ANd this is the same Mark that said many things for Warhammer and failed to deliver on almost all of it..
While I have no inside knowledge, I would lay about 95% of the blame at EA's feet. I know Mark would never say that, but anyone that has ever worked in corporate America knows EXACTLY what caused that. I mean, look at the SimCity fiasco.
I also tend to believe the same thing. there are those companies who cares about their customers that brings them the money to live, and there are those that cares about the money making period.
I think we all know where both parties mentionned stand :P
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC Thurka on WAR
ANd this is the same Mark that said many things for Warhammer and failed to deliver on almost all of it..
While I have no inside knowledge, I would lay about 95% of the blame at EA's feet. I know Mark would never say that, but anyone that has ever worked in corporate America knows EXACTLY what caused that. I mean, look at the SimCity fiasco.
I also tend to believe the same thing. there are those companies who cares about their customers that brings them the money to live, and there are those that cares about the money making period.
I think we all know where both parties mentionned stand :P
Some of the worst crafting mechanics ever ina ny MMO .. but listen to MJ .. And this is his baby .. according to him
ANd this is the same Mark that said many things for Warhammer and failed to deliver on almost all of it..
While I have no inside knowledge, I would lay about 95% of the blame at EA's feet. I know Mark would never say that, but anyone that has ever worked in corporate America knows EXACTLY what caused that. I mean, look at the SimCity fiasco.
I agree EA definitely takes the blame for what happened with WAR. The launch itself was rushed and bad as is, but then the complete gutting of Mythic and any of their devs worth anything shortly after just killed off any hope for WAR to ever reach its potential. I still play WAR pretty regularly because the PvP is still quite fun and very easy to find lots of action with the endless trials and people always being in Nordland 24/7, but it could have been so much more.
Originally posted by Goldmank Kind of bummed about that. Aside from having the best PVP system second-to-none, it was the expansive PVE content that made the DAOC experience so phenomenal.
They cant do it on the budget they have and the time frame they are trying to work with. Thats my guess why, Im sure they wish they had the time and the money to build a complete game.
The beauty of this model is that even on a smaller budget, they can make a very deep, dynamic rvr system because once the tools are there, players can provide the content. If this approach is done right, the design could be modular and dynamic enough to facilitate tons of player-driven gameplay we have never considered.
It's like the difference between giving people gardening tools and telling them to go crazy and showing them a garden and saying "go play, kids."
For me, I personally like the fact that their is no PvE aspect of the game, since most of the time, I find myself grinding through the games, just to make the max level. For me, that's when the fun comes in and have a more level playing field.
However, one thing I do like about PvE games, is being able to explore them. I wasn't a fan of WoW, but it did have some beautiful zones. In games like Skyrim, I try and refuse to use "quick-travel" options and scour the land.
I'm sure there will be plenty of beautiful zones in CU as well, but you'll constanly have to watch your back!
For me, I personally like the fact that their is no PvE aspect of the game, since most of the time, I find myself grinding through the games, just to make the max level. For me, that's when the fun comes in and have a more level playing field.
However, one thing I do like about PvE games, is being able to explore them. I wasn't a fan of WoW, but it did have some beautiful zones. In games like Skyrim, I try and refuse to use "quick-travel" options and scour the land.
I'm sure there will be plenty of beautiful zones in CU as well, but you'll constanly have to watch your back!
Indeed. It's been said there will be very little fast travel which will lend well to exploration
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself. ~Declaration of Arbroath
need to keep pansy players out. the more pve or crafting you have, the more players u get who complain about pansy things like dying in PvP or saying "oh the gfx isn't pretty enough".
let's get to the PKing fast.
Hey, keep us crafters out of your disparagement! Plenty of crafters here from Eve who are used to always being at risk of being ganked.
need to keep pansy players out. the more pve or crafting you have, the more players u get who complain about pansy things like dying in PvP or saying "oh the gfx isn't pretty enough".
let's get to the PKing fast.
Hey, keep us crafters out of your disparagement! Plenty of crafters here from Eve who are used to always being at risk of being ganked.
ah. heh sorry just being reactionary >< EvE is a credible game. maybe Cam Unch can be moddeled to have those epic qualities? (EvE in't my style of game but a lot of people like it so.. yea).
To me PVE is best used to get some skill pints on a new weapon before I go out to PVP. Having said that, if the game makes it easier to level / gain skill in PVE than PVP, I tend to take the path of least resistance. So in this case I would use PVE to level 75% of the time but then get my PVP fix with the remaining time. But these games tend to hold my interest for a far shorter time that one that is mainly PVP. And RVR is my favorite type of PVP.
need to keep pansy players out. the more pve or crafting you have, the more players u get who complain about pansy things like dying in PvP or saying "oh the gfx isn't pretty enough".
let's get to the PKing fast.
Hey, keep us crafters out of your disparagement! Plenty of crafters here from Eve who are used to always being at risk of being ganked.
In early DAoC this was a feature of the game, although the risk was never there not being a full loot pvp system, but there was a high risk of being ganked.
To get the top crafting materials you had to go out into the frontier to the crafting keeps which was the only place you could find the top tier materials on the top tier merchants.
Fun for a while, but ultimately it was removed.
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I also tend to believe the same thing. there are those companies who cares about their customers that brings them the money to live, and there are those that cares about the money making period.
I think we all know where both parties mentionned stand :P
Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC
Thurka on WAR
Some of the worst crafting mechanics ever ina ny MMO .. but listen to MJ .. And this is his baby .. according to him
I agree EA definitely takes the blame for what happened with WAR. The launch itself was rushed and bad as is, but then the complete gutting of Mythic and any of their devs worth anything shortly after just killed off any hope for WAR to ever reach its potential. I still play WAR pretty regularly because the PvP is still quite fun and very easy to find lots of action with the endless trials and people always being in Nordland 24/7, but it could have been so much more.
They cant do it on the budget they have and the time frame they are trying to work with. Thats my guess why, Im sure they wish they had the time and the money to build a complete game.
Agreed. But....
The beauty of this model is that even on a smaller budget, they can make a very deep, dynamic rvr system because once the tools are there, players can provide the content. If this approach is done right, the design could be modular and dynamic enough to facilitate tons of player-driven gameplay we have never considered.
It's like the difference between giving people gardening tools and telling them to go crazy and showing them a garden and saying "go play, kids."
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/PerfArt
For me, I personally like the fact that their is no PvE aspect of the game, since most of the time, I find myself grinding through the games, just to make the max level. For me, that's when the fun comes in and have a more level playing field.
However, one thing I do like about PvE games, is being able to explore them. I wasn't a fan of WoW, but it did have some beautiful zones. In games like Skyrim, I try and refuse to use "quick-travel" options and scour the land.
I'm sure there will be plenty of beautiful zones in CU as well, but you'll constanly have to watch your back!
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Indeed. It's been said there will be very little fast travel which will lend well to exploration
It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself. ~Declaration of Arbroath
Hey, keep us crafters out of your disparagement! Plenty of crafters here from Eve who are used to always being at risk of being ganked.
ah. heh sorry just being reactionary >< EvE is a credible game. maybe Cam Unch can be moddeled to have those epic qualities? (EvE in't my style of game but a lot of people like it so.. yea).
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In early DAoC this was a feature of the game, although the risk was never there not being a full loot pvp system, but there was a high risk of being ganked.
To get the top crafting materials you had to go out into the frontier to the crafting keeps which was the only place you could find the top tier materials on the top tier merchants.
Fun for a while, but ultimately it was removed.
Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy