are doing in game.

    The fact that they are adding more solo content tells you there is a huge portion of the population that like to log on and progress on their terms without sitting the city for 30 mins and waiting for that tank to go for his 3rd bio run.

    Does it matter that the game is a world full of other players? NO!!!

    If you want to progress by yourself that's great. Nobody is forcing you to do it if you don't like it.

  • daltaniousdaltanious waPosts: 2,144Member Uncommon

    If any company want to make serious money, must appeal to broader audience. Sometimes this just can not work. But I think Blizzard did great work with Wow that has a lot of SOLO content and GROUP content.

    Again, MMO does not mean and should not mean FORCED group play. Oh, it can. They will just have much less players.

  • deniterdeniter LappeenrantaPosts: 805Member Uncommon
    Originally posted by GreenHell
    Originally posted by Fendel84M
    It's so trendy to hate on WoW, that I don't even pay attention to any of the negative comments anymore. In fact thats true for most MMOs. The negativity is just so over the top, I just ignore it.

    Yup, hating WoW is the thing to do on these forums. Sad really.

    There's a thin line between love and hate.

    In this case, it's the width of WotLK.

  • VolenibbletsVolenibblets London, LAPosts: 212Member Uncommon
    I think overall they need to avoid greasing the path when progressing. I find a consistent reason for friends leaving was the introduction of hand holds like instant instances queues, porting to the entrance and back out again lickity split. At first these features appear to add to the game but the lack of having to work for anything or accomplish anything makes any game rapidly routine and dull.
  • znaiikaznaiika denver, PAPosts: 203Member

    I love solo content, it let me choose when I whant to play, and also, I could chalange my self on different dificulties.

    Solo is good.

  • VorthanionVorthanion Laguna Vista, TXPosts: 2,119Member Uncommon
    I love it when developers finally get a clue and add more options for more playstyles.  These moaners and bitchers act as if there is little or no group content and that is a flat out lie.  As if 80% of each patch doesn't include or improve stuff for groups / socializing mechanisms.  I'm so tired of the self entitled behavior of these people who act as if everything should be done exactly the way they think it should.  Good for you Blizzard for having the cajones to do the right thing even if it causes a ruckus with the vocal minority.

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  • BadSpockBadSpock Somewhere, MIPosts: 7,974Member

    Trying to get my Shaman to 90, seems like there is SO much "new" content at the cap now when compared to old expansions.

    Before, it was always assumed once I leveled up to max I could grind dungeons for gear and rep and badges and buy my way up to being able to join Raid Finder.

    The progression was clear. Level, dungeons, heroics, raids - mix in dailies.

    Now, with Scenarios and Challenge Dungeons and all the dailies and farming etc. for the first time in 8+ years I really don't "know" World of Warcraft anymore.

    It's kind of cool.

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